Fate/Grand Order Story and Lore (CONTAINS SPOILERS)

[mami-kouga]

I don't see what difference it would make. Goetia was nothing more than a hivemind for the 72 demons, so they were only allowed to truly become individuals in EoR, after the Goetia connection crumbled. We last saw them in a point where Flauros=Goetia, so their off-screen development wouldn't change whether Romani 2 is the empty hive or an individual.

Mostly because of our last meeting with Goetai prior to this, when he was "human" for a while

[Bobin]

I guess it only works if you assume Flauros developed uniquely amongst the pillars from his time as Lev all the while and made it a personal goal to oppose humanity not only because it was made his purpose. Which is sorta what I'm getting at since he's awfully talkative and expresses individual belief I don't know if you can solely attribute to being part of a hivemind, especially during Solomon where he acts the same regardless of the connection being severed.

It's all anecdotal proof though since I've got nothing else to back it up beside feeling like it's the only other possibility that exists besides the obvious Goetia/Romani no-brainer.

[fumei]

I've seen this before with a bit more thought put into it

- After the end of F/GO 1 Nasu posted on his journal, releasing a bunch of information about the story. Relevantly in this case, he revealed that Flauros was the only Demon God who independently developed emotions early on, empathized with humanity and acknowledged them as enemies where the others did not (which is why he's constantly antagonizing you) and was the one of the Seventy-Two that had doubts in the plan and wanted Shielder's approval. He was the one who refused to give up at the end.- Flauros is the most important Demon God of the lot story-wise even discounting that, and last we see him in Salomon is still in a state of confusion about the choices humans and Heroic Spirits made, and Gilgamesh urges him to ask about it. According to Kirschtaria, the objective of the one from Chaldea was to investigate the humans of each Lostbelts. This doesn't seem to make much sense for Human King Goetia since he'd found the answer.
- Moonlight/Lostroom shows that someone came to the throne after the collapse of the Time Temple and picked up one of the Ten Rings that were left there.
- Kirschtaria mentions Lev shortly before the one from Chaldea appears to stop him. As a writer this seems to me like a way to nudge the reader's memories of a character that hasn't been mentioned in a while but is still relevant.
- The fact that he's called "from Chaldea" to begin with points toward Flauros rather than Goetia, since Goetia never even set foot in Chaldea, whereas Flauros was one of its creators.
- In the latest Lostbelt the one from Chaldea lists off the past Lostbelts and waves them away. At the start of the Time Temple, Flauros lists off the Singularities and laughs them off (except the Seventh, which he didn't find funny).
- The Human King seemingly shouldn't have the power to travel between Lostbelts, since Goetia had lost all his powers by that point. Also the one from Chaldea is explicitly not a Servant and Solomon/the Human King's body crumbled.

But I don't really buy it. It has too many holes, and like Comun says, it doesn't really make much of a difference compared to Goetia. The only thing which this does for me is instill some hope that it could still be something other than just Goetia back from the superdead in Roman's body or whatever, since there are enough holes in that theory to fill with stuff like this.

[Bobin]

Yeah, those would be the reasons why the theory feels convincing, thanks.

I just don’t know what other possibility exists that the explanation for isn’t more reaching or an unforeseen development.

[fumei]

I don't know either, but at this point I'm more interested in the "traitor" within chaldea than about "Romani". Especially since, going by what they said in Atlantis, we probably won't see the latter more in Olympus.

[Wandering Swordwoman]

If it was just some random chaldea staff, it'll be a bummer

[the god of world-0]

They will probably pull a Romani and the traitor is actually somehow helping us.

[neveron]

I think it'll probably be Flauros just because he's an actual character rather than Goetia's "mirror"? I'm not sure that you'd get anything out of Goetia that you wouldn't also get out of Flauros.

I wouldn't be surprised if his ascensions were Romani>Solomon->Goetia, though. (Assuming that he gets into the gacha to bait the whales, that is.)

[Lelo]

I thought Goetia stopped being a "mirror" and became his own person at the end (the whole "King of Humans" thing)

[Gray]

Did we get any details on the Space Knights of the Round in Saber Wars 2? Specifically Space Bedivere?

[Comun]

I don't think the Dark Rounders were even mentioned in SW2.

[Kamera]

I wouldn't be surprised if his ascensions were Romani>Solomon->Goetia, though. (Assuming that he gets into the gacha to bait the whales, that is.)

would make more sense if it's the reverse

[neveron]

I don't think the Dark Rounders were even mentioned in SW2.

I think the Dark Rounds might have been mentioned in passing as one of the previous threats from prior seasons or something? I don't think it was more than an offhand mention, though.

[the god of world-0]

would make more sense if it's the reverse

From a Lore perspective maybe, but from a design perspective is better to start simple and get incrementally more complex. Imagine how disappoint it would be starting with Goetia's rad design and putting a lot of work just to change into Romani's bland ass portrait.

[the god of world-0]

Actually, now that i think about, Goetia already kinda have a 3 stage ascension. It goes Solomon disguise > Demon King > Human King.

[Kamera]

Duh, redesign Romani to wear Solomon's outfit

[the god of world-0]

Huh, that could work actually.

[Menwearpink]

Nah final ascension Lev

[the god of world-0]

Weasel face?

[madarra]

Speaking of Lev, any reason Flauros woule be stuck wearing a Romani suit rather than a Flauros suit? Besides Romani actually tugging at heartstrings?