Thread: Fate/Grand Order Story and Lore (CONTAINS SPOILERS)

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    A friend requested a translation of the demon combat lines in the Final Singularity, so here they are.

    https://chaldeum.wordpress.com/singu...combat-quotes/

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    my headcanon is that E = 1 ~ 10.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kareshy View Post
    I'd really hesitate to say "never" since Type-Moon but if I'm remembering right the scale that gave us A as 50 and E as 10 was an explanation of the general power tiers of Servants, and one of the things that was mentioned was that even the weakest of servants in a given field is above an average human. 1-10 are where most people would be.


    And then we have Maxwell's Demon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mewarmo990 View Post
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    my headcanon is that E = 1 ~ 10.
    It's been too long for me to say much in detail as to why, but I always thought 10 was the lower limit of what the container itself would be, so that said I don't have a strong reason to think that limit actually is 10.

    To make sure there's no misunderstandings as far as I know it COULD be 1-10. It being solidly 10 might well be my headcanon.
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    Now try explaining NP Range

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    I'm getting flashbacks to arguing with someone who thought the values were fixed, flat and unchanging. A = 50. All As are equal.
    That was a weird day.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zurvan View Post
    Now try explaining NP Range
    It's a mystery, and because it's a mystery it's super strong so don't think about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kareshy View Post
    I'm getting flashbacks to arguing with someone who thought the values were fixed, flat and unchanging. A = 50. All As are equal.
    That was a weird day.


    It's a mystery, and because it's a mystery it's super strong so don't think about it.
    No, you can definitely think about it! The range is the number of meters.

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    I'm not a nuclear weapons expert but 90 meters is probably not a safe range to fire a nuke.

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    Have you ever tried? I don't think you can say that with any certainty before you try it out yourself.

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    Kerry's second NP has a range of 0~2. So I assume that 2 is arm's length.

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    And Lancer Cu's Gae Bolg has 2-4, while his thrown version changes between fsn and extella from 5-40 to 40-50

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    Yeah, all sword NPs with melee effects are generally ranged 1 and spears ranged 2-4.

    For example, taking into Brahmastra Kundala with range 2-90, there's a reason it's starting from 2: it's the spear length, and the projectile is unleashed from the tip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zurvan View Post
    And Lancer Cu's Gae Bolg has 2-4, while his thrown version changes between fsn and extella from 5-40 to 40-50
    You expect the moon to have the same units of measurement?
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    No, no, you guys, its square. 0-2 is zero to two square away from where you are.

    If youre confused, look at the board and see the square pattern overlayed above the background artwork.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zurvan View Post
    And Lancer Cu's Gae Bolg has 2-4, while his thrown version changes between fsn and extella from 5-40 to 40-50
    Well, the spear is only that long for you to stab people with, so taking 4 at most is okay. The throw version, well, let's just say 5-50 sounds more correcnt since the latter would mean you can hit single digit number of people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kareshy View Post
    You expect the moon to have the same units of measurement?
    The Mooncell is on the moon, it's a computer simulation that's supposed to be the same as earth, so yes I do expect that.
    I also doubt the range of the other characters changed because lol we're on the moon.

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    I just assumed the servant container had lower and upper caps in stats so you couldn't actually go below E.
    But ME is a pre-cap bonus so you don't get a free rank from the cap forcing your shitty stat to E.

    Meanwhile in-combat modifiers are post-cap ('cause already summoned hue) so those Rank Up bonuses can pull it above A.
    Last edited by Kyte; January 8th, 2017 at 08:47 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clyton View Post

    For example, taking into Brahmastra Kundala with range 2-90, there's a reason it's starting from 2: it's the spear length, and the projectile is unleashed from the tip.
    that's not Brahmastra Kundala.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rxrx View Post
    Well, the spear is only that long for you to stab people with, so taking 4 at most is okay. The throw version, well, let's just say 5-50 sounds more correcnt since the latter would mean you can hit single digit number of people.
    I'm talking about Range, not number of targets though

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zurvan View Post
    I'm talking about Range, not number of targets though
    Must have misread, sorry.

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