Fate/Grand Order Story and Lore (CONTAINS SPOILERS)

[asterism42]

What exactly is Das Rheingold?

Magic gold that originally belonged to the Rhinemaidens. It was stolen by the dwarf Alberich who cursed it when it was stolen from him in turn, it would bring only ruin and disaster to whomever possessed it, but they would covet it above all else.

[Iceblade44]

Oh god. I might have to get rid of that one quote in my sig. It's not their fault.

Depends, you have to ask, how did they get the treasure? And do they know what it is? Going as they are a mage family i think they do.

[castor212]

i mean, if its the Einzbern that we know of, theyre not actual mage family. Morelike zombie AIs.

They probably didnt knew any better.

[Iceblade44]

Magic gold that originally belonged to the Rhinemaidens. It was stolen by the dwarf Alberich who cursed it when it was stolen from him in turn, it would bring only ruin and disaster to whomever possessed it, but they would covet it above all else.

Actually that story is from Wagner's opera the Das Rheingold. In the Nibelungenlied Siegfried got it after killing two twin dwarf kings after they attacked him because he couldn't divide the treasure between them rightly.

[GundamFSN]

Probably still their for using it. Such is the inherent nature of Einzbern.

[castor212]

Opps forgot this

SF new NP line
Awaken from the dream of gold, and be released from the cradle. The evil dragon shall perish! Balmung!

[Iceblade44]

siegf lines
6) What happens if Im stabbed in the back? I'll die, of course. This is already a curse, a concept. However, I sometimes wonder. If every single parts of my body had been bathed in blood, would I have fallen into the evil dragon myself?
7) Holy Grail War... I regret of my fault and disgrace towards many. In particular, to Lancer of Black. At least now, being able to wield my sword together with him is my one consolation, my one atonement.
8) Das Rheingold... the accursed treasure. I had heard from a while ago, that now it is in the possession of alchemists hailing from Germany? If I am not mistaken, the name is.... Einzbern? It would be great if no curse had befallen to them, yet...
9) When I was alive, I had no wish that can really be said to be a wish. In that regard, I am like a wish machine. Now...? Now... my wish had already been granted. To protect Human Order. To protect others. To protect my Master. They are all... my wish.
10) Lancer of Red. We had once desired to settle it between us, but... It seems like you have someone else with a something to be settled first. In that case, then it seems I must wait in order.

(today I learn a new phrase
https://thesaurus.weblio.jp/content/身の縮む思い)

Anyway getting on to this. It's interesting seeing how Siegfried think he could have turned full dragon if he went full under.

His relationship to Vlad is the same as it was in the Mats but more detailed. Nice, wonder if that will get elaborated in the event.

Something with the Einzberns. They mist have that there for a reason, I wonder what the plothook will be.

Love the elaboration on his wish, that's just sweet.

Cool seeing that Siegfried is allowing Arjuna to get first shot at Karna. Really wish we get more of that, or a decent interaction between Arjuna and Siegfried

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Opps forgot this

SF new NP line
Awaken from the dream of gold, and be released from the cradle. The evil dragon shall perish! Balmung!

Lots of Rheingold allusions, nice.

[Strange_One]

Not knowing the legends, this just sounds very Unexpected Journey to me.

[Wandering Swordwoman]

Maybe that's how Tolkien got it

[SeiKeo]

Maybe that's how Tolkien got it

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2...-and-the-rings

[Reign]

According to my google translate skills, JP Twitter is saying that Einzberns having the Rheingold was foreshadowed in SN? I don't recall that scene.

[castor212]

what

can u link me

[canaki]

This?

[Iceblade44]

Is it talking about how Einzbern had alot of gold? I always took that in them being an alchemist family then anything else.

[Reign]

Searching ラインの黄金 and アインツベルン has a lot of people talking about it. https://twitter.com/search?q=%E3%83%...83%B3&src=typd

I saw someone post a screenshot of Kirei saying something too, but I can't read moon.

Edit: Here, this tweet.

[castor212]

i really, really dont remember kirei (mapo tofu) saying that

also the second line is in hanafuda apparently Illya had that as hougu

i wouldnt know becuase i skipped the hanafuda section lol

[Kyte]

I bet the dress of heaven is spun from rhinegold or something.

[canaki]

Twitter is also :thinking: at Olga's dad wishing for wealth on a grail made from Rhinegold.

[castor212]

MOTHERFUCKER

"…First of all, the Holy Grail is not a cup that received the blood of God. It was based on a magical pot passed down from ancient times.
You should know about it if you are a magus.
Utopia. It means 'an unreachable place' in Greek. It is said that an omnipotent vessel exists there.
And there were magi who tried to reproduce this omnipotent vessel."


"They were the three families: Einzbern, Makiri, and Tohsaka.
They spent many generations researching the ritual to reproduce the omnipotent vessel and completed it two hundred years ago.
That was the first Holy Grail Warthe ritual that summoned the omnipotent vessel to the artificial Holy Grail to open up the path."

"Einzbern…? You mean, Ilya's family?"

Q
"Yes. The Einzberns specialized in 'the golden rule of the line'. They were the best suited to make an imitation of the Holy Grail.
But they cannot summon the Holy Grail with just that.
They need a suitable land and a strong curse.
The ones who provided these were the Tohsaka and the Makiri."

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「ラインの黄金」の伝承に長ける
　　　聖杯の模造品作成を担当

IT WAS THERE ALL ALONG

[Iceblade44]

So wait what is made of the RhineGold? the Lesser or Greater Grail?