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    Quote Originally Posted by 8000 View Post
    "Genocide" is a big overstatement. He fed on people because he needed energy.
    Isn't this like a normal thing servants that aren't super honerable do?

    Like, I didn't get the impression anyone but Saber and EMIYA were completely above using that tactic in the original FSN.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelp24 View Post
    Odysseus got demonized? Circe being mad about him ditching her isn't really demonizing him.
    Menelaus also apparently only married Helen because of some prophecy or other and was an abusive husband.
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    It's like with centaur girls, you're fucking a horse. Sure the human part is the one that moans but your dick is in the horse, no way around it.

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    because she was the Priestess of the Moon Goddess and her husband was destined to reach Elysium or something yes.

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    Columbus's profile after finishing his interlude explains that his wish to the grail is fortune and joy. He treats his master as a business partner, and any who allows him to make his fortune happily is a good master, while one who is nosy about morals and ethics is a bad master. He responded to Chaldea's summoning since he understand that money takes the back seat if there is no human foundation left, but he will indulge in his desires if he has the chance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rxrx View Post
    Depends on which ver. of the myth is used. But seeing how Jason and Perseus is, I'm pretty pessimistic about the characterization.
    The only versions that demonize Odysseus are Roman sources because they blamed him of Troy's fall by dishonorable trickery, missing the whole point of the original.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mizukume View Post
    A lostbelt where Nero did not die and became some buffed god is entirely possible my dude. Even if she might potentially a Beast candidate, that doesn't mean she's always Beast or can't be a king in some ridiculous lostbelt of sort. Point is, don't rule out things just becuz you think it won't happen.
    I didn't think you were commenting on the possibility of one of the Kings being a Beast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Megas View Post
    Isn't this like a normal thing servants that aren't super honerable do?

    Like, I didn't get the impression anyone but Saber and EMIYA were completely above using that tactic in the original FSN.
    Medea avoided outright killing people IIRC.

    Servants wouldn't usually feed because it's not super effective and it takes way too many non-mages to get reasonable energy (which is why Shinji went for Bloodfort). Perseus is incarnated and doesn't need as much mana so it's fine for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yokushi View Post
    The only versions that demonize Odysseus are Roman sources because they blamed him of Troy's fall by dishonorable trickery, missing the whole point of the original.
    I think some ver. has him banged Circe and decides to dump her while some has him stay true to his wife for the whole ordeal returning home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rxrx View Post
    I think some ver. has him banged Circe and decides to dump her while some has him stay true to his wife for the whole ordeal returning home.
    Yeah but all Greek heroes do stuff like that, and we should not talk about Irish heroes who do worse. Also even the Nasuverse version of Circe is said to be a witch of temptation with a tendency to fall in love and become deeply jealous, so I don't think her PoV of the affair is very objective.

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    Did Hijikata end up in Breast Valley because he was ogling Passionlip's rack? Also how does she get people out of there anyways? You'd think it'd be by pulling them out, but she doesn't really have the right joint placement for that, so does she squeeze them out instead?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rafflesiac View Post
    Did Hijikata end up in Breast Valley because he was ogling Passionlip's rack? Also how does she get people out of there anyways? You'd think it'd be by pulling them out, but she doesn't really have the right joint placement for that, so does she squeeze them out instead?
    BB helps in getting people out. She is playing trickster mentor here and like Lips says: Playing the role of mother too late and at the wrong timing even.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rxrx View Post
    Columbus's profile after finishing his interlude explains that his wish to the grail is fortune and joy. He treats his master as a business partner, and any who allows him to make his fortune happily is a good master, while one who is nosy about morals and ethics is a bad master. He responded to Chaldea's summoning since he understand that money takes the back seat if there is no human foundation left, but he will indulge in his desires if he has the chance.
    I read that he uses his EX Luck to clean out a casino
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    He's just putting the bone of his sword into other people until it explodes and lets out parts of him inside them.
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    Genderswaps are terrible, but I think I and other people would hate them less if Fate didn't keep ignoring actual heroines throughout history and folklore. Like, why bother turning Francis Drake into a woman when Ching Shih and Grace O'Malley exist?
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    so she’s ugly boring and bad truly a triple threat your fav could never

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    Quote Originally Posted by asterism42 View Post
    I read that he uses his EX Luck to clean out a casino
    According to the interlude, no matter what he does, his luck will lead him to fortune in one way or another.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 8000 View Post
    The Perseus described in HA was apparently a wimp. The one from Prototype isn't, and Gorgon's line for him pretty much confirms they aren't the same person.
    it does not confirm anything
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    you don't need to think about it that hard
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    I dont get it
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    nothing makes sense

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    Quote Originally Posted by rxrx View Post
    According to the interlude, no matter what he does, his luck will lead him to fortune in one way or another.
    Makes sense, considering how incompetent he is at basic geography.
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    He's just putting the bone of his sword into other people until it explodes and lets out parts of him inside them.
    Quote Originally Posted by AvengerEmiya View Post
    Genderswaps are terrible, but I think I and other people would hate them less if Fate didn't keep ignoring actual heroines throughout history and folklore. Like, why bother turning Francis Drake into a woman when Ching Shih and Grace O'Malley exist?
    Quote Originally Posted by Magikewl View Post
    so she’s ugly boring and bad truly a triple threat your fav could never

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    Medb, d'Eon, and Chiyome, now there's a group I never thought I'd see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by asterism42 View Post
    I read that he uses his EX Luck to clean out a casino
    well that didnt exactly happened

    more like Sheba fears that with Columbus, no matter what she does to him he's gonna affect the economy in a gargantuan way
    he has the "aura of money backing him"Guda was like yeah i totally get you, damn EX rank luck
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    Quote Originally Posted by 8000 View Post
    The Perseus described in HA was apparently a wimp. The one from Prototype isn't, and Gorgon's line for him pretty much confirms they aren't the same person.
    I mean, all this really says is that is what Medusa thinks of him.

    Medusa is probably kinda biased against the person who killed her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Megas View Post
    This is starting to sound like some projection of personal preferences on to TM because I didn't find Columbus terribly likeable and didn't get the impression I was supposed to
    he's totally not likeable

    which is great because we now get somebody who 's just plain bad guy, even in our side
    at least for me
    even his interlude paint him in a slightly good manner, only to show in the end that looking from another view its just as bad
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    Quote Originally Posted by Megas View Post
    I mean, all this really says is that is what Medusa thinks of him.

    Medusa is probably kinda biased against the person who killed her.
    Medusa doesn't even hate him. She just pities him.

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