General News Thread

[SeiKeo]

It's not just the south, my am just recently started allowing certain officers to be armed. More just the America thing.

[2Bad]

It is, however, extra bad in the South.

Like everything else.

[SeiKeo]

You keep saying this but you're not explaining why.

I get that their job is nominally to 'protect and serve'. I get that they should be expected to face significant risk in doing that job.

But in this situation - with someone approaching them, armed and ignoring demands - I'm not expecting them to bend over backwards to ensure the perp's safety. Not when he's the one putting them in danger to begin with.

Also, this has been bugging me for a bit: I know you're getting into the principle moreso now, but there's unequivocally no 'perp' here.

[Neir]

Uhm excuse me retired police doggos looking for homes are the sweetest things.

daily reminder that until very recently, virtually all military dogs were euthanized after serving one or two tours as 'excess equipment'

[2Bad]

http://thehill.com/homenews/administ...t-and-russians

So Manafort is going to have his balls on Mueller's mantle pretty soon.

[asterism42]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-41323272

Maria hits areas which barely dodged Irma

[2Bad]

Climate Change Isn't Real, Vote Republican, #MAGA

[asterism42]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-41327593

Also earthquakes

[I3uster]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ers_in_Germany

http://www.dw.com/en/police-in-germa...ink/a-38822484

tl;dr German police shooting people with knifes isn't a rare occurrence, nor is it considered wrong.

Actually talked with a military guy bout this (shoutouts to good friend Banquo), in essence American cops are still trained to use their gun as situation control tool and a way to create distance in contrast to military training where it's made quite clear you do not point a gun unless you want to kill someone. German cops on the other hand generally can employ other techniques (just going over that list look at how many of them got peppersprayed or were attempted to be subdued with other means first)

That seemed to be a good first place to start with but considering gun prevalence in the US idk if it's even viable to not just approach any situation with your gun out if you want your officers to feel secure. But their security means if they ever feel twitchy for whatever reason someone is going to die.

makes u think...about what might be the problem here...

that said what i also frequently hear of police unions in the US especially in the south does seem to kind of support ACAB

[Marmadillo]

makes u think...about what might be the problem here...

citizens have a right to defend themselves from the police

[SeiKeo]

unions for government workers are toxic and prevent accountability as well as creating an unhealthy feedback loop that's what I'm saying man!!!

[I3uster]

wait what

[asterism42]

Catalonia: "We want independence vote"
Rest of Spain: "No"
C: "FUCK YOU WE'RE DOING IT ANYWAY"
S: "Try it, bitch"

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abridged version

[Snow]

https://euobserver.com/institutional/138832

Month late for this party but, I really love how in these post Brexit times the first idea the Grand Barons of the Union put on the table is to alienate even more of their membership.

[I3uster]

Catalonia: "We want independence vote"
Rest of Spain: "No"
C: "FUCK YOU WE'RE DOING IT ANYWAY"
S: "Try it, bitch"

- - - Updated - - -

abridged version

I read about the tensions but it seems a bit weird to escalate that to immediate deployment of their gendarmerie/military police/whatever the fuck you wanna call the guardia civil.

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State of exception now in effect apparently.

[aldeayeah]

Not really. This follows a repeated failure to comply with judicial mandate on the secessionist camp.

Regardless of any sympathy one may have with their position, there's little question that they are operating against the law.

[I3uster]

Did they want to provoke that result considering their referendum was apparently losing steam after the terror attacks?

It's just such bad optics when Catalonian independence isn't exactly a minority opinion in the first place

[Polly]

https://euobserver.com/institutional/138832

Month late for this party but, I really love how in these post Brexit times the first idea the Grand Barons of the Union put on the table is to alienate even more of their membership.

Macron does whats best for big Euro capital, unfortunately I'm not at all surprised :/

[Five_X]

Did they want to provoke that result considering their referendum was apparently losing steam after the terror attacks?

It's just such bad optics when Catalonian independence isn't exactly a minority opinion in the first place

"How do we stop this secessionist movement, the Catalans are mad!"

"Well, we could allow a referendum on independence, create an open dialogue like Scotland in the UK, emphasize the economic difficulties inherent in secession, get pressure from the rest of the EU, build nation-wide interest in internal reform, and appeal to sentiment - all tactics that helped degrade popular support for Scottish independence."

"Nonsense, GUARDIA CIVIL, ENGAGE!"

[Polly]

That worked really well with the Irish