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    What's with the frogs?
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    HF felt like Nasu holding up a megaphone and screaming, "LOOK AT HOW SAD THIS IS! ISN'T IT SAD? YOU SHOULD FEEL SAD!"


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    > Einzbern

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    Palingenesis just sounds like we're creating Sarah Palin.


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    >tfw you betray your ideals to get some


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    In short, Japan's syncretism BS striked again.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Laserman View Post
    What's with the frogs?
    She is a overgrown sea serpent

    snakes eat frogs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobin View Post
    So just what is Okita Alter? I haven’t seen anything cover her backstory and all the info I see about her further confuses me
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    From her profile, tan skin and white hair, I'm guessing she's AU Okita that didn't die of tuberculosis, became a true master swordsman and made a deal with the CF.
    I believe JetKinen is correct.
    Her profile

    Though, all that stuff about how she's an existence meant to manifest and act only once seems weird considering her Bond CE. I interpreted her Bond CE as her endless, lonesome job for the CF, including the sword gaining sentience after being used for so long. Confusing, but maybe the event's epilogue and her locked profile section will clear this up.

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    Ryoma and Oryou are cute
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    He's just putting the bone of his sword into other people until it explodes and lets out parts of him inside them.
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    Genderswaps are terrible, but I think I and other people would hate them less if Fate didn't keep ignoring actual heroines throughout history and folklore. Like, why bother turning Francis Drake into a woman when Ching Shih and Grace O'Malley exist?
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    Lostbelt 1 Summary: Section 16
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    Peace, Peace!!

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    Maybe the new alter ego missing in the game code? Since it just a side of Nobu's personality in Nobukatsu
    (And it'll also be a reference to the recent reveal that Nobukatsu was originally design by Pako as male Nobunaga)
    oh god why?!

    this is christmas!

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    I was expecting something more outlandish tbh

    Okita's circumstances don't seem dire enough to me that she'd make a contract with CF. Wait for spoiler I guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobin View Post
    Okita's circumstances don't seem dire enough to me that she'd make a contract with CF. Wait for spoiler I guess.
    that's more anime logic
    i probably would if i had tbc
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    That's exaggerating my point.

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    I mean my real understanding of this is that this is post-koha/ace and once Okita became Okita Alter there she instantly went through the "ideal maximum" path that Okita could possibly had and thats who we get in Grand Order.
    Like she says she has barely any memories of it because she was essentially created on the spot as the adult being that killed Neo-Fuhrer

    But thats the understanding of someone who can't understand japanese

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    Also she died a sad death of tuberculosis.

    I can see she forming a pact while terminally ill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobin View Post
    I was expecting something more outlandish tbh

    Okita's circumstances don't seem dire enough to me that she'd make a contract with CF. Wait for spoiler I guess.
    Her greatest regret is not being able to fight to the end with the Shinsengumi, and her wish is to be able to do it, I can definitely see her making the contract.

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    I wonder if anyone has ever said no though.
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    > Einzbern

    > Making smart decisions


    Pick one


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    Palingenesis just sounds like we're creating Sarah Palin.


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    >tfw you betray your ideals to get some


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    In short, Japan's syncretism BS striked again.




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    My understanding of that flashback during the fight with Regular Okita was that she was sick as a kid and her sister prayed to Amida to save her which resulted in the world going lol k but she has to work for me one time after death though

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    Like Koto says, Hijikata notes that Okita's sister once told him Okita almost died from her sickness during childhood and manage to survive miraculously. Ryouma muse that the Counter-Force might have forced her into contract in exchange for a chance to live and has come to collect the debt and use her as a one-time bomb to deal with the 1945 crisis we are facing now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laserman View Post
    I wonder if anyone has ever said no though.
    Well that depends. Who initates the contract? The World or the Counter Guardian?

    Also this does answer something I've seen asked before. Why do we not see Heroic Spirits, these people with great regrets don't make deals more often? Well they can it seems, just it's not really gonna make a difference.
    "Only in my company, will you not be a monster"


    anywhere than here

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    So, if CG OKITA is destined to disappear from the throne of heroes, would she also disappear from the moon cell's records?

    (I guess I can ask a similar question for Solomon)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iceblade44 View Post
    Well that depends. Who initates the contract? The World or the Counter Guardian?

    Also this does answer something I've seen asked before. Why do we not see Heroic Spirits, these people with great regrets don't make deals more often? Well they can it seems, just it's not really gonna make a difference.
    It's just seeming more and more like a deal with the devil, but instead of having your soul damned for all eternity, you become the World's janitor for all eternity. These people do not understand what kind of deal they've made until it's too late.
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    > Einzbern

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    Palingenesis just sounds like we're creating Sarah Palin.


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    >tfw you betray your ideals to get some


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    In short, Japan's syncretism BS striked again.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Laserman View Post
    It's just seeming more and more like a deal with the devil, but instead of having your soul damned for all eternity, you become the World's janitor for all eternity. These people do not understand what kind of deal they've made until it's too late.
    Okita's case is do or die, while people like Shirou and Ryouma was given a choice at least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpoonyViking View Post
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    My problem with the comet speed NP, though, is that while Achilles had Swift-Footed as one of his epithets, and while Homer does use different adjectives for his speed than for that of others... Well, swift-footed heroes aren't really rare in mythologies around the world, so what makes Achilles worthy enough of having his speed as a Noble Phantasm as opposed to others?
    Ah back to this, just hit me so I wanted to give a reason why, no not a reason but to just put stuff into perspective. As for what I'm talking about is this, this isn't the first time an NP has been based on a purely adjective writing of praise and glory that has been applied to many heroes. Gate of Babylon.

    Gil's whole skill-set, abilties, even character are all based on a simple phrase from his epic that was only there to say this man is just an awesome king, it's pretty much a throwaway line and yet it's a large part of his character. Achilles is the same, his stuff on his speed is only there to describe how good this man was, but they took that and made it into an ability, tho comparably its at least better then Gil. Now why they did these things? Mostly because it's interesting but I also think it's because they are supposed to be big and amazing heroes, which Is why they take these descriptions and exxagerating it into things much larger, because simply that's what's heroes all about really, there supposed to exxargerations so they took that and worked it futher. Basically for me I'm fine with Achilles having comet-speed because at least it's not the anywhere near as a change that happened with Him. It's a consolation but its still something.

    Also about the immortality thing, I want to say it's not as simple as reality and legend for Achilles case, because simply there are no reality to him. Even if you want to take the Illiad as a reality it to is just a myth, it's not anymore real then the legends the Romans wrote even if it's older, because even Homer was just passing down stories, he never fully witnessed the battle of Troy for himself after all. How much of it is original or what he added to make a narrative we have no idea. So yeah in Achilles case it's not a case of mixing reality with legends, but just the mixing of different legends. Because ultimately no matter how many specks of truth it may have, it is just a story. That's how I see it anyhow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rxrx View Post
    Okita's case is do or die, while people like Shirou and Ryouma was given a choice at least.
    Ah Ryoma is still a guardian? What did he ask for?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iceblade44 View Post


    Ah Ryoma is still a guardian? What did he ask for?
    Not specifically said yet, but Ryouma mentioned his case when he was offered the deal. He can choose to say no but will not suffer as dire consequences as Okita did. In addition, Okita was just a child when the deal is offered, so it is also not a fair comparison.

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