Thread: Fate/Grand Order Story and Lore (CONTAINS SPOILERS)

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    Does anybody find it a little flimsy how EMIYA kept his personality pretty much intact after slaughtering god only knows how many people as a CG, but it was killing off a bunch of half-assed cultists that finally broke him?

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    11/10 would sit back and watch this epic clash.
    Where are you getting this information from? Neither Gugalanna nor Ishtar ever showed up in the Fuyuki singularity...

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoydGolden View Post
    Does anybody find it a little flimsy how EMIYA kept his personality pretty much intact after slaughtering god only knows how many people as a CG, but it was killing off a bunch of half-assed cultists that finally broke him?
    Not really since CGs are just killbots and aren't running at a level of cognition that lets them get all emo weepy about stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mcjon01 View Post
    Not really since CGs are just killbots and aren't running at a level of cognition that lets them get all emo weepy about stuff.
    Then how did OG EMIYA become full Emo from the job?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mcjon01 View Post
    Not really since CGs are just killbots and aren't running at a level of cognition that lets them get all emo weepy about stuff.
    While true, that still doesn't answer my question. Why did killing Kiara's cult as a CG affect him so much more then all his other killings combined?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoydGolden View Post

    Where are you getting this information from? Neither Gugalanna nor Ishtar ever showed up in the Fuyuki singularity...
    Not sure about Gugalanna, but Ishtar's body apparently came from the Rin in the Fuyuki Singularity or something along those lines.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoydGolden View Post
    While true, that still doesn't answer my question. Why did killing Kiara's cult as a CG affect him so much more then all his other killings combined?
    Assuming it's her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoydGolden View Post
    Does anybody find it a little flimsy how EMIYA kept his personality pretty much intact after slaughtering god only knows how many people as a CG, but it was killing off a bunch of half-assed cultists that finally broke him?
    I don't think of it at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoydGolden View Post
    While true, that still doesn't answer my question. Why did killing Kiara's cult as a CG affect him so much more then all his other killings combined?
    I don't see anything in his profile that says he did that as a CG.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mcjon01 View Post
    I don't see anything in his profile that says he did that as a CG.
    Admittedly, if he did it before contracting as a CG then it'd make a lot more sense for it to affect him so much...

    In fact, was it ever even confirmed that this version of EMIYA became a Counter Guardian at all? Maybe he somehow ended up selling his soul to Kiara instead of the planet...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laserman View Post
    Assuming it's her.
    Well, it's not confirmed but almost everyone agrees that it's the likeliest possibility at present.

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    Given how Emiya's life turned out, and ended with a noose, I can't really see how one cult could cause that much difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoydGolden View Post
    In fact, was it ever even confirmed that this version of EMIYA became a Counter Guardian at all? Maybe he somehow ended up selling his soul to Kiara instead of the planet...

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    Well, it's not confirmed but almost everyone agrees that it's the likeliest possibility at present.
    Read that first post of yours again and think about how it sounds.
    And who is almost everyone?
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    Quote Originally Posted by asterism42 View Post
    Given how Emiya's life turned out, and ended with a noose, I can't really see how one cult could cause that much difference.
    His inner eroge protagonist died after killing such a hot babe, leaving only steely EDGE in its place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by asterism42 View Post
    Given how Emiya's life turned out, and ended with a noose, I can't really see how one cult could cause that much difference.
    If you had to kill a bunch of dudes who just kept jacking off to their sex nun while you killed them you'd get pretty fucked up too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laserman View Post
    Read that first post of yours again and think about how it sounds.
    And who is almost everyone?
    What are you even talking about? And I mean almost everyone on this forum, plus various other sites I've come across online. Speculation about the mysterious woman being Kiara flooded in pretty much from the moment his profile was translated... Obviously it's not known for certain, but given what little has been revealed it's certainly fair as a best guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rafflesiac View Post
    His inner eroge protagonist died after killing such a hot babe, leaving only steely EDGE in its place.
    ...You might actually be on to something there. Emiya in any incarnation is a natural harem protagonist and it's noted that anyone who meets Kiara falls hopelessly in love with her (the Harway Plutocracy even once sent an asexual assassin after her, only to find they ended up falling for her as well). Combine those two factors, and it's extremely likely Emiya not only had to deal with the guilt of massacring all Kiara's followers, but killing a woman he loved as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mcjon01 View Post
    If you had to kill a bunch of dudes who just kept jacking off to their sex nun while you killed them you'd get pretty fucked up too.
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    What are you even talking about?
    I think your theories are a little out there if you catch my drift.
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    Palingenesis just sounds like we're creating Sarah Palin.


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    It's just part of his James Bond act. Don't look too much into it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magikewl View Post
    It's just part of his James Bond act. Don't look too much into it.
    My... James Bond act? Excuse me?

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    Quote Originally Posted by asterism42 View Post
    Given how Emiya's life turned out, and ended with a noose, I can't really see how one cult could cause that much difference.
    I thought this too. Whether it even mattered at all that Kiara's cult being involved was any different than suffering from CG work anyways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laserman View Post
    I think your theories are a little out there if you catch my drift.
    If you're curious, here's a Tumblr post on which I was basing my speculation of Emiya Alter contracting with Kiara instead of the Counter Force. I'm not going to pretend it's the most reliable thing in the universe, but it's cogently argued and raises some interesting points, especially regarding Alters as beings whose existences were corrupted by the wishes of another.

    In fact, that blog in general is pretty interesting, aside from the fact that it appears to be made by the world's biggest Cu Chulainn fan in the entire freaking universe... (Not exactly fond of our humble lair of beasts, I'm afraid)

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