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    Quote Originally Posted by Rafflesiac View Post
    tfw no lb evil iri ce
    Well, if you already have NP2 Okeanus Caster or NP1 Sanzang, one Black Grail, Waver, and one Nero (Caster), you can 3 turn that node.

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    Basically, just make Pai put his Sanzang up as support with max LB Black Grail if you really want to three turn that node, provided you have what I mentioned just above.
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    It's like if someone told me "make me a milkshake" and i was blind and they gave me the ingredients and I made a milkshake because milkshakes are good, but it turns out that milkshake was a bomb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trubo View Post
    one Nero (Caster)
    yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
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    canon finish apo vol 3

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    NP1 Da Vinci can substitute for Nero (Caster), though she'll need to use level 20 max LB Golden Sumo instead of level 20 max LB Aerial Drive. [(10598+786+1000) * 4.5 * 1 * (1+.1) * 0.9 * 2 * 1 * 0.9 * 0.23 * (1+.3+.3+.15) * (1+.6+.4)] = 79942 minimum damage Somehow an errant Black Grail Power Up got in there.
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    It's like if someone told me "make me a milkshake" and i was blind and they gave me the ingredients and I made a milkshake because milkshakes are good, but it turns out that milkshake was a bomb.

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    Wait srsly

    Whats da vinci 1st skill level needs to be
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    you don't need to think about it that hard
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    Quote Originally Posted by castor212 View Post
    Wait srsly

    Whats da vinci 1st skill level needs to be
    Forgot to factor in the mooks' HP since Nero (Caster) had attribute advantage while Da Vinci is neutral. Da Vinci doesn't need to use her first skill, but you need a 100 Golden Sumo to pull that one off. I didn't want to factor in the damage it can do if it fails since, you know, it can fail.
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    It's like if someone told me "make me a milkshake" and i was blind and they gave me the ingredients and I made a milkshake because milkshakes are good, but it turns out that milkshake was a bomb.

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    What about NP2 Da Vinci?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trubo View Post
    Forgot to factor in the mooks' HP since Nero (Caster) had attribute advantage while Da Vinci is neutral. Da Vinci doesn't need to use her first skill, but you need a 100 Golden Sumo to pull that one off. I didn't want to factor in the damage it can do if it fails since, you know, it can fail.
    Oh hey im good enough in that department
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trubo View Post
    Forgot to factor in the mooks' HP since Nero (Caster) had attribute advantage while Da Vinci is neutral. Da Vinci doesn't need to use her first skill, but you need a 100 Golden Sumo to pull that one off. I didn't want to factor in the damage it can do if it fails since, you know, it can fail.
    Sweet I can do that then.
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    Wait, shit, have the Black Grail part in there for some dumb reason. Need to recalculate stuff again.

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    Yeah, sorry, that was a stupid mistake on my part. NP2 Da Vinci with 100 Golden Sumo doesn't guarantee that the 85k HP ghost dies, but gets pretty close.

    [(10598+2000+1000) * 6 * 1 * (1+.1) * 0.9 * 2 * 1 * 0.9 * 0.23 * (1+.3+.3+.15) * (1+.4)] = 81927

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    If we assume that Da Vinci's first skill's NP Damage doesn't fail, then a NP2 Da Vinci (level 20 max LB Golden Sumo, 2/x/10) should be able to pull it off.

    [(10598+2000+1000) * 6 * 1 * (1+.1) * 0.9 * 2 * 1 * 0.9 * 0.23 * (1+.3+.3+.15) * (1+.21+.4)] = 85804 minimum damage to mooks
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    It's like if someone told me "make me a milkshake" and i was blind and they gave me the ingredients and I made a milkshake because milkshakes are good, but it turns out that milkshake was a bomb.

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    Is level 10 3rd skill required?

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    Looking at the other CEs and damn, it certainly sucks that all the start NP gauge + Arts bonus CEs are largely mixed stats. Best a NP1 Da Vinci can guarantee assuming that a level 10 first skill's NP Power Up applies is

    [(10598+1000+1000) * 4.5 * 1 * (1+.1+.15) * 0.9 * 2 * 1 * 0.9 * 0.23 * (1+.3+.3) * (1+.5+.3+.15)] = 82379 minimum damage, but this requires a level 100 2018 New Year SSR CE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pendant View Post
    Is level 10 3rd skill required?
    Oh, if you're using a starting 50% NP gauge CE, no. That can be level 1.

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    However, if you're using NP2 Okeanus Caster in Wave 3, then she needs a level 5 HSDW.

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    But yeah, long story short, NP1 Da Vinci cannot guarantee that both Assassin mooks die, no matter what CE you give her (starting NP gauge + Arts boost + pure Attack CE when?). You'll need NP2 Da Vinci to do that.

    However, NP1 Da Vinci gets pretty close, but won't work for automation purposes.
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    It's like if someone told me "make me a milkshake" and i was blind and they gave me the ingredients and I made a milkshake because milkshakes are good, but it turns out that milkshake was a bomb.

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    Thanks for the advice.

    Though having them first is really a no - go for me since they're really expensive.

    And I just realized that proofs are more easier to obtain in raffles than to farm it yourself.

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    Yeah, I would only run Assassin 40 AP to potentially finish Self-Portraits faster versus 20 AP.
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    Good news, Emiya is SSR tier

    After 2 SQ and an NP interlude.


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    Does someone have a level 20 regular Black Grail? If so, please tell me how much Attack it has. If I've been undervaluing it, it's entirely possible that a NP1 Sanzang with level 20 Black Grail can take care of the Soul Eater in Wave 2.
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    is NP2 Freed good enough

    please tell me he's good enough
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