Thread: Fate/Grand Order Story and Lore (CONTAINS SPOILERS)

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    Nightingale uses a gun

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    I for one hope that Koya's deal is not dumped in one moment but slowly revealed.
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    I for one hope that Koya's deal is not dumped in one moment but slowly revealed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arashi_Leonhart View Post
    WASHI JA
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    Quote Originally Posted by You View Post
    this makes 100% sense and not a meme because a few years ago nasu wrote up a blog post about how he bought a Wii U just so he could play Bayonetta 2
    Koyan said they spent a year preparing for this -> 2017 was filler for Nasu to prepare for part 2
    Koyan is Nasu.
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    She's doing a very bad job of hiding it... I mean she can even shapeshift lol.
    No not really, you are looking at it from the player's perspective, who had vastly more information compare to the ingame characters. Guda is slowly growing from just a SI into their own character, don't expect them to be as informative as us.
    I just want everything to be revealed in the next chapter then to get it done and over with.
    Is it because you don't like her character and want her to be out of the plot quickly eventhough it will be bad for the plot in general?

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    Quote Originally Posted by castor212 View Post
    I for one hope that Koya's deal is not dumped in one moment but slowly revealed.
    She's not gonna say everything obviously, she's Nasu. It will ruin her fun game. And she recognized Holmes as a problem too so I doubt she's gonna say anything out of the minimum neccessary to motivate Chaldea to continue the survival game.

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    Are u saying nasu is a qute gurl
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    Quote Originally Posted by rxrx View Post
    People forget Bob and Kerry uses guns despite being servants huh.
    Demiya and kerry used handguns. She's using a top of the line rifle with grenade launcher.

    Not even Anne, Mary and Drake used those things (and before they can argue that they use huge guns, it doesn't change the fact that those guns are antique. They also forgot Blackbeard uses cannons.)

    That's a big difference.

    The only other Servant that can hold a candle to that honor is Berserker Lancelot with an aircraft specs gatling gun.
    Not dealing with it...

    Why even try?


    This is golden...
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    Lol Ishtarin went full Aqua
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    I've seen people in this forum spend the GDP of a third world country into Grand Order
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    Yeah, there's a saying that you should strive for perfection knowing full well you won't achieve it. Saber looked at it and said "Hold my Beer"
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    And then all her friends resented her for it.

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    Moriarty's coffin has rocket launchers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zork Knight View Post
    Moriarty's coffin has rocket launchers
    Still ancient if it's old school RPGs from 1990s.

    ...

    Ah, right. Lancelot's aircraft specs gatling gun is from the 1990s.

    Hahaha.
    Not dealing with it...

    Why even try?


    This is golden...
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    Lol Ishtarin went full Aqua
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    I've seen people in this forum spend the GDP of a third world country into Grand Order
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    Yeah, there's a saying that you should strive for perfection knowing full well you won't achieve it. Saber looked at it and said "Hold my Beer"
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    And then all her friends resented her for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mizukume View Post
    No not really, you are looking at it from the player's perspective, who had vastly more information compare to the ingame characters. Guda is slowly growing from just a SI into their own character, don't expect them to be as informative as us.

    Is it because you don't like her character and want her to be out of the plot quickly eventhough it will be bad for the plot in general?
    Well, I can't say I like her even as a villain. Though I do wonder how she's able to move between Lostbelts when we need the Shadow Border to do it.
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    Bob the Builder's evil twin.
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    HF felt like Nasu holding up a megaphone and screaming, "LOOK AT HOW SAD THIS IS! ISN'T IT SAD? YOU SHOULD FEEL SAD!"


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    > Einzbern

    > Making smart decisions


    Pick one


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    Palingenesis just sounds like we're creating Sarah Palin.


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    >tfw you betray your ideals to get some


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    In short, Japan's syncretism BS striked again.

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    first class boyfriend
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    He's just putting the bone of his sword into other people until it explodes and lets out parts of him inside them.
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    Genderswaps are terrible, but I think I and other people would hate them less if Fate didn't keep ignoring actual heroines throughout history and folklore. Like, why bother turning Francis Drake into a woman when Ching Shih and Grace O'Malley exist?
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    Fate Zero is just Fate Stay Night for people who think Shirou is too girly
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    I think Alex IV can eat Goku.

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    Quote Originally Posted by asterism42 View Post

    first class boyfriend
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    Quote Originally Posted by david
    「えっ? 美しい君、君も羊飼いなのかい? 体つきは……ちょっと残念だが、顔がいいから、そこはアビシャグとしよう。おや、ほかにも美味しそうな料理 はあるのに、なぜお粥ばかり勧めるのかなぁ? いや、美味しいから食べるけどね? でも、妙に、まわりが煩いブヒねぇ」
    did they just
    gives David a line about Circe turning him to piggie in an event where he roleplays a piggie

    EDIT: just covering my ass but i legit dunno what to react on this
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    yes there's definitely something that's offensive about that
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    He's just putting the bone of his sword into other people until it explodes and lets out parts of him inside them.
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    Genderswaps are terrible, but I think I and other people would hate them less if Fate didn't keep ignoring actual heroines throughout history and folklore. Like, why bother turning Francis Drake into a woman when Ching Shih and Grace O'Malley exist?
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    Fate Zero is just Fate Stay Night for people who think Shirou is too girly
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    I think Alex IV can eat Goku.

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    Translation of Ivan's profile.

    Ivan the Terrible
    ―――ロシアの皇帝(ツァーリ)にして恐怖(テリブル)の怪物。
    そして異聞帯においては魔獣のような姿へと変貌し、神に近い存在となった男。
    それがイヴァン雷帝である。

    身長/体重:531cm・2548kg/山岳型魔獣との結合時の身長及び体重は不明。
    出典:史実及び異聞帯
    地域:ロシア
    属性:秩序・悪/混沌・悪  性別:男性
    秩序と混沌、どちらにも割り振られる。
    カルデアに登録された霊基は秩序側。

    ロシア最悪の暴君と謳われるだけあって、その苛烈さと残虐さは類を見ない。
    そしてその一方で、神に対してはひたすら敬虔な信者であった。
    そのあまりに相反する二面性は、真っ当な人間が許容できるものではなく、絶対的な権限を持った皇帝のみに許 された特権であっただろう。

    現代の知識によって自身の状況を弁えてはいるが、一般人であればこのサーヴァントを目視しただけで昏倒する だろう。
    姿形が怪物であるだけでなく、彼の持つ権勢があまりに圧倒的であるからだ。

    ○矛盾精神:A
    ロシアの皇帝として、中央集権政治を確立したイヴァン雷帝は同時に恐怖政治を敷いた。
    午前に罪を悔いて聖堂に籠もり、午後からは叛逆者に対する拷問を歓喜と共に行った。
    完全に聖人と兇人が同化したような精神は、ランダムに属性を二種類に変化させる。
    即ち秩序か混沌か、である。

    ○無辜の怪物(異):A
    人でありながら「神」と同等である存在と自称し、かつて権勢を誇った貴族たちを追いやったことで、その権力 は頂点に達した。
    ロシアは彼を絶対的な皇帝と敬い、西欧の人間は彼を「恐怖(テリブル)」と呼んで怯えた。
    凍土帝国における彼は、当時最強を誇った魔獣と結合することで、異聞帯ロシアを支配するに相応しい怪物とな った―――成り果てたのである。

    ○非常大権:A
    対立した貴族を支配するため、イヴァン雷帝が求めた皇帝への絶対服従権。
    周囲の人間への強烈な威圧感は、全能力のランクを下げる強烈な“重圧”の効果をもたらす。
    一般の人間であれば、目視することも難しい。
    ランクB以上のカリスマにより、打ち消すことが可能。

    『我が夢路に這い出よ黒犬』
    ランク:B 種別:対人宝具
    レンジ:領土内すべて 最大捕捉:3000人
    チョールヌイ・オプリチニキ。
    黒犬兵団。イヴァン雷帝が非常大権と共に導入した「親衛隊(オプリチニキ)」が変貌した宝具。
    オプリチニキとは、あらゆる貴族に対する財産、土地の没収などを行える権限を持つイヴァン雷帝の手足とでも 言うべき存在だった。
    黒衣を纏い、黒毛の馬に乗り、黒い馬具をつけ、馬の首には犬の頭をくくりつけた。
    同時に獣毛を箒状に編んだ鞭を持ち、「裏切り者に対しては犬のように襲い掛かり、箒で掃き出す」という意味 合いを込めたという。
    かつては寝食すら共にし、同じ屋根の下で暮らす共同体だった彼らは、いまやこの世に存在しない 。
    彼らが這いずるのは魔獣雷帝イヴァンの夢の中だけ。イヴァンが眠りに入ると発動する自動防御、 制圧宝具。
    そのまま無数の兵士たちの姿に分散し、彼に仇なす敵兵を鏖殺せんと奔走する。集団の暴力としては圧倒的であ るが、個々の力は弱いのが唯一の救い。
    ただし、首都モスクワ近辺では一体一体が低ランクサーヴァントに近しい力を持つ。

    『我が旅路に従え獣』
    ランク:A+ 種別:対人宝具
    レンジ:0 最大捕捉:1人
    ズヴェーリ・クレースニーホッド。
    神獣の十字行。皇帝がいずれ行き着く(と信じている)天上の国に向けての行進。
    つまり前に立ち塞がる者は皇帝への叛逆であり、それは即ち神への冒涜である。
    イヴァン雷帝は在りし日の巨獣状態を一時的に取り戻し、容赦なく敵を粉砕する。

    現在の人類史にいたる過程で「不要なもの、不要なゆらぎ(イフ)」としてそぎ落とされた“もしも”のロシア 、「その先は行き止まり(デッドエンド)なので歴史を打ち切る」と並行世界論にすら切り捨てられた永久凍土 帝国アナスタシアに君臨する皇帝。
    それがイヴァン雷帝である。
    サーヴァントとして蘇ったイヴァン雷帝その人だが、異聞帯の歴史においては世界最初のヤガとして存在してい る。
    彼の帝国に住まう者はみなヤガだが、それは人間の姿では、最早生きていけない過酷な環境だから だ。

    ただし、その過程で彼らは人間であったときに得た大切なものを失った。

    汎人類史におけるイヴァン雷帝は、暴君でこそあったが、魔術とは縁遠い存在であった。
    しかし、異聞帯において世界凍結の危機が迫ったとき、彼は魔術師たちを招聘。
    魔獣と人を結合させる技術を伴って、生き延びる道を求めた。

    しかしそれは、最早人間とは異なる生物を世界に産み落としたも同然であり、やがて精神も変容してしまった彼 らは行き詰まりの人類史―――剪定されるべき世界と認識されてしまった。

    慟哭は止まらず、雷帝は嘆きながら巡礼を歩む。
    Ivan the Terrible

    An emperor (tsar) of Russia and a dreadful (terrible) monster.
    In addition, a man who man transformed into a figure that is much like a magical beast and became an existence closer to a god in the Lostbelt.
    Such is Ivan the Terrible.

    As expected of the one regarded as the worst tyrant of Russia, his sternness and brutality are unprecedented.
    One the other hand, he was also a believer who was nothing but devout towards God.
    Such an excessively conflicting dual nature would never be tolerated on a decent human being, so it is probably a privilege permitted only for an emperor who possessed absolute authority.

    Although he understand his present circumstances by means of modern knowledge, an ordinary person would probably faint just by laying eyes on this Servant.
    This is not only because his figure is that of a monster, but also due to the power(1) that he possesses being too much overwhelming.

    The emperor who reigned over the Empire of Frozen Soil, Anastasia ― a "possible" Russia that was pruned as "something unnecessary, an unnecessary fluctuation (if)" during the process of reaching the present human history and discarded even from the parallel universes theory by "having its history discontinued, since anything beyond this would lead to an impasse (dead end)".
    Such is Ivan the Terrible.
    The one resurrected as a Servant is indeed that Ivan the Terrible, but he exists here as the world's first yaga from that Lostbelt's history.
    Those who inhabited his empire were all yagas, since it was already impossible to survive that harsh environment while remaining a human.

    Yet, something important that had been acquired back when they were still humans was lost in the process.

    While the Ivan the Terrible of the Pan-Human History was indeed a tyrant, he was an existence without any connections with magecraft.
    In the Lostbelt however, he invited the magi when the crisis of global freezing became imminent.
    He sought the path for survival that came with the techniques for fusing humans with magical beasts.

    However, that was the same as bringing to this world lifeforms that were completely different from humans already. So, when even their mentality ended up changing in the end, they were perceived as a human history that had reached an impasse――― a world that had to be pruned.

    His lamentations never-ending, the Terrible continues his pilgrimage even while grieving.

    Height/Weight: 531cm・2548kg (the height and weight from when he is fused with the mountain-type magical beast is unknown).
    Source: Historical fact and Lostbelt
    Region: Russia
    Alignment: Lawful Evil/Chaotic Evil
    Gender: Male
    He can be allotted to both the the Lawful and the Chaotic alignments.
    The Saint Graph registered with Chaldea is the Lawful one.

    Contradictory Mentality: A
    As the Emperor of Russia, Ivan the Terrible had both established a centralised authoritarian government and imposed politics of fear.
    He would spend the mornings regretting his sins while secluded in a church, just to gleefully torture rebels during the afternoons.
    The mentality that seems to have perfectly assimilated both a saint and a scoundrel randomly changes between two types of alignments.
    That is, Lawful and Chaotic.

    Innocent Monster (Divergent): A
    Despite being just a person, he self-proclaimed to be an existence equivalent to "God" and reached the summit of authority by driving away the nobles who boasted of power(1) in the past.
    Russia revered him as an absolute emperor, while the people of Western Europe called him "dreadful (terrible)" in fear.
    In the Empire of Frozen Soil, he became (was reduced to) a monster worthy of ruling over the Russian Lostbelt, by fusing with the strongest magical beast available at the time.

    Emergency Powers: A
    The right of absolute obedience that Ivan the Terrible demanded in order to rule over the opposing nobility.
    The intense intimidating air towards the surrounding people brings about a severe "heavy pressure" effect that lowers the rank of all abilities.
    Ordinary humans would find difficult to even look at him.
    It is possible to negate this by means of Charisma of B Rank or above.

    NOBLE PHANTASM

    Chyornyh Oprichnik - Crawl Out of My Dreams, O Black Hounds
    Rank:
    B
    Type: Anti-Unit
    Range: his entire feudal territory
    Maximum Targets: 3000 people
    Black hound corps. A Noble Phantasm that transformed the "elite guards (Oprichnik)" that Ivan the Terrible introduced along with the Emergency Powers.
    Possessing the authority to perform things such as seizing the assets, estates from all nobles, the Oprichnik were an existence described as the hands and feet of Ivan the Terrible.
    Clad in black clothes and riding black-haired horses with black harnesses, they tied dog heads around the necks of their horses.
    At the same time, they possessed whips of animal hair knitted in a broom shape, and supposedly those were given with the nuance of "swooping down on traitors like dogs and sweep them out with brooms".
    A community that once lived under the same roof, even eating and sleeping together, but they no longer exist in this world.
    They only creep inside the dreams of the Magical Beast Thunder Emperor Ivan. An automatic defence, suppression Noble Phantasm that is activated when Ivan falls into sleep.
    An infinite number of soldiers immediately scatters and runs about to exterminate enemy forces that do him wrong. Overwhelming in terms of group violence, the only saving grace(2) is that they are individually weak.
    Still, in the vicinity of the capital Moscow, each and every single one of them has a power close to low ranking Servants.

    Zveri・Krestny Khod - Abide to My Dreams, O Beast
    Rank:
    A+
    Type: Anti-Unit
    Range: 0
    Maximum Targets: 1 person
    A cross procession of divine beasts. A march towards the heavenly country which the Emperor will eventually arrive at (or so it is believed).
    In other words, to stand in his way is a rebellion against the Emperor and, consequentially, a blasphemy towards God.
    Ivan the Terrible temporarily regains the giant beast state of bygone days and mercilessly pulverises the enemy.



    (1) the term employed here is more often used to refer to political influence

    (2) from the enemy perspective, that is...

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    So as I thought Ivan can only summon his soldiers when he's dreaming from how the descriptor and title sounds. Well that's one up Darius has over him, alongside troop quality.
    "Only in my company, will you not be a monster"


    anywhere than here

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    so, what sort of authorities did Kadoc have via being a crypter and did Ivan have any via being the king of a lostbelt?

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    Ivan's third skill is basically that

    cadoc has a special form of command spell, crypter exclusive, but we dont know yet what it does
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