General News Thread

[AsGryffynn]

Sometimes I wonder.

Strictly speaking, it's rule of the people, but the people, when uninformed, can make choices that allow democracy to mutate into a form of mob rule, which is why I am not all happy with the whole progressive schtick many people have. Just saying a "but" is a good way to get lynched, even if your grievances are completely logical with no political bias.

We just had a series of Women's Marches here in Spain protesting a political party that wants to "de-gender" the violence laws, as we're the only country were men and women get different sentences for identical offenses. The Constitutional Tribunal has decided this somehow doesn't violate the constitution's primeval protection for equality since men and women are not equal.

And not a single soul has bothered doing an alternate approach of this: toughening the nominal laws so both end up being treated equally, mostly because the parties are too busy fighting for votes from MGTOWS/incels and left wing caucuses are essentially in the pocket of feminist organizations that essentially raid the public funds to fuel radical feminism/feminazis and misandry.

Essentially, people don't want to concede a single word because they believe our world runs in black and white morality, even though we all know there couldn't be a bigger farce to date.

Sorry for the gender war rubbish, but it's the only example I have off the top of my head about the insane belief that A being right puts B in the wrong spot even though it's very reasonable to take both answers as truthful, albeit referring to different situations.

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Trump is bad enough as is, would you really want him as a king?!

Bloody murder, no! I supported him so Hillary would get the message and pursue her true calling as activist, not because we genuinely liked everything he said (though we all know it's very hard to go wrong with tax cuts, so he had that going for himself).

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Nah. Might be time to start thinking about removing the human element from governance.

Maybe if our rulers were chosen by their capabilities and not in a rigged, bribe centered popularity contest, we would have good leaders. Sadly, an actual meritocracy would be impossible unless we had geniuses reviewing the "governance scores" of politicians and reviewing their job applications to determine the best choice for king, director, president, prime minister, premier or another head of state.

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tfw no Empress Washington XIII, by the Grace of God, Empress of America, Grand Duchess of Puerto Rico, Princess-Regent of Guam, Defender of the West

Puerto Rico Espanol!

[Mcjon01]

We need a fourth branch of government that’s just Marie Kondo throwing out everything from the other three branches that doesn’t spark joy

[SpoonyViking]

When the survival of the Tribe hinges on always getting exactly what one asks for, compromise, and even coexistence, with another Tribe that has different goals becomes impossible.

Hmmm... It's almost like the erasure of other tribes is an intrinsic ideology of some of them.

[SeiKeo]

Makes you think

[Tobias]

In the words of kif


no it doesnt

[SpoonyViking]

"kif"?

[Trubo]

[Five_X]

Hmmm... It's almost like some the erasure of other tribes is an intrinsic ideology of some of them.

God damned Reds.

[Tobias]

Trumps personal lawyer: well, trump didn’t collude, but maybe his campaign did

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what a world, what a world, what a place, what a place...


arent you glad you’re a member of the human race?

[AsGryffynn]

Trumps personal lawyer: well, trump didn’t collude, but maybe his campaign did

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what a world, what a world, what a place, what a place...


arent you glad you’re a member of the human race?

To be honest, this would be in line with everything I've come to expect from politicians. The guy didn't, but everyone he paid to do the dirty work for him did. Why? they guy pays them a lot, but they can always get more money on the side because, you know, reasons...

Where's an enlightened tyrant when you need one.

[Trubo]

Who needs enemies when you have "friends" like these?

[Alternative Ice]

You forgot the 'he did collude but collusion isn't a crime'.

[Twelveseal]

This is more-or-less just what happens when you're in it neck deep and are used to making problems go away by throwing money at it without having any idea how to actually dig yourself out. Trump's primary experience with the law seems to be the act of getting sued for below-board business practices. Considering he tends to settle those cases out of court, this situation where he actually needs to prove his innocence instead of just paying people off is leading to some floundering. It doesn't help matters that he seems to think that fame and wealth correlate directly with actual ability. It's like he's becoming a case study in the Dunning-Kruger Effect. Then again, maybe he just realizes that this situation is harder to sweep under the rug than Iran-Contra and is fine with playing a delaying game or the "Affluenza Card."

[Deathhappens]

And thus we're right back where we started: Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the other ones.

[Snow]

Much like the arithmetic mean is so widely used for grading not because it's perfect for the job or even an accurate descriptor but because it rests on an inherent trust society has towards numbers and the comfort of their 'objectivity', democracy in an ideal form of one vote for one person and all votes having the same value is just practical that way. I'm optimistic that as societies progress, certain aspects and functions of it will get further refined and fine tuned and case-dependent in its implementation, but barring some world and society altering cataclysm that change will most likely sit on a democratic butt, it's just what we've evolved to find practicality and comfort in.

[Dullahan]

maybe if contemporary first world governments weren't massive biopolitical regimes of exception with command of a tech-driven panopticon and war machines worth tens, hundreds of billions of dollars, the outcomes of elections wouldn't be such a life-or-death scenario for people

[SeiKeo]

maybe if contemporary first world governments weren't massive biopolitical regimes of exception with command of a tech-driven panopticon and war machines worth tens, hundreds of billions of dollars, the outcomes of elections wouldn't be such a life-or-death scenario for people

begome libertarian

[I3uster]

is that become or be gone

[Twelveseal]

Regardless, bemoaning the fact that modern society isn't already any given person's ideal vision of utopia doesn't change the way it functions (or doesn't), how it came to be and why, or what tribes benefit from it the most and which are in the massive camp of "losers." And no, I don't mean that as an insult. What it does offer is a chance to shape the direction society moves in, so long as one can be sufficiently persuasive in expressing their views.

So then, of we're stuck with the status quo for now, what should we be working towards instead?

[Dullahan]

there's literally nothing you can do lol