Thread: Fate/Grand Order Story and Lore (CONTAINS SPOILERS)

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    So it's implied that the real reason Holmes got there that fast is because if Elementary, My Dear, right? It guarantees every mystery must be solvable, after all, and if the PoV dies it can't be solved.

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    Other than pulling a twist as poor in taste as what Umineko did, it was an alright story. The only clue you need once Holmes vouches for Hawthorne is Chris.
    I'm not quite sure how you see a major plot point (if you make assumptions based on the characters' appearances you will get it wrong) that was explained to us, and even demonstrated in-story right at the very start with us mistaking Morris for a cross dressing woman, as a plot twist made in "poor taste" (do issues concerning fraternal twins being mistaken for their mothers due to hallucinations on the part of the beholder somehow offend you on a deeply personal level?), but sure...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Altaris View Post
    As long as it's not hot garbage like Conan it's readable in my book
    Aoyama considers Conan to be a "Murder rom-com" manga, of course it's garbage as mystery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by canaki View Post
    Aoyama considers Conan to be a "Murder rom-com" manga, of course it's garbage as mystery.
    Worse, this is why it's garbage in general ...

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    Pls don’t shittalk my childhood

    Conan is garbage because glaciers melt at a faster pace than its story and lol of course Aoyomaw would say that

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    Speaking of Conan, I remembered playing a GameBoy game of it when I was little. Suffice to say, I couldn't beat it because

    1. It's in Japanese
    2. I played the minigames instead

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    Wasn't there a game that features the crossover between Kindaichi and Conan? But the name Conan always remind me of Arnold.

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    I'm surprised Detective Conan is still alive frankly. I gave up on it like two years ago, and the fact that it still hasn't ended probably proves the plot is still moving at a snail's pace.

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    One can say Conan is another example of the theory saying Detectives are the true bringers of calamity & deaths with how ordinary laymen suddenly turn into "criminal masterminds" whenever there's one around the area.

    Also amused by the idea that from how long its been running, Japan's population keeps dropping in an alarming rate w/ all the extra complicated murders per arc/episode/chapter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oz1337 View Post
    I'm surprised Detective Conan is still alive frankly.
    The new movie beats the box office of Avengers Infinity War in Japan lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Altaris View Post
    As long as it's not hot garbage like Conan it's readable in my book
    Hey, Conan was good the first 500 chapters!

    it only took me until chapter 828 to put the gun to my head and leave forever

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    What even constitutes good mystery

    i dont actually read much mystery and doesnt have a strict bar
    The Encyclopedia Brown and Boxcar Children books.
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    i actually bingeread conan everytime my friend told me theres something substantial happened with the blackies

    which is like every 200 chapters or so i think
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    I watched some of the show whenever it was on TV early in the morning and I thought what I watched of it was pretty entertaining. I can't speak for someone who's read the manga though.
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    Isn't Conan basically made for younger children? I know that doesn't automatically mean adults can't enjoy a story, or that said story can't be surprisingly deep, but it seems a little strange to be judging a "mystery" series aimed at elementary school kids by the same standards as mystery stories aimed at adults.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laserman View Post
    I watched some of the show whenever it was on TV early in the morning and I thought what I watched of it was pretty entertaining. I can't speak for someone who's read the manga though.
    If the manga drags on, the anime drags ten times more. Basically the same as Naruto, filler chapters for the whole purpose of selling more DVD/BD later.

    Quote Originally Posted by G-Man View Post
    Isn't Conan basically made for younger children? I know that doesn't automatically mean adults can't enjoy a story, or that said story can't be surprisingly deep, but it seems a little strange to be judging a "mystery" series aimed at elementary school kids by the same standards as mystery stories aimed at adults.
    There's murder, theft, kidnapping and other crimes. Even Conan himself gets shot in his child form. So yeah, this isn't for children.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oz1337 View Post
    If the manga drags on, the anime drags ten times more. Basically the same as Naruto, filler chapters for the whole purpose of selling more DVD/BD later.



    There's murder, theft, kidnapping and other crimes. Even Conan himself gets shot in his child form. So yeah, this isn't for children.
    Conan is indeed kids anime in Japan. it might get rate PG in other countries though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by G-Man View Post
    I'm not quite sure how you see a major plot point (if you make assumptions based on the characters' appearances you will get it wrong) that was explained to us, and even demonstrated in-story right at the very start with us mistaking Morris for a cross dressing woman, as a plot twist made in "poor taste" (do issues concerning fraternal twins being mistaken for their mothers due to hallucinations on the part of the beholder somehow offend you on a deeply personal level?), but sure...
    Because I find it to be boring, simple as that. A twist that doesn't serve to engage a reader is a twist that shouldn't be written. I'd have enjoyed it more if it were Medusa instead of Raikou representing Eva, as it would show how first impressions can be wrong while still showing why it's important that Gudako sees everyone as they do.
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