Thread: Fate/Grand Order Story and Lore (CONTAINS SPOILERS)

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    Quote Originally Posted by rxrx View Post
    Funny how Columbus and Wu Zetian seems the better written characters because they are mostly copy and paste from history books.
    It's hard to say about some servants if they would have been better if they went full myth though, as tamamo was just mean in the myth I dont exactly recall much personality beyond that.
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    also why is caladbolg on fergus lily is Caledfwlch Caladbolg - The Ultimate Spiral Sword instead of his older version of Caladbolg - Rainbow Sword

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    is it cuz the artifact thingy we got
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    Quote Originally Posted by castor212 View Post
    so arjuna has, what, 2 interlude that actually strengthen him

    and karna has 1 that gives 1 qtz

    :thinking:
    Awarded Hero vs Hero of Charity. Make sense. Arjuna is awarded with buffs, while Karna offers us quartz for the trouble.


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    Clairvoyance (Archer) huh...wonder what's the lore behind it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by castor212 View Post
    so arjuna has, what, 2 interlude that actually strengthen him

    and karna has 1 that gives 1 qtz

    :thinking:
    Well, Karna is a good AoE Lancer. Arjuna is lagging in the AoE Archer department.

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    David's interlude is pretty nice. Explains his attitude and how he wants his son to remember him as a hero and not as a king.

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    Quote Originally Posted by castor212 View Post
    also why is caladbolg on fergus lily is Caledfwlch Caladbolg - The Ultimate Spiral Sword instead of his older version of Caladbolg - Rainbow Sword

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    is it cuz the artifact thingy we got
    Not having read the chapter and being a filthy secondary who can't read Japanese...

    Caledfwlch is an old Welsh name for Caliburn (and, in turn, Excalibur). However, Caledfwlch is also basically the Welsh cognate of the Celtic Caladbolg, both of which seem to mostly just have been a generic word for "sword" at some point.
    So it's basically just an alternative name of sorts, probably just different from Big Fergus' NP because they wanted a unique NP for the Lily counterpart but also wanted him to be recognizably the same.

    It might also be a Saber Lily reference, I guess? Maybe? Or just something like the various Excalibur variants out there.

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    if someone can give me a tl;dr of Jeanne Alters interlude

    much obliged

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    no u see if they bother at giving him different np name thats just going to make more hopeful at fergus lily going to gacha
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    Maybe Roland will show up in the Swordsman Tournament. Then again, Apo has already started we're still waiting for Achilles.

    Kinda expecting him to have Eternal Arms Mastership.

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    Hm Roland's clothes are too poofy, doesn't really appeal to me.

    Also interesting how the design of Durandal is mostly similar to the original design from Stay Night rather than Hector's.
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    Maybe Durindana was reforged to add the four relics from the Song of Roland? That way it gets to keep both origin stories.

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    Arjuna's second interlude is wonderful lore stuff. It actually completes Arjuna as a character.

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    can u tldr it
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    Quote Originally Posted by castor212 View Post
    can u tldr it
    Simple Summary:

    Spoiler:
    Arjuna face his own darkness, admitting that he was the one who decided to shoot Karna at the back. Krishna wasn't the guy pulling his chariot and was separated from him during battle, this Krishna is just a personality made by Arjuna to hide his negative emotions and he used his best friend's name for convenience. By admitting this and face his own weakness, Arjuna grow as a person even though he is dead, and he thank Gudao sincerely and express that it is great to have know him/her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rxrx View Post
    Simple Summary:

    Spoiler:
    Arjuna face his own darkness, admitting that he was the one who decided to shoot Karna at the back. Krishna wasn't the guy pulling his chariot and was separated from him during battle, this Krishna is just a personality made by Arjuna to hide his negative emotions and he used his best friend's name for convenience. By admitting this and face his own weakness, Arjuna grow as a person even though he is dead, and he thank Gudao sincerely and express that it is great to have know him/her.
    thanks!

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    on nice

    thanks alot, forreals
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    Quote Originally Posted by rxrx View Post
    Simple Summary:

    Spoiler:
    Arjuna face his own darkness, admitting that he was the one who decided to shoot Karna at the back. Krishna wasn't the guy pulling his chariot and was separated from him during battle, this Krishna is just a personality made by Arjuna to hide his negative emotions and he used his best friend's name for convenience. By admitting this and face his own weakness, Arjuna grow as a person even though he is dead, and he thank Gudao sincerely and express that it is great to have know him/her.
    Thank you so much. Stories like these are very nice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elish View Post
    if someone can give me a tl;dr of Jeanne Alters interlude

    much obliged
    Spoiler:
    We were playing cards with Caster Cu and Billy when Jalter comes in the room.
    Jalter says we need to go deal with a yet to be singularity (which doesn't show up on sensors, confusing Mashu and Da Vinci), and takes us to France. (Billy asks Geronimo to go instead of him)
    We deal with vengeful ghosts, who turn out to be the innocent people that lived there before the Orleans singularity happened.
    So basically, we're cleaning up by making sure the innocents who were killed stay peacefully dead, instead of haunting places and killing innocent mortals passing by (and losing their innocence).
    Geronimo points out that while the Jalter who did this to them is already dead, and our Jalter is a separate person, we need to consider why Jalter is an Avenger now. Does Jalter really want to help with restoring human order? Or is she just using her position to have fun?
    Jalter wants to know that herself, wondering if she will enjoy her revenge, and that's why she brought us here. As she expected, killing the ghosts of her victims was not fun at all.
    Geronimo asks again, because she surely knows she will not be saved even if she helps the ghosts by killing them.

    Jalter's reply to this was too good to tldr. (This reminded me a lot about her talk on avengers in Shinjuku.)

    "What about being saved? I know I'll just keep on running, there is nothing at the end.
    I'm fine with that. I'm that kind of being.
    I'm not here to repent for my sins, to be saved.
    I'm here to make sure you win your battles.
    I won't forget that.
    No matter what, I won't forget that."

    So we keep on cleaning up, and we reach the castle, where we fight a pesky giant ghost.
    Who turns out to be Charles VII.
    Jalter discusses how she killed his people again, how she couldn't let any other heroes or anti-heroes do this instead of her.
    They are all dead because the past her killed them. She won't justify what she did, or repent. She will not take punishment for it, or enjoy.
    She will do this because this is her duty.
    The king says they will all keep on hating and cursing her, but wonders how she won't do so.

    Jalter then explains to us how the king opened a retrial for her- no, Jeanne D'Arc, 18 years after Jeanne's death.
    How he made people testify about how Jeanne was a good person who fought for them.
    She briefly wonders if Jeanne, unlike her, will be delighted to know her honor was restored after her death, but then again Jeanne didn't even care about how people thought of her in her life, so maybe not.

    After all this cleaning up, Geronimo tells Jalter that she made sure the right conclusion happened, and while she could've let other people do the work instead, she didn't.
    The reasoning and pride behind those actions prove how she is, indeed, a rightful servant.

    TL;DR: Jalter proves she is a servant worthy of being a part of Chaldea, and tells us she's here to make sure we win.

    I took screenshots of the important dialogue, if anyone would like to check whether I'm explaining anything wrong.
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