Fate/Grand Order Story and Lore (CONTAINS SPOILERS)

[Iceblade44]

If that's the case, then God must have seen Solomon's desire to become human which lead to the whole Grand Order event. So in the end, he never really managed to shake himself off of God's influence. It might even be possible the rings left of the throne is God telling Solomon that his work is not done and he refuse to accept the rings back.

Well when it boils down to it we just don't know the motives of God are anyway yet. For a series that deals alot with divinity we haven't really seen much on Nasuverse opinion on him really. Other then the people with relation to God.

[Ran-Rii]

If that's the case, then God must have seen Solomon's desire to become human which lead to the whole Grand Order event. So in the end, he never really managed to shake himself off of God's influence. It might even be possible the rings left of the throne is God telling Solomon that his work is not done and he refuse to accept the rings back.

It would be a really myopic god that does not tell Solomon to destroy the pillars in the first place. After all, Goetia does say that the historical Solomon is the only Solomon that can defeat it.
Then again, god works in mysterious ways, etc, etc. I want a 4koma about God throwing the rings back into Roman's face.

[Sylphonia]

Maybe it was a necessary event

The pillars going out of control created Guda, allowed him to befriend every servant, and created a hero that would save the world from the beasts.

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Pretty much every instance of god letting bad thing happen in stories like this, is because preventing it would also prevent necessary or better thing from happening. Saving one would kill ten people down the road. Therefore the one had to suffer, so that more would be saved. The situation would still work out in the end, but something far greater would be created due to the momentary pain.

[rxrx]

It would be a really myopic god that does not tell Solomon to destroy the pillars in the first place. After all, Goetia does say that the historical Solomon is the only Solomon that can defeat it.
Then again, god works in mysterious ways, etc, etc. I want a 4koma about God throwing the rings back into Roman's face.

In a way, God let everyone gain something from this. He fulfilled Solomn's dream of becoming human and let Beast I learn the wonders of human life with mortality AND diretcted events so Beast IV can be defeated. After all, Grand Order sees the defeat of three Beasts in 1 1/2 year.

[Rafflesiac]

Light of Humanity is a pretty good name for the lore theme.

[Arha]

'Bestial nature' would be better than what you have now. Isn't that what writers normally go for when talking about that kind of thing?

[Ran-Rii]

In a way, God let everyone gain something from this. He fulfilled Solomn's dream of becoming human and let Beast I learn the wonders of human life with mortality AND diretcted events so Beast IV can be defeated. After all, Grand Order sees the defeat of three Beasts in 1 1/2 year.

With a preparation time of over 1000 years since the death of nasuverse's historical Solomon, yeah. But then again we shouldn't think too hard about what God does.

[You]

I thought he was returning his ring so it was kind of like a divorce? Idk i just can't get the Solroman marriage theory out of my head.

Camelot parallels

[rxrx]

With a preparation time of over 1000 years since the death of nasuverse's historical Solomon, yeah. But then again we shouldn't think too hard about what God does.

Agree. Sometimes things just get stranger when you think about it.

[hayate]

Actually, it's not strange if you compare the Bible and Jewish traditional stories, more notoriously the legend of the Lesser Key that he allegedly made for guides on magic invocations.

The problem comes in the fact that the Old Testament God of the Bible punishes Israeli people for dabbling in magic rituals (and New Testament God still condemns people who knew "Satan's deep secrets"), yet Jewish traditional stories accept Solomon's making of the Lesser Key and Adam meeting Lilith as legit history.

[Sylphonia]

God has infinite prep-time

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Story of Saul who came before David is an example of someone being punished for getting involved in magic or rituals instead of having faith.

http://biblehub.com/niv/1_samuel/28.htm

[Soulgazer]

Gods with more then one function are more likely to become irrational, based on what Enkidu explained. Monotheistic deities must have it tough.

As far as magic goes, before Solomon, only people who were servants of gods could use magecraft. I assume Solomon throwing the rings back in Gods face and deteriorating the AoG had something to do with the whole switch, plus we know Solomon was the one who made a magecraft humans could use.

Biblical Solomon was no perfect saint of God, either. He ended up seduced by some of his many, many, many wives into setting up cults and temples for pagan gods, leading to the destruction of Israel of the upteenth time after Solomon died.

[You]

Kingu

[rxrx]

Who knows. I mean it will be cool if God planned for everything, include the eventual deterioration and end of AoG as a form of trust in humanity, letting them reap what they sowed instead of governing over them.

[castor212]

am still not sure whether Erik can always talk all along eloquently even with ME, or its really just Gunnhildr lifting the ME for him at SOlomon

I know she speaks through him in his interlude but--

[Elish]

was it ever cleared up which 'God' is talking to Jeanne and Solomon, by the way? Or do we just assume it's Akasha because it's just sitting at the top.

[Master of Chaos]

Is this the right word here? It sounds off but I'm no jp reader.

I don't think it's a jp issue so much as MoC not being a native English speaker and therefore unaware that the common reading of that is going to be "fucking animals" and not man's inner beast.

Well, that's embarrassing. Seems that I was so worried in being faithful to the original meaning that I didn't pay enough attention to this kind of double meaning. I'll have that fixed, sorry.

I guess animality would work better?

And now I have this mental-image of Goetia suddenly turning into a dragon, or something similar that might appear on Mortal Kombat.

Anyway, if you guys can see any other issues, please feel free to tell me.

[Kyte]

Savagery is the word you're looking for

[Zurvan]

Beastliness maybe if you want to stay with the beast theme

[GDB]

was it ever cleared up which 'God' is talking to Jeanne and Solomon, by the way? Or do we just assume it's Akasha because it's just sitting at the top.

Well, Saint Martha apparently met Jesus Christ, so unless he's now the son of Akasha it's likely they spoke to the Christian God.