Ancient Literature Discussion (History, Myth, Philosophy &c.)

[RoydGolden]

...Honestly, I'd recommend throwing the book away.

My mom loves it, so I'm definitely going to read it through to the end. I'll certainly be taking some stuff with a grain of salt though.

[RoydGolden]

Well, I dropped The Pagan Christ. Got way too repetitive and boring, not to mention the endless fawning over Kuhn and Massey...

[Five_X]

Kuhn-kun daisuki

[Daneel Rush]

Anyone more familiar with Inanna/Ishtar or Meso-Sumerian myth know where the name Maanna comes from for Ishtarin's boat of heaven?

Maanna literally means "Boat of Heaven".

Daneel, return to us from KanColle hell

I'm no longer playing KanColle. Waifus can only help me tolerate utter lack of actual gameplay for so long. My attention is currently divided between F/GO, the two D&D campaigns I DM, developing a d6-based ruleset for my next campaign, and Divinity Original Sin 2. And getting a permanent job, of course.

Also, I had no idea this thread existed. How cool.

[SpoonyViking]

[...] developing a d6-based ruleset for my next campaign, [...]

Interesting! Original, or based off a pre-existing system, like WEG's D6 System?

[Arashi_Leonhart]

Maanna literally means "Boat of Heaven".

Maybe I should've worded that differently, I mean, where it is actually called Maanna/boat of heaven, because sources I've got don't actually reference her boat by any kind of name--its later in the story and I guess they've already talked about the boat so it'll just say that she sails or whatever, already having introduced the boat.

This is what you get when reading university anthologies. Piecemeal myth.

[Daneel Rush]

Maybe I should've worded that differently, I mean, where it is actually called Maanna/boat of heaven, because sources I've got don't actually reference her boat by any kind of name--its later in the story and I guess they've already talked about the boat so it'll just say that she sails or whatever, already having introduced the boat.

This is what you get when reading university anthologies. Piecemeal myth.

Ah, sorry if I sounded condescending. The source is "Inanna and Enki", Segment F, lines 7-8:

kug ^dinana me mu-un-ur₄-ur₄ ma₂an-na bi₂-in-u₅
ma₂ an-na kar-ra zag bi₂-in-tag

"But radiant Inanna has collected the powers and embarked onto the boat of Heaven.
The boat of Heaven has already left the quay."

There are over thirty more references to Maanna in the same story, referring to the heavenly boat Inanna used to escape from Enki after getting him drunk enough to give her the powers. It is implied she stole it as well.

[Arashi_Leonhart]

Thanks

[Seika]

kug ^dinana me mu-un-ur₄-ur₄ ma₂ an-na bi₂-in-u₅
ma₂ an-na kar-ra zag bi₂-in-tag

Inana and Enki, F 7-8


E: Die in a hole.

[Arashi_Leonhart]

Thank you slightly less

[Daneel Rush]

I got dissed by Seika.

I am easy to amuse, so let it be known that this is my finest moment in BL. Nothing I post in Create-a-Servant will top this.

[asterism42]

That's actually pretty cool. I like it when they do the research for Servants.

[Seika]

(I did actually check if you'd answered before I went to get a translation, saw you had, and then decided posting this was funnier).

[Arashi_Leonhart]

That's actually pretty cool. I like it when they do the research for Servants.

Oh, they talk about how it takes them a month of research for a Servant.

Its just easy to ignore that once boobs and memes take over.

[Daneel Rush]

@Seika: That only makes me happier.

I must admit I was amused by the sight of Ishtar!Rin driving Maanna, even if I was first a little peeved at the concept of Isthar!Rin. In my mind, the ideal characterization of the goddess Inanna/Ishtar is one that frightens me. As a simple, ordinary human being, Inanna should terrify me. A mortal character interacting with Inanna should feel like the slightest slip would render his life over. Inanna is supposed to be power incarnate. Ishtar!Rin is cute and funny and all that, but she 's not my Inanna. #notmyInanna.

[Arashi_Leonhart]

She's more unsettling in the race event where they get rid of most of Rin's charm and make her far more conniving and selfish.

And then Rin comes back when it all goes to shit for her.

[You]

see strange fake for scary ishtar

[LegalLoliLover]

Oh, Mab and Medb are 2 different people. My bad.

[RoydGolden]

Oh, Mab and Medb are 2 different people. My bad.

Wasn't Mab a fairy?

[LegalLoliLover]

"Go down, Amakusa
Way down in Edo land
Tell old Tokugawa
Let my people go"

That didn't work out so hot, right?