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    Quote Originally Posted by hinode View Post
    But playable Kiara is an Alter Ego, not a Beast.
    You can tell that to Angra.

    Avenger Class yet the only one effective against all Beast types provided that he's level 100, 10/10/10, Bond 10, max fou'd, and you'd actually take the time to buff him enough for the kill.
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    I'm trying to calculate how much Nobu's NP will do to Raikou. In the places where the formula has values like power mod would I put in 660 or 6.6? And does the same go for buster/attack ie. if I had Merlin, would I make it 50 or .5? I'm assuming the latter value but I don't know for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arha View Post
    I'm trying to calculate how much Nobu's NP will do to Raikou. In the places where the formula has values like power mod would I put in 660 or 6.6? And does the same go for buster/attack ie. if I had Merlin, would I make it 50 or .5? I'm assuming the latter value but I don't know for sure.
    1+6.6 for the Power Up bonus, assuming you have +660% Power Up from event+Tenka Fuuba+other. 1+.5 for the Buster bonus if that's the only source of Buster Up you have. Also, she'll have a 1.5 Super Effective modifier.
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    Oh, Tenka Fuuba is a power bonus then? Alright, time to rearrange this then. I guess that makes it 7.25 at level four then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arha View Post
    Oh, Tenka Fuuba is a power bonus then? Alright, time to rearrange this then. I guess that makes it 7.25 at level four then.
    Yep. Generally speaking, if the skill or NP effect is Anti-X, it's Power Up. Super Effective is mostly NP, though not sure how Angra's CE and Kiara's Anti-Ruler thing works.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trubo View Post
    Yep. Generally speaking, if the skill or NP effect is Anti-X, it's Power Up. Super Effective is mostly NP, though not sure how Angra's CE and Kiara's Anti-Ruler thing works.
    Its power ups
    Super-Effective is NP only, Kyte confirmed it a while back

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    Hm. So, on average, about 1.63m with double Merlin and Anniversary Blonde. Her NP gen is kind of low but with two Merlins it shouldn't really matter much.

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    Default outfit would likely net you more damage with that setup, as you're lacking Attack Up more than Buster Up.

    Edit: Also, the Super Effective modifier increases with Overcharge.
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    I guess so, but it's maxed and AB isn't. The difference in damage shouldn't be too major anyway.

    Red beans + using the standard outfit increases damage to 2.22m average.

    Wait, no. My Sumo is maxed so it has 2000 attack and adds an additional 15% multiplier. Total damage is actually 2.85m average, apparently. I was going with attack value of 10494 instead of 12494 and 1.9 instead of 2.05.
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    Why does No Second Strike charge more gauge than Yuishiki?
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    Whats Yuishiki?

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    Assassin Shiki's NP.

    They have the same number of hits and Li's NP gen is only .52 while Shiki's is .8 but if I slap on equivalent Arts buffs Li gets like half his gauge back and Shiki gets jack shit.
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    I assuming we're just talking about self-buffed Li and self-buffed Shiki with lvl10 arts buffs? Honestly i have no idea.

    Overkil? Overgauge? What about craft essences?

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    I know that instant kill NPs won't grant NP gauge if you instant kill with them. If that's not the case, then no idea.
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    Are you hitting the same targets? Different enemies provide different NP charge rates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aozaki-desu View Post
    I assuming we're just talking about self-buffed Li and self-buffed Shiki with lvl10 arts buffs? Honestly i have no idea.

    Overkil? Overgauge? What about craft essences?
    Lv. 36 Another Ending for both. And yeah, both self buffs at level 10 alongside a level 10 Tamamo buff and a level 10 Extra uniform buff on each.

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    I know that instant kill NPs won't grant NP gauge if you instant kill with them. If that's not the case, then no idea.
    No instakills either time.
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    Are you hitting the same targets? Different enemies provide different NP charge rates.
    Maybe; I'd have to check recently, though I only tend to bring my Arts team out for challenge quests.
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    So now that we have a Extra Slot, if you guys would need or want to use Jeanne from your support list, which CE would you pick between 2030 and LB Divine Banquet? She originally had Lunchtime on her but that one goes to Waver for now. Prisma Cosmos can be another option.
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    if HS Portrait or Personal Training/Lesson isn't an option then I would use 2030 (note I already own 3 if that matters in my decision)
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    I guess i'm going to put 2030 on her. Maybe switch to Divine Banquet if we get some kind of boss that spams it's NP. Thanks.
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