Well making a part 1 clear requirement for a story only event like this would‘ve sucked super bad. So eh, just don‘t think about it i guess.
Well making a part 1 clear requirement for a story only event like this would‘ve sucked super bad. So eh, just don‘t think about it i guess.
"An ideal is only an ideal after all. As long as you embrace that ideal, the friction with reality will continue to increase. So you will someday face reality and will have to pay for your compromises"
You can't deny that sometimes Nasu makes stupid decisions and suggestions. This is the guy who think Penguin King's Instinct is perfect and shouldn't be upgraded until DW eventually decides to screw him. Even the skip NP is not there because TM says it is not suitable for the game.
To be fair, Holmes' habit doesn't give him extra charge bars on a three-turn NP chassis.Originally Posted by ItsaRandomUsername
shit BL says
Once and always and nevermore.
haha Salazar is no different than Teach, he's just good looking guy.
Hey about part 1, about Mashu's death. We get Goetia's thought or Solomon's?
Spoiler:
Wandering on internet
he must be so annoyed
Wow, really? I completely missed that.
It honestly doesn't matter as Holmes being in Romani's Chaldea is unthinkable.
https://www.reddit.com/r/FGOGuide/comments/bpv50n/the_study_of_the_confounding_crying_phoenix_villa/
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Apparently, not only does Joan recognize Jeanne as her sister, but Jeanne also has a bit of an obsession with cannonfire. (Archer Jeanne when?)
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We already have her...?
They really like using Jeanne Alter to give details on what kind of person her big sis was like in life.
BL Character Defining Lines
Not surprising, considering artillery was the hot new shit at the time, and she worked with two of its major innovators at the time, the Bureau brothers.
Dang it, Napoleon.
Not dealing with it...
Why even try?
This is golden...
Who better to give the audience the gritty details of Jeanne's life than someone who was supposed to be an exaggerated evil version of her, created by someone who was right alongside Jeanne for most of her campaign?
A common theme with the saints in FGO is that they all seem to think that, as saints, they must portray themselves as almost flawless and perfectly good, with often not-so-subtle hints that, no, they were real people with real flaws (though said flaws are something goofy, like Martha being a delinquent).
Kind of wish they would implement Ziska, if only because Jeanne all but called him out in real life (and both loved using artillery fire), and it'd be interesting to see if she still wanted to challenge him as a Servant, but it's probably never going to happen outside of a fan work like Empire of Dirt.
Oh yeah, Jeanne did have words for the Hussites in general. Ah well, everyone can't be perfect.
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Zizka should be either a Rider or Archer with a wagenberger as his NP.
'Jeanne escapes execution and the church instead tries to get rid of her by siccing her at the heretics in Bohemia, and her faith is tested as she engulfs the already wrecked Europe in a war of utter exhaustion' is the Singularity that FGO did not deserve.
Feat. Avenger Zizka, Archer Jeanne (all about artillery and stuff, more of a tactician, more of a grounded person compared to the saint and the edgelord)
That said, this is an actual alternate history thing with magic added into it, rather than a bunch of drivel that sidesteps all possible research with dude magic, which is what all the singularities are. As in I'd love to turn this into like a fic eventually or something but I feel like by doing research and being true to history, I'd be making it unlike FGO
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I dunno. I think Ruler!Jeanne would be better thematically to face off against Zizka, especially since both were quite fanatical in their opposing devotions to God and Scripture.
That'd mean staining the premise of Ruler Jeanne as the pure and blameless saint of Mark Twain, who did her job without prejudice, did not doubt her purpose, and accepted her fate of a martyr without complaints.
Dealing with Hussites is much tougher theologically, because she'd be inevitably explained the background of it in detail, and would have to deal with the moral implications of it. Thing being that the Hussites were pretty much totally justified in their stance against the Church, but their methods were destructive and ruthless to the point of making them pretty much professional banditry down the line. Of course, if not for that, they wouldn't have repelled four crusades, but fact stands that the central Europe missed out on renaissance and had its population reduced by more than half by just how savage the war was. By the end of it nobody in Bohemia tended to fields because everyone needed to take up arms, and so they got food by raiding Germany and Austria, wherin nobody tended to the fields because what's the point, right?
So Jeanne would have to reconcile the purity of her faith with the concept of a Church itself. While dealing with these jackasses was probably the right thing to do, it wouldn't have escalated to this point if the Church wasn't arrogant, and all in all, the result of resolution with force was inevitable: except that the Empire did not expect to actually lose, over and over and over, holding onto sheer petty arrogance until the end.
It presents a deep historical conundrum to a character that is shallow - or rather, pure, a saint, an icon, more than a real person. By having her deal with it, she would have to become not shallow, and this would pretty much make our ol' Ruler Jeanne a different character entirely. So, I propose making her yet another character: Jeanne as the girl who became a warrior, who is not a saint for all the carnage she wrought, but who is not a cartoonish villain either. Jeanne as the person she most likely really was in the first place.
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Zizka himself wasn't very big on religion at all, by the way, but it was a pretty helpful thing for him to unite people - and he certainly did hate the Church. Much rather than being a religious leader, he bore the spite of folk towards the Church on his shoulders. His main class is obviously Rider and I don't think he was physically strong enough to be anything else, but he'd definitely qualify for Avenger, imo.
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