The confessional box

[Kotonoha]

yeah... some reason....

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could you not have chosen a picture where she had something resembling human anatomy

[UnlimitedBladeWorks]

I used to not like Shinji.

[Break]

could you not have chosen a picture where she had something resembling human anatomy

No, because its Rider.

Also it would've ruined the joke had i chosen a pic that didnt focus 100% on her ridiculous "qualities" and lack of a spine.

[Kotonoha]

That's Shinji's charm, you hate him at first and then suddenly you realize you like him.

[Kirby]

Oh, yeah, I also used to really like coke's KnK translation

I dunno if I still like it, though, seeing as how I haven't looked at them in a while

[UnlimitedBladeWorks]

Oh and I used to not like Tohno Shiki as well.

[Break]

That's Shinji's charm, you hate him at first and then suddenly you realize you like him.

That point precisely beeing his first scene in HA.

[I3uster]

Oh, yeah, I also used to really like coke's KnK translation

I dunno if I still like it, though, seeing as how I haven't looked at them in a while

It's nicely readable urban fantasy with lots of pretentious babble to break up the plot so I see no reason why you would have to be super ashamed of liking that translation.

shame about that adherence to the text of the original tho

[Hawkeye]

I used to think that Shirou and Co. were like 15 while still knowing it was a H-Game of sorts. Error on my part and which 'Year 2' they were in.

[I3uster]

Imo you guys should focus less about characters you liked before and now don't like if you can't at least write a sentence or two regarding that.

Opinions change, that's natural, but it's not interesting when you don't tell us what made you change your opinion or assumptions.

[Cruor]

To put things in perspective, I used to argue with Baiken a lot (well, "a lot" from my POV; he was much more active than me) back when we didn't really know what we were talking about. He had a very aggressive style and often sought to "win" via attrition (remember Mike's text walls? something simliar to that), while I kept whiteknighting for noobs because I felt he was driving them away. Back then I was more interested in non-Fate TM stuff than him so I kept trying to blindside him with pieces of Tsuki lore. The average GD thread was much closer to DataGambl's posts than what we have now. It was fun. Ah, poor arai.

Unfortunately I don't have archives from back then. I have a few threads archived from 2005-2006 but it's all translations, arai/evo stuff, etc. rather than actual discussion.

Yes it was.

Actually, if you want the archives of Badass Versus and Questions you could probably ask Tangerang. He won't give them to me but he gave them to Seika (because she could actually be a service to the community with them) and Hidari (because he was begging him for it for months). I don't think he would recognize you without an Avenger avatar though :P

[Leftovers]

I used to think that Tsukihime 2 was a thing that's totally going to happen eventually guys you just gotta keep believing. And also that coke's stuff has any merit as an actual translation.

[I3uster]

I used to think that Tsukihime 2 was a thing that's totally going to happen eventually guys you just gotta keep believing.

i still believe

hes just baiting you with that joke talk, there's too much side material entries regarding it and too many things in new stuff referencing it

without plans for 2 a remake is useless

r-right

[SeiKeo]

It's nicely readable urban fantasy with lots of pretentious babble to break up the plot so I see no reason why you would have to be super ashamed of liking that translation.

shame about that adherence to the text of the original tho

"All translations of texts, not only the inaccurate or slovenly ones, are slanders of the originals, at least to some degree. The very worst translators are not necessarily those who are most awkward or inept—the intelligent reader can often make an intuitive vault over mere stylistic deficiencies—but those who let their own sensibilities intrude too ostentatiously between the reader and the original text, thus subordinating the idiom of the original authors to their own.

But even the scrupulous, competent, and self-effacing translator is engaged in a kind of well-intentioned treachery. This is true even in those rare fortunate cases when great works find translators whose gifts are comparable (or superior) to those of the original authors: Thomas Urquhart’s Rabelais, for example, or John Florio’s Montaigne, or Tobias Smollett’s Cervantes; or even in those still rarer cases when an author is improved by conversion into another tongue. (The reason the French labor under the bizarre misapprehension that Edgar Allan Poe was a great poet, for instance, is that so much of his verse was translated by Baudelaire.)

What even a translator of genius can never give us, however, is the original author’s true likeness. Even the best translation is a darkened mirror, in which one glimpses only a partial figure moving among shadows. At times the mirror becomes very obscure indeed, at others delightfully bright; but at no time can any translator permit us to meet the artist face to face."

[Leftovers]

because he was begging him for it for months

I'm going to help Pai find you and beat you to death.

[I3uster]

"All translations of texts, not only the inaccurate or slovenly ones, are slanders of the originals, at least to some degree. The very worst translators are not necessarily those who are most awkward or inept—the intelligent reader can often make an intuitive vault over mere stylistic deficiencies—but those who let their own sensibilities intrude too ostentatiously between the reader and the original text, thus subordinating the idiom of the original authors to their own.

But even the scrupulous, competent, and self-effacing translator is engaged in a kind of well-intentioned treachery. This is true even in those rare fortunate cases when great works find translators whose gifts are comparable (or superior) to those of the original authors: Thomas Urquhart’s Rabelais, for example, or John Florio’s Montaigne, or Tobias Smollett’s Cervantes; or even in those still rarer cases when an author is improved by conversion into another tongue. (The reason the French labor under the bizarre misapprehension that Edgar Allan Poe was a great poet, for instance, is that so much of his verse was translated by Baudelaire.)

What even a translator of genius can never give us, however, is the original author’s true likeness. Even the best translation is a darkened mirror, in which one glimpses only a partial figure moving among shadows. At times the mirror becomes very obscure indeed, at others delightfully bright; but at no time can any translator permit us to meet the artist face to face."

what is your point

translation can never be an accurate replication of the original so changing random things to fit them to the lore of the tabletop game you really like is ok?

[Kirby]

gotta help him find tang first

[Mcjon01]

"All translations of texts, not only the inaccurate or slovenly ones, are slanders of the originals, at least to some degree. The very worst translators are not necessarily those who are most awkward or inept—the intelligent reader can often make an intuitive vault over mere stylistic deficiencies—but those who let their own sensibilities intrude too ostentatiously between the reader and the original text, thus subordinating the idiom of the original authors to their own.

But even the scrupulous, competent, and self-effacing translator is engaged in a kind of well-intentioned treachery. This is true even in those rare fortunate cases when great works find translators whose gifts are comparable (or superior) to those of the original authors: Thomas Urquhart’s Rabelais, for example, or John Florio’s Montaigne, or Tobias Smollett’s Cervantes; or even in those still rarer cases when an author is improved by conversion into another tongue. (The reason the French labor under the bizarre misapprehension that Edgar Allan Poe was a great poet, for instance, is that so much of his verse was translated by Baudelaire.)

What even a translator of genius can never give us, however, is the original author’s true likeness. Even the best translation is a darkened mirror, in which one glimpses only a partial figure moving among shadows. At times the mirror becomes very obscure indeed, at others delightfully bright; but at no time can any translator permit us to meet the artist face to face."

"Ergo, keep the honorifics kawaii-desu."

[SeiKeo]

what is your point

translation can never be an accurate replication of the original so changing random things to fit them to the lore of the tabletop game you really like is ok?

censure of intentional change under the pretense that unintentional change does not exist and is harmless is a false premise

[Kotonoha]

but those who let their own sensibilities intrude too ostentatiously between the reader and the original text, thus subordinating the idiom of the original authors to their own.

@takajun why is 好き only "love" when shirou's saying it to sakura and "like" to anyone else