Fate/Grand Order Gameplay Discussion (CONTAINS SPOILERS)

[hayate]

Never understood this statement that Merlin make the game too easy, even with Merlin, i got my ass kicked in CQ and some hard quests as well, he's not a god, he's a servant like every other one.

Well, it can happen.

But unless you used Merlin as a pawn to bring in even stronger Servants, I don't really know why you thought of it that way.

I have silver Servants that gets buffed pretty quickly due to Merlin's timed buffs. And yeah, I'm looking at Lu Bu, Fergus and Bedivere.

That, and I spam Garden of Avalon in every wave and every opportunity that presented. Used that one with Magus Association attire to make it more possible to spam Garden of Avalon 2 times or more in the same wave.

[Qinglong]

I used Altera the Sun on the spriggan, but it took some damage the turn earlier from support ishtar

[Trubo]

Are Spriggans tagged as male? I'm wondering if I can maybe find a way to automate the Saber area and Orion being able to take out the Spriggan would help a lot. I'm sick of farming the Rider area but the Berserker node has a pretty lame drop rate.

Oh, huh, Archer has a comparable drop rate to Rider. That might also be worth looking at but I think I concluded it wouldn't be practical.

Huh, I never made a three turn setup for Archer or Saber. Let me get on that.

For now, here's the setup I made for drop efficiency.

• Mystic Code = Fragment of 2004 (level 6)
• Chloe (x/10/6, 100 Golden Sumo)
• Arash (x/x/10, level 20 max LB Aerial Drive)
• support NP1 Gilgamesh (10/10/10, max LB School of Chaldea), will include NP2 for reference
• manuscript boosting Servant #1
• manuscript boosting Servant #2
• manuscript boosting Servant #3

Wave 1

• support Gilgamesh (Archer) and Arash need a single Arts chain between now and Wave 3.
• Everyone's third skill, then just kill the enemy dead

Wave 2

• Chloe's second skill, support Gilgamesh (Archer)'s first skill, Fragment of 2004's NP Damage Up on Chloe, Chloe NP
• Chloe NP = 202357 minimum damage (Spriggan has 207158 HP)
  Spoiler:

  [(9845+2000+1000) * 15 * 1 * (1+.275) * 0.95 * 2 * 1.1 * 0.9 * 0.23 * (1+.21+.15) * (1+.4)]

Wave 3

• Arash's NP -> support Gilgamesh (Archer)'s NP
• Arash NP = 78794/86673 minimum damage to mooks+Astolfo/d'Eon
  Spoiler:

  [(5816+786+1000) * 12 * 1.5 * (1+.1) * 0.95 * 2 * 1 * 0.9 * 0.23 * (1+.21) * (1+.1)]
• support Gilgamesh (Archer) NP1 = 42828/69486/56884 minimum damage to mook/Astolfo/d'Eon
  Spoiler:

  [(12280+300+1000) * 4 * 1.5 * 1 * 0.95 * 2 * 1.1 * 0.9 * 0.23 * (1+.21) * 1.625+175]
• support Gilgamesh (Archer) NP2 = 53491/86814/71061 minimum damage to mook/Astolfo/d'Eon
  Spoiler:

  [(12280+300+1000) * 5 * 1.5 * 1 * 0.95 * 2 * 1.1 * 0.9 * 0.23 * (1+.21) * 1.625+175]
• boss should have 20k or less HP after both NPs, should die same turn.

[Trubo]

Saber 40 AP is actually pretty easy to accomplish in 3 turns.

https://www.reddit.com/r/grandorder/...r_saber_40_ap/

[Rafflesiac]

Is the best node for Fake manuscripts still Rider?

[Qinglong]

if you have a high enough bonus

Don't know what the cutoff point is exactly, wiki claims +9.

[Arha]

Shit. Your strategy sounds more reliable than the one I was thinking of going with, but I just spent the bones I would have needed to ascend the lesbians. I'll need to find a substitute for Billy.

[Bird of Hermes]

I think that some servants may need to take the Granblue route and get completely renovated as strengthening quests are basically band-aid solutions and no amount of them will fix the like of Gilles and Boudica.

[castor212]

how does it work on granblue

[Qinglong]

I stopped playing GB some time ago but the only other game I could think of which tried to fix older units (That wasn't a blanket buff for all units) is AoI, and it only did so for Platinum/SSR unit skills. Regular old units were still left in the dust.

[Kotonoha]

how does it work on granblue

They sometimes just straight up change a bunch of characters' skill sets at once if they suck

Congratulations Vane

[Bird of Hermes]

I stopped playing GB some time ago but the only other game I could think of which tried to fix older units (That wasn't a blanket buff for all units) is AoI, and it only did so for Platinum/SSR unit skills. Regular old units were still left in the dust.

There are still a few gold units that need fixing; Stheno, Scherazade and the like.

I mean Siegfried can get fixed by changing Golden rule with a skill like Armour of Fafnir that's a taunt+DEF up and maybe even NP gain up as well and suddenly he's the brilliant tank he was always meant to be instead of just another mediocre AoE Buster Saber.

[R.Lock]

I like to meme, but Sieg can actually do big numbers with fairly low buffs.

And you'll be surprised that 'Stheno is bad' is a myth. Stheno being bad outside the niche she's supposed to excel at (which she does) is pretty much saying that she isn't bad, after all.

Scheherezade and Boudicca, tho. Ew.

[Qinglong]

Stheno's NP could use an upgrade into... something I guess because IK is bad


Boudica needs at least both of her first two skills overhauled to be viable

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give Schez a NP upgrade then forget about her because I don't want to deal with trying to fix anything else. Maybe make the first skill last 3 turns or something.

[castor212]

i wish siegfried has das reingold as 1st skill, like np fill on top of np gain up
but then id scream "MEDUSA GOT POWERCREPT"

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They sometimes just straight up change a bunch of characters' skill sets at once if they suck

Congratulations Vane

is that

always a good thing?

no backlash of sort?

[Bird of Hermes]

Boudicca, tho. Ew.

She's my favourite national hero so I am very salty about how she's been depicted in FGO

[Kotonoha]

Not usually because the rebalances generally just make bad characters actually usable which is always welcome, but sometimes

RIP Titan Societte

[R.Lock]

F

[Bird of Hermes]

Stheno's NP could use an upgrade into... something I guess because IK is bad


Boudica needs at least both of her first two skills overhauled to be viable

I think Stheno needs a Base Instant Death chance and have it increase against males like with Euryale. it would arguably make her the best in her niche.

With Boudica I'm fine with Battle Continuation, the other two aren't good and her NP is a worse version of Mash's who is better and has no cost so there is absolutely no reason to use her at all. If they made the first skill a party wide attach buff with an additional Anti-Roman attack up then she's suddenly a somewhat viable support rider.

[Qinglong]

BC doesn't help Boudica's problems at all. At the very minimum she needs Indomitable Will or w/e like Spartacus and Columbus have.

No comment on Oath to the Goddess because it's probably one of the worst skills to the game and adding/changing it to practically anything else it would make it better. Hell, even Sanson got better coverage.