Siehfried's and Nightingale's def up stacks with normal def up right
Or not?
Siehfried's and Nightingale's def up stacks with normal def up right
Or not?
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Pretty sure that it does
Originally Posted by Arashi_Leonhart
putting aside buster meme adn current meta
which would people think better, ivan or achilles, in terms of gameplay
i personally think ivan edges higher somewhat but i am curious in what others think
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I am extremely disappointed Achilles' deck wasn't five Quick cards.
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Probably Ivan thanks to AOE buff clear.
As much as I want it to be Achilles, it's definitely Ivan. You just don't mess with a 500 years old old man.
Like, Ivan has absurd NP gain, and is aptly Buster meme viable. Plus he got the whole I got Amakusa's shtick but on a skill!
While Achilles' not bad, in his own right i.e., his Quick actually hits a wee bit harder than his Art (not hampered by lol Q modifier), and is more attrition capable, not having a Quick meme really hurts. Also his NP gen is nothing to write home about (lore compliant). So thank Patroclus he got an NP fill skill.
Oh and, Achilles gens star better than Ivan (outside of Innocent Monster activation) because the person himself says him and his chariot is a comet (falling stars). Sure wish we can overcrit or something...that could make Quick a bit more viable.
At least he got all his NP one way or the other!
Too bad the armor's just for show.
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Achilles' deck bugs me. I'm disappointed that he's not BAQQQ or BBAQQ and with higher NP gen to compensate for less arts cards.
Yeah. He could have been bonker Rider Kintoki tier NP gen, but alas.
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Yeah i feel like BBAQQ fits him better
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he's supposed to also be a lancer so his deck kinda annoys me
well at least he didn't run me into the ground like New Year's did so that's a bonus
I like to think of him as a better Summer Ishtar
Conparing him to Rider Kintoki makes me feel bad ;/
do people still keep/use LOZ/IA/FC?
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I have all of them LBd and the IA is lvl 100 too
I put IA on support list sometimes but that's it really
pretty much just use sumos/kscopes for everything, with the occasional 2030/prisma
I use LOZ a lot with Cu Alter, and IA with Jack and similar Servants.
Frankly, those three CEs you mentioned are better suited for decks like QBBBA with NPB, QQQBA with NPQ or QBAAA with NPA, since you have a lot of cards that get the bonus. Fortunately these cards get a +2000 ATK bonus at level 100, if not I would certainly use Sumo because it's that good of a card.
I still use FC since it's LB'd and all.
But like Oz said, those are probably best used for single dominant card deck type of Servants with complimenting NP.
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I still use IA until they release better Quick up options
FC is good but if I'm using Arts teams it's usually on a CQ so I bring more CQ related CEs
I still have my 100 LZO on Kintoki and my 100 IA on Jack. FC is too meh for me to ever want to raise it to 100 since Arts teams are good enough at generating NP gauge, so may as well stick with 100 BG.
IA is 100 but I rarely use Quick Servants. Leveling LZO now after maxing Kaleidoscope but don't know if I'll use it much more since I don't really use anyone with a BBB deck except Musashi. If I had a fifth Formalcraft I'm sure I'd use that one a lot.
Who's the better Rider: Ozy or Ivan?
Ozy I guess. Better at offense and surviving.
Ivan could use a heal somewhere on his skills.
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