Thread: Fate/Grand Order Story and Lore (CONTAINS SPOILERS)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mizukume View Post
    Missed my point again. I said "heroic spirit summoning", not "heroic spirits".
    Which still presumably exists as well, thus my point? Grail Wars don't summon Heroic Spirits, they summon Servants. The World summons Heroic Spirits, which is the whole "takes seven to pet dog."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arashi_Leonhart View Post
    Which still presumably exists as well, thus my point? Grail Wars don't summon Heroic Spirits, they summon Servants. The World summons Heroic Spirits, which is the whole "takes seven to pet dog."
    The term used in the MB entry was "英霊召喚" so I'm not wrong when I said "heroic spirit summoning", it's in the translation mew did as well. "heroic spirit summoning" here is referring to "summoning heroic spirits as servants" duh.

    I was talking with the MB entry in mind the whole time but you took it as if I didn't know the difference between the world summoning heroic spirits and magus summoning servants from the reveal in London chapter lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arashi_Leonhart View Post
    Again, it's that Servants can't be summoned. Its just the reversal of Servants = No DAAs but DAs are still around; presumably you have DAAs and no Servants, but Heroic Spirits themselves are still around. It'd be very strange for Nasu to point out that seven guys that don't actually exist and can't be called are needed to restrain the doge that does exist.
    Are Guardians and HSes the same

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    Quote Originally Posted by rxrx View Post
    I guess the humans in Tsukihime lacked vitality and thus eventually died out due to sloth while the humans in Fate has too much vitality and thus accelerated their extinction.
    You'd lack vitality too if you kept getting your blood sucked
    Quote Originally Posted by FSF 5, Chapter 14: Gold and Lions I
    Dumas flashed a fearless grin at Flat and Jack as he rattled off odd turns of phrase.
    "And most importantly, it's me who'll be doing the cooking."
    Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
    Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
    Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.


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    i don't think Tsukihime humanity is going to die out since Arc seems to think they can still do the colonize the stars thing. It's just going to be harder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fallacies View Post


    一切をゼロにして死を癒すってアプローチ? 残念だけど、それ、とっくに試されてるから。
    The approach of overcoming death by reducing all things to zero? Sorry to say, but that's been tried before.



    冥界の鳥。たおやかなオシリスよ。そなたの理念は千年遅い。その妄念じゃ、古い“一”の考えだ 。
    O bird of the Underworld, graceful Osiris -- your thinking is a thousand years out-dated. Yours was also the delusion of the Ancient 'I'
    Aoko's Last Arc in Act Cadenza being called Retroflow/Light Year Genesis
    Holmes calling Goetia's plan Retroflow/Light Year Genesis in the new trailer

    http://forums.nrvnqsr.com/showthread.php/71-Night-of-the-TATARI-Wild-Mass-Guessing-and-What-if-s?p=2576447&viewfull=1#post2576447

    Dartz left too early

    Should have seen the potential Melty stuff what with Nightmare being a Melty x Grand Order x Extra thing.
    Quote Originally Posted by FSF 5, Chapter 14: Gold and Lions I
    Dumas flashed a fearless grin at Flat and Jack as he rattled off odd turns of phrase.
    "And most importantly, it's me who'll be doing the cooking."
    Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
    Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
    Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.


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    I've assumed since the reveal that the causality goes 'can't summon heroic spirits' -> 'humanity has less tools to fight vampires' -> 'humanity weakens and vampires become more powerful and influential' -> 'DAA becomes a thing'

    I mean, if you have access to heroes with known demon slaying feats, it'd be natural to call upon their assistance to deal with big vampire attacks. Especially in cultures where 'the venerated ancestor giving advice' is a thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mizukume View Post
    The term used in the MB entry was "英霊召喚" so I'm not wrong when I said "heroic spirit summoning", it's in the translation mew did as well. "heroic spirit summoning" here is referring to "summoning heroic spirits as servants" duh.

    I was talking with the MB entry in mind the whole time but you took it as if I didn't know the difference between the world summoning heroic spirits and magus summoning servants from the reveal in London chapter lol.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mizukume View Post
    Point is, if heroic spirit summoning does not exist in Tsukihime world
    What else am I supposed to believe when the term is so generalized and the phrasing does make it sound like you're implying all summoning?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kotonoha View Post
    Are Guardians and HSes the same
    I really wish we had a chart now to figure out placement for everything, since "throne" "rings of restraint" "wherever hassans and other candidates hang out" and stuff are all apparently in the same zone but different places and it would then point out all the different ways to identify the special snowflakes from the regular snowflakes and the janitor snowflakes.

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    So i've been thinking about First Order.

    Gudao in the end didn't do a whole lot in that Ova, but i suspect because he didn't do a whole lot in the storyline of the node.

    I know he takes a more active role in later stuff like doing a Suicide Dive on Quetz, Punching Goetia, Tricking Herc into the Arc of Covenant and whatnot.

    Does he personally do more stuff in Rome and Orleans?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayakashi View Post
    Remind me, how does the Dark Six fall into this. If it does?
    Don't think it does, aren't they only exclusive to Notes?
    "Only in my company, will you not be a monster"


    anywhere than here

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arashi_Leonhart View Post
    What else am I supposed to believe when the term is so generalized and the phrasing does make it sound like you're implying all summoning?
    Well I took it right from the MB entry so if anything just blame it. It's not like we've never seen servants being called heroic spirits before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JetKinen View Post
    So i've been thinking about First Order.

    Gudao in the end didn't do a whole lot in that Ova, but i suspect because he didn't do a whole lot in the storyline of the node.

    I know he takes a more active role in later stuff like doing a Suicide Dive on Quetz, Punching Goetia, Tricking Herc into the Arc of Covenant and whatnot.

    Does he personally do more stuff in Rome and Orleans?
    I thought you play FGO and you should knew those already?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iceblade44 View Post
    Don't think it does, aren't they only exclusive to Notes?
    You're thinking of the six sisters, the Dark Six is DA #1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mcjon01 View Post
    You're thinking of the six sisters, the Dark Six is DA #1.
    Oh yeah that, never really understood its purpose to be honest.
    "Only in my company, will you not be a monster"


    anywhere than here

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mizukume View Post
    Well I took it right from the MB entry so if anything just blame it. It's not like we've never seen servants being called heroic spirits before.

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    I thought you play FGO and you should knew those already?
    I can't read japanese, so a big part of my FGO experience was just skipping text, killing the nodes and waiting for someone to hopefully translate it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fallacies View Post
    Both involve consuming humanity to create a perfected world without death or tragedy. In Osiris' case, the deathless world was a virtual record of humanity.
    Well, creating giant supercomputer is not exactly the same thing as remaking Earth from the point of its creation. Also, Osiris was not concerned about death, she wanted to counter mankind's extinction as a species.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blastedspider View Post
    Also, Osiris was not concerned about death


    okay

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mcjon01 View Post


    okay
    I still can't read japanese.

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