Thread: Fate/Grand Order Story and Lore (CONTAINS SPOILERS)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iceblade44 View Post
    I'm not saying that the possibility is to it is zero. It's just that now that we know that there is now a category for local folktales and the restrictions they have I just don't think we will see it unless they do some phantom tinkering like in Shinjuku, so i doubt we would see it just as itself. Now say they make it a Lobo situation with the ship as a mount for another phantom, now that i can see.
    Honestly they'd go full Pirates of the Caribbean but have Phantom Davy Jones fused with Phantom Flying Dutchman and the Dutchman is in control of Jones
    Quote Originally Posted by FSF 5, Chapter 14: Gold and Lions I
    Dumas flashed a fearless grin at Flat and Jack as he rattled off odd turns of phrase.
    "And most importantly, it's me who'll be doing the cooking."
    Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
    Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
    Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.


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    Phantom Flying Dutchman fused with Phantom Davy Jones fused with Alter Ego Cthulhu

    Deep sea, deep lore

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mizukume View Post
    Did you just miss my point again? Because I was also saying this, it's what I referred to as wank.
    No you were saying a conglamtion of ghosts similar to Jack, which I disagree with. I can't see that happening for their case personally. I'm also not considering what I'm saying as wank. Because wank is taking something already and increasing it beyond it's level. While a Lobo situation isn't just them as their selves but as an addition to something else thus the power is increased that way. This is probably just how I see it but if two seperate things are made into a new Servant it isn't wank to me because it makes sense they be more powerful because it's two sets of abilties in one, while something like Scathach or even Gilgamesh really is just taking what they originally were and just amplifying way beyond that. That is wank to me. If that seems confusing that is because that's just how I define it personally, which Is why I considered what your suggestion different from what i said. Tho really it is cool if you just want to call it semantics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arashi_Leonhart View Post
    It's not deep lore without jokes and gameplay
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mizukume View Post
    Pretty certain those are just bunny girl slaves.
    New HC: Columbus's bunnies are Pinta and Nina shipgirls
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobin View Post
    It's tough to get a grasp on the differences in strength there's supposed to be between ship NPs. Didn't seem particularly distinct to me during Okeanos.
    In Okeanos and in Salomon really there we're some comparisons. For one thing when Teach had his original Servant crew the ship was so hard that the Bond's cannons couldn't damage it and in Salomon without Hector Eric said those two ships were equal. The Argo on the other hand was immune to cannon fire naturally so I'd think it be higher then Drake's but that's not taking the the ghost fleet into account so I don't know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zurvan View Post
    Phantom Flying Dutchman fused with Phantom Davy Jones fused with Alter Ego Cthulhu

    Deep sea, deep lore
    Or just generic ghost ship fusion perhaps? Flying Dutchman/Mary Celeste/Ourang Medan/Lady Lovibond/Carroll Deering/Palatine etc etc
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    He's just putting the bone of his sword into other people until it explodes and lets out parts of him inside them.
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    Genderswaps are terrible, but I think I and other people would hate them less if Fate didn't keep ignoring actual heroines throughout history and folklore. Like, why bother turning Francis Drake into a woman when Ching Shih and Grace O'Malley exist?
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    Quote Originally Posted by asterism42 View Post
    Or just generic ghost ship fusion perhaps? Flying Dutchman/Mary Celeste/Ourang Medan/Lady Lovibond/Carroll Deering/Palatine etc etc
    They gattai into a megaghostship

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    like the megazord
    Quote Originally Posted by FSF 5, Chapter 14: Gold and Lions I
    Dumas flashed a fearless grin at Flat and Jack as he rattled off odd turns of phrase.
    "And most importantly, it's me who'll be doing the cooking."
    Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
    Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
    Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lobo View Post
    Read kogetsukan 4, the plot reminded me to Agatha Christie's Crooked House, I don't trust Lorrie anymore
    An Agatha "The Queen of Crime" servant would be nice

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    Thanks for the summary, and yeah that's Columbus (when you can't say the name 'cause EoR true names hiddens, the writers must get creative)
    That Jason tease though lol
    Thing is, timeline wise we arent supposed to know anything about colombo yet

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    Quote Originally Posted by You View Post
    It's the materialization of the copy of a soul (record) or the soul itself that you summon.
    It's the general term for Servant, basically.
    Like how the common term for Crimson Red Vermillion is Ancestral Return.
    Actually Holmes description makes me sure its a fancy name for eirei and not for servant
    Ghost Liner. Belt of boundary record. Superior spirit status that is the Heroic Spirits, connected to the Human Order. Among the, say, CLock Tower classification of spiritualism magic or more commonly known as sumonning art, even the technique that momentarily borrow a part of such a terrifying power is extraordinarily hard to do
    First part describing ghost liner, that is eirei, second describing servant summoning.

    Also didnt Sanda asked Nasu for a fancy term for eirei and was given ghost liner?

    Tell me if im wrong tho
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iceblade44 View Post
    In Okeanos and in Salomon really there we're some comparisons. For one thing when Teach had his original Servant crew the ship was so hard that the Bond's cannons couldn't damage it and in Salomon without Hector Eric said those two ships were equal. The Argo on the other hand was immune to cannon fire naturally so I'd think it be higher then Drake's but that's not taking the the ghost fleet into account so I don't know.
    Can't really express myself well, I was aware of Teach's crew power up but descriptions of the boats otherwise make it difficult to discern what's so special about each one than just having high defense, canon power etc, since they still get treated as regular seafaring vessels otherwise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by You View Post
    They gattai into a megaghostship

    like the megazord
    Nice. More Kaiju battles like Avi's golems & the Tsar.

    Which we then kill as usual by Phantasm shin kicking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpoonyViking View Post
    Flying Dutchman. Only known. Because of frakking SpongeBob.
    I have no words.
    Quote Originally Posted by Rafflesiac View Post
    Well, it's true.
    Arguably the most famous ghost ship in the Western hemisphere... known only because of a children's cartoon and a Disney movie? Really? WTF!? I had read ghost stories featuring the Flying Dutchman as a child, long before SpongeBob was a thing. It's practically a trope to invoke the name of the Dutchman during any ghost story that takes place at sea. In fact, I'm pretty sure TV Tropes actually uses the Dutchman as the trope namer for stories about ghost ships that forcefully add people to the crew and just plain ghost ships in general.

    Quote Originally Posted by RoydGolden View Post
    I could see the Flying Dutchman/Vander Decken as a pretty powerful Servant. The curse binding his soul to the ship for eternity could work like Ramesses' immortality, making him unkillable unless you destroy the entire ship first. Another interesting idea would be to have the ship itself be the Servant and possess its Master into acting as its "captain".
    Now that I could see. I had read multiple stories involving the Dutchman, but didn't learn about Vander Decken until years later.

    Quote Originally Posted by asterism42 View Post
    New HC: Columbus's bunnies are Pinta and Nina shipgirls
    Yes. Just... yes!

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    Quote Originally Posted by G-Man View Post
    Arguably the most famous ghost ship in the Western hemisphere... known only because of a children's cartoon and a Disney movie? Really? WTF!?
    I'd dispute "only", but the publicity from Disney and cartoons is nothing to sneeze at during the time television was one of childhood's biggest pastimes.
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    I can't believe the Flying Dutchman is actually a real thing.
    It's said to have been an old superstition since the 1700s. Dozens, if not hundreds, of stories are based on the premise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by castor212 View Post
    Actually Holmes description makes me sure its a fancy name for eirei and not for servant


    First part describing ghost liner, that is eirei, second describing servant summoning.

    Also didnt Sanda asked Nasu for a fancy term for eirei and was given ghost liner?

    Tell me if im wrong tho
    where does holmes describe it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FSF 5, Chapter 14: Gold and Lions I
    Dumas flashed a fearless grin at Flat and Jack as he rattled off odd turns of phrase.
    "And most importantly, it's me who'll be doing the cooking."
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