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    Quote Originally Posted by Mcjon01 View Post
    So now that people have (presumably) had a chance to max her NP, how good of a healer is Iri compared to Medea Lily?
    Honestly prefer Lily because she can instantly charge her NP, so she can be swapped in in emergencies. While Iri has to take some time. Though I think Iri might be able to beat her in terms of output, and her NP gives BC too, which is nice
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    I'm guessing that Iri's NP heals for 2k/3k/3.5k/3.75k/4k, correct? If so, I would only take Iri over Medea Lily if your Medea Lily has a level 1 NP and you need to heal once a battle. Otherwise I'd say that Medea Lily is better due to being able to spam her heal more easily thanks to HSDW.

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    Honestly prefer Lily because she can instantly charge her NP, so she can be swapped in in emergencies. While Iri has to take some time. Though I think Iri might be able to beat her in terms of output, and her NP gives BC too, which is nice
    Iri's NP + Healing Power Up skill is still weaker than Medea Lily's heal at same NP level + NP interlude.
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    lol, welp

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    Then again, leveling up Lily's NP is harder than leveling up Iri's, so welp again. Currently my Iri is at lv5, but Lily is at lv1 but with Interlude
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    I could be wrong about Iri's healing/NP Level, but I'm pretty sure it's going to increase like that since that's how it works for Tamamo and Medea Lily.

    And, as you said, it's much easier to get NP level 5 on Iri than Medea Lily.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trubo View Post
    I could be wrong about Iri's healing/NP Level, but I'm pretty sure it's going to increase like that since that's how it works for Tamamo and Medea Lily.

    And, as you said, it's much easier to get NP level 5 on Iri than Medea Lily.
    Well definitely for those who did not NP5 Medea Lily when she had a pickup, or not even have her to begin with. If you need a Healer, you really should get Iri from this Event and NP5 her.

    If you already have Medea Lily Np3 or more and Gentle affection however... Medea Lily's throne as Heal Nuke isn't vacant anytime soon.
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    HOWEVER, other than the obvious indicated reason that Iri is easier to NP5, Iri has more damage output, and in certain situations, Guts might be a better option. You can't heal if you get nuked in 1 hit anyway. :/

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeremyTMH View Post
    Well definitely for those who did not NP5 Medea Lily when she had a pickup, or not even have her to begin with. If you need a Healer, you really should get Iri from this Event and NP5 her.

    If you already have Medea Lily Np3 or more and Gentle affection however... Medea Lily's throne as Heal Nuke isn't vacant anytime soon.

    HOWEVER, other than the obvious indicated reason that Iri is easier to NP5, Iri has more damage output, and in certain situations, Guts might be a better option. You can't heal if you get nuked in 1 hit anyway. :/
    That and the question is whether you need a debuff cleanse or not as well. Iri doesn't have debuff cleanse from what I remember.



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    the thing all ends in the guts that Iri Np does and she is easier to obtain, well not exactly easy, but more accessible she is a viable healer with decent damage output Medea Lily heals more and heals faster, but Iri can provide stalling

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    Well, it'd help to know the exact amount Iri heals for. I was just guessing with 2000/3000/3500/3750/4000 since 1000/500/250/250 is how Medea Lily's increases. Double checked Tamamo's heal and apparently she's 1000/1500/1750/1875/2000, or 500/250/125/125.

    Guess I can run Fuyuki A and see what I get with her heal once she's NP level 5.
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    At Level 5 it's 3000 with no boosts.

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    Ouch, then yeah, she follows Tamamo's healing increase.

    So, in short, Medea Lily is straight up better for healing at NP level 1 once you do her NP interlude.
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    Of course Iri should be getting an interlude at some point too since her last profile box is locked which means unlike the other event Servants, the event itself isn't her interlude.

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    アイリvsメディアリリィ性能比較
    宝具回復量(アイリLv5、メリィLv1前提)
    アイリ:全体3000、献身の覚悟10で4500
    メリィ:幕間クリアで4000、うたかたの恋10で単体に対し8000に増加(レベル1だと6 000)
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    Also, her normal heal skill also heals for 3000, and the booster skill is a 50% boost so it takes them up to 4500. (Both at Lv10 because I have poor impulse control.)

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    At first I was wondering what the hell that 8000 was supposed to be, but then remembered that Medea Lily's targeted healing up skill goes up to 100%.
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    Airi vs media Lily performance comparison
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    Loli is more healing than big boobs.


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    I think if it's pure for emergency healing then Medea Lily is still better, but if you want a Caster that do a bit more damage and some other form of support then I'd take Iri, which is most of the time.

    By the way, am I the only one who thinks Arjuna is better than Gil gameplay wise ? Once you max his 2nd and 3rd skill he is like an one man archer army in hard battles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Altaris View Post
    I think if it's pure for emergency healing then Medea Lily is still better, but if you want a Caster that do a bit more damage and some other form of support then I'd take Iri, which is most of the time.

    By the way, am I the only one who thinks Arjuna is better than Gil gameplay wise ? Once you max his 2nd and 3rd skill he is like an one man archer army in hard battles.
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    Arjuna is hard to kill and can supply his own stars passively. But Gil's better if you want to nuke Servants.

    I wonder whose NP hits harder at neutral tho. Ea with innate NP up or Pashupata with PB.

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    Probably Ea I think. Can't beat that 520%.


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