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    Quote Originally Posted by RoydGolden View Post
    Couldn't the opposite be true in some cases though?

    Turning off the lights when you leave a room gets you thinking of yourself as the kind of person who cares for the environment, which might lead you to support other (hopefully more truly effective) environmental causes to validate that self-image. Kind of like those psyche studies where people paid to put up a sign supporting some cause in front of their house were more likely to sincerely support (or at least sympathize with) said cause later on.
    https://www.researchgate.net/publica...al_Campaigning

    Short answer is it’s complicated but at best the effect seems to be minor and mostly found in people who already identify as caring about the environment anyway

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeiKeo View Post
    I want a revenue-neutral carbon tax offset against payroll tax, and for China to do its own thing
    What would stop enterprises from offloading their carbon-intensive activities to countries that don't implement such measures?
    Last edited by aldeayeah; October 11th, 2018 at 02:47 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aldeayeah View Post
    What would stop enterprises from offloading their carbon-intensive activities to countries that don't implement such measures?
    That’s okay, inevitable, and unlikely, since you’d level the carbon tax on fuel and power, which for obvious reasons really have to stay onsite.

    anyway climate/acc
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    Maybe the idea of of international climate regulations being neocolonial is itself neocolonial because it assumes the pressure would come entirely from the outside and developing countries don't have their own motions for change and environmental activism.

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    Search me, I can even quote myself that China and by extent the rest of the world can take what action they want - in all likelyhood that’ll be air and water first, because those are proximate local issues like almost all successful enviromental action so far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeiKeo View Post
    That’s okay, inevitable, and unlikely, since you’d level the carbon tax on fuel and power, which for obvious reasons really have to stay onsite.
    How is it OK? Production in the taxing countries is going to be less efficient/competitive. The decrease of fuel demand in the taxing countries will lower fuel prices, which in turn will make the non-taxing countries even more competitive.

    Assuming a free international market, there's a strong incentive for countries to be the last ones to implement that sort of measure.

    That's why I find it hard to see a solution that doesn't involve international regulations and/or protectionism.
    As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero.

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    Well, Australia just said they don't give a shite. We'll all go down under I guess...
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    Quote Originally Posted by aldeayeah View Post
    How is it OK? Production in the taxing countries is going to be less efficient/competitive. The decrease of fuel demand in the taxing countries will lower fuel prices, which in turn will make the non-taxing countries even more competitive.

    Assuming a free international market, there's a strong incentive for countries to be the last ones to implement that sort of measure.

    That's why I find it hard to see a solution that doesn't involve international regulations and/or protectionism.
    That’s one of the reasons why you offset it against the payroll tax; ideally you make labor less expensive in the same gross proportion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dullahan View Post


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    that's horrific, I want it

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    I hoped they wouldn't feature because not once have I liked Fate's take on ANCIENT ALIENS. It's stupid for beings from humanity's myth and history to be the result of ANCIENT ALIENS all along, even insulting to an extent. Velbers are bad, Alien Trees are bad, Foreigners are bad, stick with humans relating to humans please Nasu.
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    The big screw up was shifting the framing from global warming to climate change. Global warming was on the precipice of taking us really far but you all were too good for it.

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    the absolute madman

    and yes, this is news, because it will happen sooner or later
    Quote Originally Posted by Rafflesiac View Post
    I hoped they wouldn't feature because not once have I liked Fate's take on ANCIENT ALIENS. It's stupid for beings from humanity's myth and history to be the result of ANCIENT ALIENS all along, even insulting to an extent. Velbers are bad, Alien Trees are bad, Foreigners are bad, stick with humans relating to humans please Nasu.
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    Modern growth in both population and in turn industry is unsustainable. There will be either a collapse or at least major conflicts and huge decrease in the standard of living sooner or later. And that's developed countries, have fun Africa, Greece and South Italy.
    I told them fifteen years ago to build a Dyson sphere already.

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    Right, let's all move to Mars before that happen
    In Elon we trust
    Quote Originally Posted by Rafflesiac View Post
    I hoped they wouldn't feature because not once have I liked Fate's take on ANCIENT ALIENS. It's stupid for beings from humanity's myth and history to be the result of ANCIENT ALIENS all along, even insulting to an extent. Velbers are bad, Alien Trees are bad, Foreigners are bad, stick with humans relating to humans please Nasu.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmadillo View Post
    Modern growth in both population and in turn industry is unsustainable. There will be either a collapse or at least major conflicts and huge decrease in the standard of living sooner or later. And that's developed countries, have fun Africa, Greece and South Italy.
    I told them fifteen years ago to build a Dyson sphere already.
    Modern growth in population has been net leveling off for decades now
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    Quote Originally Posted by 34 View Post


    the absolute madman

    and yes, this is news, because it will happen sooner or later
    There's got to be a healthier way to process getting kicked off the Tesla board of directors than plotting robot revenge against the SEC

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    Leveling off is the most optimistic prognosis and no less than 30-40 years in the future. By then there will be several more billion people.
    Unless a collapse comes sooner in which case we will have a type of population decrease that has been somewhat common in history.

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    Overpopulation is not the problem; it is overconsumption

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rafflesiac View Post
    I hoped they wouldn't feature because not once have I liked Fate's take on ANCIENT ALIENS. It's stupid for beings from humanity's myth and history to be the result of ANCIENT ALIENS all along, even insulting to an extent. Velbers are bad, Alien Trees are bad, Foreigners are bad, stick with humans relating to humans please Nasu.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheSeaDragon View Post
    Nasu was always a pen name. It was Georgio Tsoukalos all along

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    Population growth is a problem, because one of the main issues of global warming is that it is expected to decrease available resources. Yes, parts of population will die off to sustainable levels or learn to live with less, but that's one of those things we'd rather do without.

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