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Thread: Fate/Grand Order Story and Lore (CONTAINS SPOILERS)

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    Does it even mean anything to defeat a Beast?

    Is humanity now without Pity, Lust, Regression, and Comparison? Or are they just kaiju with fancy backstories?
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    Humanity’s Evils may be evil, but they are something that will never be exterminated. They will always return as long as humanity exists. And mankind must overcome them – that’s the kind of development I was going for. And I want the players to understand that once they face the final battle together. And the development team managed to understand that as well – the feeling of putting the heart of the story first before commercial reasons. I think FGO is a blessed game in that aspect.

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    So "yes kaiju with fancy names, and they even come with a built in excuse for coming back in the sequel"
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    Well if you look at what them are in the story, it's kinda forgiven
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deathhappens View Post
    So "yes kaiju with fancy names, and they even come with a built in excuse for coming back in the sequel"
    Killing the body of a demon lord and killing its concept are 2 different things.
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    Excuse me? I hope you aren't referring to me with that remark. I fail to see how me explaining why the average Joe fails to appreciate how dangerous Kama and Kiara were makes me a jerk.
    No, I wasn't talking about you.
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    In short, Japan's syncretism BS striked again.




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    Then who were you talking about my rude man

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zurvan View Post
    If all you care about regarding the Beasts is their powerscaling then I'm sorry
    you mean people dont think of Tiamat as the missing link between Nero Chaos, Grail Mud and Sakura and as a way to understand the abilities of all 3 to a greater degree and dont view Goetia as a walking treasure trove of Magi lore and timelock worldbuilding?
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    It does mean that, but not literally.
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    Literally none of this addresses my complaint. What we see in the story IS all there is of him. A footnote in a side material book saying "oh btw that's totally not his real self" is irrelevant to the way he's presented in the game.

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    Yes, something like that

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    The Beast I actually want to see in link with Nrvnqsr is four numbers above Tiamat.

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    Then who were you talking about my rude man
    Most likely
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    I cannot wait until beast nero becomes a disappointment (looking at you Kama the crybaby )
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    Quote Originally Posted by Comun View Post
    The Beast I actually want to see in link with Nrvnqsr is four numbers above Tiamat.
    I got very confused because when you said "above" I didn't count up, but counted up the list so to speak, so was trying to think of whether you were implying an underflow or you wanted to see Beast -2
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    Ah carry on then

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    But i thought Goetia was permanently erased by roman?


    here is a list of my servant sheets(new and improved format for my servant sheets)

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    Nah, Goetia has resistance to that as a Beast.

    However, the methods it employed and the body it used as a base were compromised by Romani's NP.


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    Another thing to consider with Beasts is, character-wise, even if powerlevels have nothing to do with this, if they become playable afterwards they end up becoming yet more of Cardboard-kun's groupie waifus (no Beast husbandos yet), and thus will lose more of what many perceive as their 'edge' and character punch.

    The main real reason why everyone wants a playable Tiamat is because they don't have her (well, DUH!). But if they ever have her odds are she'll become just another Kiara in terms of public perception afterwards; someone who, okay, is there and retains a sizable fandom of their own, but ultimately has become just yet another Servant subserviant to Cardboard-kun no matter how many 'threats' and 'adeats' surround her.

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    Although there's also the bit where Kiara and BB are the only Servants that have outright Bad Ends in their valentine's scenes. So that's something, at least. (I'd probably expect Mara to have something similar next year, but who knows.)

    Then again, those are also both pre-existing characters rather than new ones like Tiamat, Goetia or Mara.

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    I mean at best you'll just get more Kiara/Kama style Beast Servants, like (maybe) Caster KoHumans Goetia or Berserker Tiamat. Dunno why that is somehow more appealing then the datamined guys or new surprises from FGO like Avenger Nobu or Ashwatthama or William Tell.

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    Just going to leave this here.

    Nagao Kagetora (after change)
    毘沙門天の化身を称し、義という人の理を範として人を守護せんとした景虎であるが、人としてあまりにも強く 生まれてしまった故に、か弱き人というものを解すことは生涯叶わなかった。

    人の悲しみや怒りなどの感情の機微も理解できず、唯一笑うことでのみ周囲との折り合いをつけてきた景虎であ るが、その超然的な振る舞いや言葉を受けた家臣達はやがては景虎を恐れ、それは転じて狂信的な信仰へと転化 してゆく。そうして景虎は、より人ならぬ神仏のごときものとしての生き様を強いられることとな った。

    そんな景虎にとって戦場での命のせめぎ合い、相まみえる瞬間の生と死こそが人としての何かを感じる唯一の時 でもあったのだ。

    その超然たる生き様は死後、彼女を軍神として神の座へと奉ることとなった。それは彼女にとって果たして本意 であったのかどうか、もはや知る由もない。

    ―――毘沙門天ぞ是にあり
    Calling herself an incarnation of Bishamonten, Kagetora endeavoured to protect the people as an example of the human principle called morality. But due being born with too much strength for a person, in her entire life, she never managed to understand the existence called 'weak humans'.

    Unable to comprehend the subtleties of human emotions such as sadness and anger, Kagetora achieved a compromise with her surroundings by means of smiling alone. However, the retainers that were struck by her transcendental​(1) words and conduct eventually came to fear Kagetora, and that fear gradually changed into a fanatic form of faith. Thus, the even more inhuman way of life of gods and buddhas was forced upon Kagetora.

    For such Kagetora, it was only possible to feel something as a human being during the deadly conflicts of the battlefield, the instants when life and death met.

    After death, that transcendental​(1) way of life caused her to be set up in the seat of gods as a war god. There is no longer a way to know if that was her original intention or not.

    ―――Bishamonten is here.



    (1)can also be translated as 'detached' or 'aloof'
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