Nasuverse eschatology discussion [SPOILERS]

[Dullahan]

I agree, which is why I propose we stop using roman names entirely. From now on, everyone should just read 遠坂凛 or 蒼崎青子 and be done with it.

agreed

let this be the end of the Capslock-kun nickname

[Tobias]

NEVER

[RoydGolden]

I agree, which is why I propose we stop using roman names entirely. From now on, everyone should just read 遠坂凛 or 蒼崎青子 and be done with it.

Because 遠坂凛 is what Arthur is most known by around the world, clearly.

[Dullahan]

you have no chance to survive make your time

[Arashi_Leonhart]

Because 遠坂凛 is what Arthur is most known by around the world, clearly.

Dude, I'm agreeing with you. But that also means that secondaries need to stop with the Tohsaka Rin sort of shit. Read and write it how it should be without that stupid romanization.

[Tobias]

That what shit?

[Arashi_Leonhart]

That Tohsaka Rin shit. 遠坂凛 is how we should be reading and writing it. All the time. Get to practicing your stroke order, you filthy gaijin.

[Mcjon01]

That what shit?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romanization
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romanization_(cultural)

This is the joke.

[Tobias]

In that case, I applaud arashi's apparantly sincere and honest attempt(s) to make jokes less funny then any I have ever told.

good attempt arashi, keep practicing, you are already showing real progress!

[Rafflesiac]

In that case, I applaud arashi's apparantly sincere and honest attempt(s) to make jokes less funny then any I have ever told.

pffffffffftbhaahahahahahahahahhaahhahahahahahahaha hahahaahahahah

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Wait.

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Were you... serious?

[Arashi_Leonhart]

You're the filthy gaijin, you're not supposed to get it.

[Rafflesiac]

This is the part where I'm supposed to laugh even harder now, right?

[Tobias]

Wait.

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Were you... serious?

i so rarely get to respond this way, but...yeah, I suppose I was, since you ask

[aldeayeah]

agreed

let this be the end of the Capslock-kun nickname

カタカナくん

[RoydGolden]

Dude, I'm agreeing with you. But that also means that secondaries need to stop with the Tohsaka Rin sort of shit. Read and write it how it should be without that stupid romanization.

I was being sarcastic.

[You]

I was being sarcastic.

inno it just looked to me as if you though Arthur was Rin.

[RoydGolden]

I didn't know what the Japanese meant so I just assumed 遠坂凛 meant Arthur rather than Rin. That's what I get for being a filthy gaijin, I guess.

[You]

hint hint, next time just google it.
There will be a big picture telling who the person is.

[Kotonoha]

Then again Nasu himself can do some pretty weird things too, like with how he apparently decided the word assassin was derived from "Hassan" rather than the much more obvious "Hashashin".

He didn't do that.

as opposed to just the actual name that she's known by all over the world

You are vastly underestimating how often historical/mythological figures' names change in different languages.

[Leftovers]

let's throw some speculation into this

The Aylesbury Ritual could be that one same idea that according to Arc "someone had already tried a long time ago" and that Dust of Osiris was trying to pull off: a Reality Marble-Outer World permanent switcheroo (effectively rewriting the rules of the world).

If that were the case, what Reality Marble was intended to be switched (i.e., what did the involved DAAs want), and what ended up being switched (i.e., why did the world die)?

By participating in

Aylesbury

this ritual

that his

Crimson Moon

master

established,

Gransurg

he

is finally able to kill

Merem

the Ancestor

without holding back.

Aylesbury

this ritual

that his

Crimson Moon

master

established

Crimson Moon established the Aylesbury ritual

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And what did Brunestud want?

The planet wondered if it was okay for its children to be eaten.
The planet didn't know. The king of the moon protected the planet, not because it was adorable.
He wanted a beautiful world to replace his country, which had lost everything.

So one guess is, while the seed of the True Ancestors is the mechanism that will circumvent the counter forces and facilitate his revival, the Aylesbury ritual may be the means by which Crimson Moon can take over the planet. Ortenrosse's misunderstanding is probably that the ritual will establish vampire supremacy of some kind, but if it's actually related to Crimson Moon it explains why Gransurg supports it will at least take action in Trhvmn's misconstrued attempt that may yet succeed, given that he acts only in the name and interests of his master. The premature execution of the ritual depleting the planet's mana - the breath of the planet; in other words it affected the planet itself - would probably be either a part or a critical failure in some step of the process of Crimson Moon's intentions for Earth.

But then how was it "tried" before, for the Dark Six to be currently "regenerating"? The biggest thing that CM did is drop the moon and that doesn't really fit the ritual part, or the allusion of the Dark Six as an entity, and moon drop is a pretty definite act to be related to the Sixth, if the Sixth is to be related to the Dark Six in the first place. On the other hand, moon drop fits with the "summoned to bring forth the end" line, but what CM really wanted to attack was "the concept of the world" (or of humanity as prime ones of the world???), which doesn't really jive with dropping a moon on the Earth unless one thinks of Zelretch shooting it down as an expression of 'Magic=Humanity tueee'. Which is wrong, magic stands outside of humanity. Seems like this is where his "world-corrosive will" is relevant.

I guess that if depleting all the mana and ???probably eventually killing the planet??? is thought of as turning it into a world just like the Moon, or at least turning the Earth into CM's world is the idea and depleting the mana is the ritual going wrong, then the ritual is pretty straightforward in its goal to create a new kingdom (the「REAL OF THE WORLD」?) for CM to replace his home which "had lost everything" (presumably that could be another hint that a dead planet is not the desired result of Aylesbury, why would you replace your old dead world with a new dead world [unless ofc there being no mana anymore is not indicative of the planet's condition and doesn't really matter - why is a pole shift occuring related to that anyway???]).

(then there's another thought that the Q&A just said the mana depletion was a result of the ritual which was expected in the 21st century happening in the 1970s, which is not explicitly indicating that the premature execution was of an incomplete ritual would produce different results from one that is performed on time, but the status of the Dark Six as "still regenerating" does allow that inference)

Generally though I think that if Aylesbury Valesti was indeed set up by Crimson Moon then it has to do with allowing him to "take" the planet, whether by planet texture switching, world pillar unpinning, undermining human order, regenerating a system (what the "first and highest system" might be which has already been "tried" - presumably to be enforced, if not in the exact same way - is an interesting question; it might be worth theorising if some newly introduced fundamental TM concepts fit the idea) with the mana from the other side of the world, returning the planet to how it was before/the AoG/CM's alien image of a

real

"perfect"

world, or any other WMG theory.