Edit: Fuck, made a huge typo when writing up Arash's NP damage. Refer to the reddit thread I posted for the correction. I chose to replace Ishtar with Gilgamesh because of Gilgamesh's NP interlude and bonus damage to Astolfo/d'Eon.
For people wanting a good Mona Lisa farming (Fake) setup, here's something I came up with. Should be the least whale-intensive one to do. As per usual, assuming fourth ascension level cap, +1000 Four Attack, NP5 for any Servant available in FP gacha or event welfare SR, and any NP interlude or skill strengthening quest done.
Setup:
Mystic Code = Fragment of 2004 (level 6)
Chloe (x/10/10, 100 Golden Sumo)
Arash (x/x/6, max LB Hollow Magic or x/x/1, Kaleidoscope)
support NP1 Ishtar (10/10/10, max LB School of Chaldea)
true manuscript boosting Servant #1 (Reika CE)
true manuscript boosting Servant #2 (Reika CE)
true manuscript boosting Servant #3 (max LB Empieta or Maiden Leading Chaldea)
Wave 1:
just kill the damn things, they only have 9k HP. Guess you can try to generate some stars or something
Wave 2:
Chloe's second and third skills, Arash's third skill, Ishtar's skills, Memories of the Lunar Sea Arts Up on Chloe, Chloe NP
d'Eon should have 20k or less HP after both NPs, should die same turn.
In most cases, this should be a three turn battle. Rolling low in wave 3 might make it a 4 turn battle.
Last edited by Trubo; January 10th, 2018 at 01:02 AM.
Originally Posted by Arashi_Leonhart
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Originally Posted by Mcjon01
So if I'm reading this right DP is saying that the feature almost everybody hates that is bad and makes the forum objectively worse will never go away because that would negatively impact another feature that nobody has ever used and most likely never will use just in case someday, someone wants to use it. Is that right?
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It's like if someone told me "make me a milkshake" and i was blind and they gave me the ingredients and I made a milkshake because milkshakes are good, but it turns out that milkshake was a bomb.
For people wanting a good Mona Lisa farming (Fake) setup, here's something I came up with. Should be the least whale-intensive one to do. As per usual, assuming fourth ascension level cap, +1000 Four Attack, NP5 for any Servant available in FP gacha or event welfare SR, and any NP interlude or skill strengthening quest done.
Setup:
Mystic Code = Memories of the Lunar Sea (level 6)
Chloe (x/10/10, 100 Golden Sumo)
Arash (x/x/6, max LB Hollow Magic or x/x/1, Kaleidoscope)
support NP1 Ishtar (10/10/10, max LB School of Chaldea)
true manuscript boosting Servant #1 (Reika CE)
true manuscript boosting Servant #2 (Reika CE)
true manuscript boosting Servant #3 (max LB Empieta or Maiden Leading Chaldea)
Wave 1:
just kill the damn things, they only have 9k HP. Guess you can try to generate some stars or something
Wave 2:
Chloe's second and third skills, Arash's third skill, Ishtar's skills, Memories of the Lunar Sea Arts Up on Chloe, Chloe NP
Don't feel like fucking around with formats on multiple sites, so here are setups for bronze and silver currencies too. Note, silver currency is a bitch and a half trying to complete in a timely fashion without relying on quartz gacha Casters and Alter Egos.
So if I'm reading this right DP is saying that the feature almost everybody hates that is bad and makes the forum objectively worse will never go away because that would negatively impact another feature that nobody has ever used and most likely never will use just in case someday, someone wants to use it. Is that right?
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It's like if someone told me "make me a milkshake" and i was blind and they gave me the ingredients and I made a milkshake because milkshakes are good, but it turns out that milkshake was a bomb.
Assuming an NP matches the relevant card type bonus, what level would an Aerial Drive or Dive to Blue have to be to be better for NP damage than a level 100 Golden Sumo?
even assuming no other atk, buster, or NP damage buffs, the servant's base attack is a factor here, so more information is needed
around lvl 50-60 thoughfor most SSRs I think, with the level required increasing as the base attack decreases
assuming max fou'd lvl 90 tesla, all self buffs at lvl 10 proc and no other buffs, lvl 45
assuming max fou'd lvl 80 kuro, all self buffs at lvl 10, you'd need like a lvl 185 dive to blue lol
Assuming an NP matches the relevant card type bonus, what level would an Aerial Drive or Dive to Blue have to be to be better for NP damage than a level 100 Golden Sumo?
Aerial Drive should always beat Golden Sumo except when there's already a hefty Buster Up and/or NP Damage Up buff on the Servant. As for Dive to Blue, it's mixed stats, so you'll probably need it to be around level 80 to make it better than a level 20 Golden Sumo.
Originally Posted by Arashi_Leonhart
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Originally Posted by Mcjon01
So if I'm reading this right DP is saying that the feature almost everybody hates that is bad and makes the forum objectively worse will never go away because that would negatively impact another feature that nobody has ever used and most likely never will use just in case someday, someone wants to use it. Is that right?
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It's like if someone told me "make me a milkshake" and i was blind and they gave me the ingredients and I made a milkshake because milkshakes are good, but it turns out that milkshake was a bomb.
And that reddit farming guide thing should be complete. At least, assuming no enemy composition changes happen.
Originally Posted by Arashi_Leonhart
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Originally Posted by Mcjon01
So if I'm reading this right DP is saying that the feature almost everybody hates that is bad and makes the forum objectively worse will never go away because that would negatively impact another feature that nobody has ever used and most likely never will use just in case someday, someone wants to use it. Is that right?
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It's like if someone told me "make me a milkshake" and i was blind and they gave me the ingredients and I made a milkshake because milkshakes are good, but it turns out that milkshake was a bomb.
Skeletons and Dragon Tooth Warriors are both Earth attribute, right?
Originally Posted by Arashi_Leonhart
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Originally Posted by Mcjon01
So if I'm reading this right DP is saying that the feature almost everybody hates that is bad and makes the forum objectively worse will never go away because that would negatively impact another feature that nobody has ever used and most likely never will use just in case someday, someone wants to use it. Is that right?
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It's like if someone told me "make me a milkshake" and i was blind and they gave me the ingredients and I made a milkshake because milkshakes are good, but it turns out that milkshake was a bomb.
KAIZA and Mcjon, I'm sorry. I'll see if a possible Plugsuit setup can do it in 3 turns, but yeah, you need a max LB Black Grail if you want to guarantee a 3 turn setup the way I've got it written. NP5 Okeanus Caster with a level 20 Black Grail cannot kill the Wave 2 Soul Eater the way I have it listed below.
Assassin 40 AP 3 turn setup
Setup
Mystic Code = Anniversary Blond (10)
Arash (max LB Hollow Magic, x/x/6)
NP2 Sanzang (max LB Black Grail with 840 Attack, 10/x/x) | NP3 Sanzang (Black Grail with 840 Attack, 10/x/x) | NP3 Okeanus Caster (max LB Black Grail with 1724 Attack, 5/10/x)
support Waver (CE doesn't matter, x/x/10)
NP3 Nero (Caster) (max LB Black Grail with 2059 Attack, 10/10/10)
Last edited by Trubo; January 12th, 2018 at 08:38 PM.
Originally Posted by Arashi_Leonhart
Then I will ask that you pay closer attention
Originally Posted by Mcjon01
So if I'm reading this right DP is saying that the feature almost everybody hates that is bad and makes the forum objectively worse will never go away because that would negatively impact another feature that nobody has ever used and most likely never will use just in case someday, someone wants to use it. Is that right?
Originally Posted by You
It's like if someone told me "make me a milkshake" and i was blind and they gave me the ingredients and I made a milkshake because milkshakes are good, but it turns out that milkshake was a bomb.
Last edited by Trubo; January 13th, 2018 at 01:34 AM.
Originally Posted by Arashi_Leonhart
Then I will ask that you pay closer attention
Originally Posted by Mcjon01
So if I'm reading this right DP is saying that the feature almost everybody hates that is bad and makes the forum objectively worse will never go away because that would negatively impact another feature that nobody has ever used and most likely never will use just in case someday, someone wants to use it. Is that right?
Originally Posted by You
It's like if someone told me "make me a milkshake" and i was blind and they gave me the ingredients and I made a milkshake because milkshakes are good, but it turns out that milkshake was a bomb.
Hmm...While I do have some of those, I don't have the required NP or skill levels (NP1 Okeanos Caster, NP2 Nero Caster, both of them topping at 6 because mats are hard). But, I can use this as a basis to try think up alternatives with what I have. Thanks.
So if I'm reading this right DP is saying that the feature almost everybody hates that is bad and makes the forum objectively worse will never go away because that would negatively impact another feature that nobody has ever used and most likely never will use just in case someday, someone wants to use it. Is that right?
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It's like if someone told me "make me a milkshake" and i was blind and they gave me the ingredients and I made a milkshake because milkshakes are good, but it turns out that milkshake was a bomb.
Hopefully Xuanzang and Melt make that area tolerable. I'm not very happy about those bulky ghost adds on the third wave though. Support Nero can handle them I hope.
Well, if you already have NP2 Okeanus Caster or NP1 Sanzang, one Black Grail, Waver, and one Nero (Caster), you can 3 turn that node.
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Basically, just make Pai put his Sanzang up as support with max LB Black Grail if you really want to three turn that node, provided you have what I mentioned just above.
Originally Posted by Arashi_Leonhart
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Originally Posted by Mcjon01
So if I'm reading this right DP is saying that the feature almost everybody hates that is bad and makes the forum objectively worse will never go away because that would negatively impact another feature that nobody has ever used and most likely never will use just in case someday, someone wants to use it. Is that right?
Originally Posted by You
It's like if someone told me "make me a milkshake" and i was blind and they gave me the ingredients and I made a milkshake because milkshakes are good, but it turns out that milkshake was a bomb.