New Mods: Yea or Nay

[Kat]

You can have some overall mods and a lot of subforum mods who only have mod privileges in their specific area

So, mods -> super/global mods -> admins hierarchy as in some sites?

[I3uster]

but why

whats the advantage of that over having more supermods

[Ace]

if you define active as people on more then once a day, that's like, 4-5 of us all together. Including all admins and mods. We have more active forums then that, and and again, since we aren't all on at the same time. That raises the specter of having shit going on that the only person on has to wash his hands of because it's not his bailiwick.

I don't think anyone is suggesting real life level bureaucracy here. Subforum mods would pay the most attention to their particular subforum but they can do mod stuff in other subs if they feel the need.

[Strife ❤️]

Who wants to sign up to be mod of fanclubs?

[Tobias]

I don't think anyone is suggesting real life level bureaucracy here. Subforum mods would pay the most attention to their particular subforum but they can do mod stuff in other subs if they feel the need.

Then what's the difference between that and standard mods

[Paitouch]

Nah, just change usernames of other mods to pronouns.

You, Me, Him, and Her are mods. Oh but She's a mod too and so is He.

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I nominate Paitouch because some small part of me thinks it would be a little amusing to see him spontaneously combust when his physiology comes into contact with responsibility.

I've been in mod positions before and every time without fail I go on power trips until I'm demodded and shamed off the forum. It's not a pretty sight.

[Cruor]

I'm just gonna put my two cents in that I voted two, and I think those two ought to be Siriel and You. Megas (I refuse to get into this joke now) and Raff would be alright as well. I'd also even go for I3 to watch him mature into the beautiful butterfly he ought to rather than the rebellious pillar he tries to be.

You said no in the thread ;_; (and again, I'd rather that content people such as You, Mew, etc. aren't chosen as then they won't well be bringing content as much).

Raff and Megas perhaps. But I think they might be like me and are looked at as the silly guys.

Long bans instead of permas: not a chance.

subforum mods: actually a not bad sounding idea, we actually considered it ourselves, but we ultimately decided against it because certain forums are so much more active then others, and also because if you do it that way, and there is only one mod online (which happens a lot) do you really want to have to be in a situation where you PM at he only guy around, and he has to tell you his hands are tied because it's his forum?

was there anything else?

The idea was that they'd really only have to watch their designated board seriously but they could of course go to the other boards. Again, you can't really force volunteers to do something. I mean, a problem you (or it was Seika/Mac) mentioned was that people don't report and mods are left to figure out what's going on on their own if something happens. In a case like this a designated mod (or mods) of that board could at least provide better insight (well this is just theoretically, because I mean, if Lyco got in an argument with a bunch of people you already know what happened) or were at least paying more attention than someone who's expected to browse the dozens of boards by themselves.

And heck, just because its their designated board doesn't mean they need to spend all their time there :P I mean, if no one really reports as you say than you guys probably hear or see what's going on through the massive amount of activity attracted in a place.

Also its not like people can't be moderators of multiple boards or something.

You's extension idea was that if you have a problem with someone you just go to the designated mod instead of kicking up the largest fuss ever.



And then I tossed the ideas that its perhaps less of a headache to just let the users do their thing.

Really, it depends on what the mod team wants to do to choose how many we want.

[Seika]

I don't think anyone is suggesting real life level bureaucracy here. Subforum mods would pay the most attention to their particular subforum but they can do mod stuff in other subs if they feel the need.

Which sort of comes back around to the question of why make them specifically subforum mods at all?

So far, the only item about lesser mods that I've found convincing is the desire for a face and an immediately obvious point of contact if you're having trouble in a specific forum. Which is a very fair point in itself, but not, I think, worth the possible confusion about mods' responsibilities. Instead, we would rather underline that any and all mods are available for you to PM if you want to talk about a forum matter, as well as the Report button being at your disposal.

[Cruor]

I've been in mod positions before and every time without fail I go on power trips until I'm demodded and shamed off the forum. It's not a pretty sight.

Weren't you a mod on jcafe for years doing (as you claim) nothing until you finally requested demodding cause you were afraid glorious Cruor might find out your other usename?

[Ace]

Then what's the difference between that and standard mods

Reducing the need for mods to feel like they have to be everywhere. I think that would help relieve some of the stress of the mods but you and the others would know better than I if it'd actually be less pressure for you all.

[Paitouch]

Weren't you a mod on jcafe for years doing (as you claim) nothing until you finally requested demodding cause you were afraid glorious Cruor might find out your other usename?

I try hard to tolerate you.

[Tobias]

Reducing the need for mods to feel like they have to be everywhere. I think that would help relieve some of the stress of the mods but you and the others would know better than I if it'd actually be less pressure for you all.

Seems like way more effort then it's worth, if I am being honest.

[Ace]

Well it'd be more helpful for the inactive mods and/or admins we don't usually see around, I think.

[Cruor]

I try hard to tolerate you.

And you are a saint for it.

[Megas]

The only major benefit to subforum mods would be that you're guaranteed a mod who probably spends enough time in that subforum to understand the context of situations occurring within it.

Them being normal outside of their subforms might lessen the perceived divide between user and mod as well

[Cruor]

The only major benefit to subforum mods would be that you're guaranteed a mod who probably spends enough time in that subforum to understand the context of situations occurring within it.

Eh, but here's the thing. In reality most people already have a good idea of who hates who or the context of things. Board specific mods give people who are fighting a guy to talk to rather than pming the whole admin and mod team. Is You's argument.

[Megas]

Yeah, but couldn't that be solved by just making a lot more mods?

[Arashi_Leonhart]

In reality most people already have a good idea of who hates who or the context of things.

If I were a mod called into the RP section, I would ban everyone because I have no idea what the hell goes on in there.

[Cruor]

If I were a mod called into the RP section, I would ban everyone because I have no idea what the hell goes on in there.

No one does. But yeah I don't go there as well lololol.

[Mcjon01]

Eh, but here's the thing. In reality most people already have a good idea of who hates who or the context of things. Board specific mods give people who are fighting a guy to talk to rather than pming the whole admin and mod team. Is You's argument.

This is the real reason I could never be a mod, here or anywhere. Don't get the interpersonal relationships at all; all you other guys just look like a big blurry cloud of irony to me.