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    And look how that turned out for them.

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    I've studied Rome, trust me, the empire fell because they held no love for the tiddy.

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    More seriously, though, you can broadly glean a period's sexual-aesthetic preference through their art. With grains of salt, of course, considering that sculptures were made to an ideal, not necessarily a reality, but no doubt there's some amount of realism in Imperial/post-Hellenistic classical figures.

    https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/254697

    Here you go, the Western female physical ideal for the better part of 3000 years. I'm sorry to say that most Romans probably weren't lolicons.
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    No, I wouldn't go that far. Just breasts on the smaller side, combined with plucking out pubic hair and the like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Five_X View Post
    Here you go, the Western female physical ideal for the better part of 3000 years. I'm sorry to say that most Romans probably weren't lolicons.
    i think it's still a physical ideal

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    As expected of a Christian, but between his historical and fictitious portrayals, Amakusa is very much like several Bible heroes.
    1. Heard the voice of God to deliver people from oppression (Moses).
    2. In most fictitious portrayals, rises from his own death (Jesus).
    3. In Makai Tenshou derivatives, plagues the mainstream government in the attempt to achieve #1 (Moses).
    4. In Fate/apocrypha, wanders a desert for decades (Moses).
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    I wish there was more if any English translated sources of Amakusa because some of the Wikipedia stuff is unsourced

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    Everyone knows that Medb copulated with 7 men at night, but is it true that, after the events of the Crucible, Abby lived the rest of her days as a prostitute?
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    I don't believe that Grendel was a shapeshifter in the original story, so is there any consensus about what he actually looks like? Every version that I know is different from wolf, troll, zombie, and evil Groot.
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    There's no consensus.
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    I remember the Gaiman scripted Beowulf movie

    I haven’t read the poem in years in its entirety, is there no concrete traits on what he looks like?

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    A few, but they are generic monstrous traits: bigger than a man, claws and scales, possibly a "warped" shape in some form if we take some poetic phrases too literally. I've seen scholars argue that he could be a troll,* a draugr, or even a dragon.

    * It doesn't help that the Norse concept of "troll" covered basically any monster, ever.
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    A man in a suit

    Beowulf defeating the first furry

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    Truly a feat worthy of being called a hero

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arashi_Leonhart View Post
    A man in a suit

    Beowulf defeating the first furry
    See, that's a good joke, but it's also been proposed the Grendel character might have been "just" a berserker before being demonised into one of Cain's monstrous descendants.
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    It's also proposed that it's just a representation of negative consequences that should not be followed in the culture where Beowulf's story was created and is just a walking Incest Bad depiction

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpoonyViking View Post
    A few, but they are generic monstrous traits: bigger than a man, claws and scales, possibly a "warped" shape in some form if we take some poetic phrases too literally. I've seen scholars argue that he could be a troll,* a draugr, or even a dragon.

    * It doesn't help that the Norse concept of "troll" covered basically any monster, ever.
    I get the other descriptions, but are dragons generally much bigger than your average troll, draugr, werewolf, or Groot creature (all of which are bigger than normal humans)?
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    Eh, "troll" being a catch-all term for all sorts of monstrous beings, they could come in many different sizes, and some draugr had the power to grow. It's not that far-fetched, especially with Grendel actually being huge.

    Quote Originally Posted by Arashi_Leonhart View Post
    It's also proposed that it's just a representation of negative consequences that should not be followed in the culture where Beowulf's story was created and is just a walking Incest Bad depiction
    Well, no duh.
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    He Was a Good King (a Fate/Stay Night one-shot) - A short exploration of Beowulf's character as a hero and a king.

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    Do we have any historical accounts of Semiramis actually poisoning anyone? The sources I've seen on the interwebs don't make any mention of her killing Ninus with poison.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nuclear Consensus View Post
    Do we have any historical accounts of Semiramis actually poisoning anyone? The sources I've seen on the interwebs don't make any mention of her killing Ninus with poison.
    No, not really.
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