Fate/Grand Order Gameplay Discussion (CONTAINS SPOILERS)

[Canon]

Outsource to an Indian or Chinese

[Hakuno]

Who's better to put as a Saber supp NP5 Suzuka or NP2 Saber Alter?

[bbsuki]

As I have learned during past battles, never trust on dodge and invul to dodge the poison, burn and debuffs.

Those chances of those mooks inflicting negative status on your characters can go up like crazy if it wants to.

Best defense for those who inflict status is the immune to debuff skill, which sadly, appears in only some of the characters, a Mystic Code, and *gasp* silver Rashoumon event Benkei CE (for those who are conscious of building cheap but strong teams).

Although I like Jeanne and her CE, it can be expensive if you go on an offensive streak.

What do you mean? Dodge and invul can't be used to prevent negative status effects obviously.

[Qinglong]

Who's better to put as a Saber supp NP5 Suzuka or NP2 Saber Alter?

real answer: doesn't matter because unless they have a da vinci shop CE no one will ever use them

serious answer: Depends on if you give Alter bond CE/NP Gauge CE or not, I would generally pick a support who can NP quicker first, but if you have a bond CE you can put that up and hope people pick it to add to collection

[eddyak]

Newbie here on an NA account, what's the most efficient way of farming... well, anything really.

For EXP, go for the dailies. You get two different kinds of EXP every day, and you'll usually get one knight class and one cavalry class (Saber and Rider, for example), with a Berserker or two thrown in.

I'd recommend only using the class EXP on their own classes, because they give an extra 20% bonus exp, which is basically a sixth EXP card.

For Ascension pieces, again the dailies, but they're usually underneath the previous ones, and they're a little more of a pain in the butt because you aren't guaranteed to get the pieces you want.

QP, well, nobody ever needs QP. Nobody. Don't listen to the people who say otherwise, they're maxed out at level 900 and also lying. Don't listen.

Other than that, there are drop tables you can probably find if you want a specific material or skill gem.

[Rafflesiac]

Who's better to put as a Saber supp NP5 Suzuka or NP2 Saber Alter?

Suzuka, she's cuter and hits harder.

[Trubo]

QP, well, nobody ever needs QP. Nobody. Don't listen to the people who say otherwise, they're maxed out at level 900 and also lying. Don't listen.

Until you decide to start leveling skills. Then there is never enough QP.

[R.Lock]

Suzuka, she's cuter and hits harder.

lol

[Sesto]

Newbie here on an NA account, what's the most efficient way of farming... well, anything really.

3 kaleidoscopes or servants that have skills with np charge

[Rafflesiac]

lol

Yes and at NP5 with level 10 buffs vs NP2 Alter also yes.

[R.Lock]

Yes and at NP5 with level 10 buffs vs NP2 Alter also yes.

You're too drunk on JK Fox.

Besides having 700 less atk and 50% less in her NP modifier, JK has 10% less on Buster buff. Even NP buff doesn't make her hit harder on NP turn.

[Trubo]

I agree with Raffles on NP5 Suzuka being a better option than NP2 Saber Alter. The better NP generation and crits that Suzuka has make up for the advantages Saber Alter has.

[R.Lock]

She generates second NP faster, yes.

Hitting on NP harder, no.

[Arha]

Believe it or not, cards other than NP exist.

[Trubo]

The difference in NP damage on just the NP modifier and Buster modifier is about 18%. Not that big a difference when NP nuking is about all Saber Alter has over others.

[R.Lock]

Believe it or not, cards other than NP exist.

Unless Suzuka is rolling in stars, Saber Alter is going to hit harder on average than she does anyway.

[Arha]

Unless Suzuka is rolling in stars, Saber Alter is going to hit harder on average than she does anyway.

They have about the same NP gen except Suzuka has a skill to grant charge each turn, so she'll NP more often. She also has the ability to make stars, has good synergy with Servants like Tamamo and can get off powerful crits easily.

Also, by the looks of it Suzuka at NP5 does something like 95% the damage of NP2 Alter. Not accounting for attributes.

[Tepanyakigo]

They have about the same NP gen except Suzuka has a skill to grant charge each turn, so she'll NP more often. She also has the ability to make stars, has good synergy with Servants like Tamamo and can get off powerful crits easily.

Also, by the looks of it Suzuka at NP5 does something like 95% the damage of NP2 Alter. Not accounting for attributes.

Wow... Is Alter that stronk in terms of nuking? I thought Arash does the job better...

So, has anyone ever tasted NP5 Alter? I'm just curious how great the base damage is

[R.Lock]

They have about the same NP gen except Suzuka has a skill to grant charge each turn, so she'll NP more often. She also has the ability to make stars, has good synergy with Servants like Tamamo and can get off powerful crits easily.

Also, by the looks of it Suzuka at NP5 does something like 95% the damage of NP2 Alter. Not accounting for attributes.

I really don't care. Raf's argument was about full-buffed NP's which was a false statement, so I corrected him. Besides if you need Saber nuker, you're gonna take Rama instead of bothering with Saber Alter/Suzuka.

[Aozaki-desu]

So, has anyone ever tasted NP5 Alter? I'm just curious how great the base damage is

irrelevant

in JP version there are far superior AOE nukers for anyone to bother with Alter