Fate/Grand Order Story and Lore (CONTAINS SPOILERS)

[BeastXxx]

Good grief. It's a poor habit of this universe to try and create its contents.

Is this said by Olga's VA?

[AmADo VII]

I cannot wait until beast nero becomes a disappointment (looking at you Kama the crybaby )

she was the closest Beast to finish MC though.

also making Tiamat as standard won't be good.

[Oz1337]

" 一 I leave my tea urn 'Sawahime' to my Lord. But you gotta go all the way to Uji to pick it up.

一 I leave my elevated tenmoku teacup also to my Lord. 'cause I wrote a note in it.

一 Mother, if I die, go get some money with my Lord and move to Kyoto. Senchiyo, my heir, you stay serving my Lord as you always did.

一 Don't even think you can have the Kanayama Castle. Just let my Lord give it for some more compentent to handle it.

一 My women, just leave and go to your families' homes.

一 I leave my tea sets and katanas, all this stuff I don't need anymore, to Senchiyo. I left notes in all the other itens, so send all of the person named in each note.

Oh, one more thing, my treasured short-sword is all the way in the Hon'ami household in Kyoto, so I leave it to Senchiyo.
My daugther Kou, get married to a big city merchant or a doctor, not to a samurai.
Mother, you must live in the Capital. Must.
Don't let Senchiyo inherit the Kanayama Castle even if you gotta kill him for it.

Ah, just remembered it. Just in case, JUST IN CASE, if we horribly lose this war, you all must burn my castle and have a nice death, everyone together.

1584　March 3rd, morning　　　　musashi

is what seems to be written in Nagayoshi's will. His last days were, indeed, a mess.


'What do you think, Master? I'm a real family-loving guy, ain't I?'"

Thanks for the translation. What a mess of a will, but it fits him quite well.

[AmADo VII]

Mori-kun had bunch of crazy lore. not just Nobunaga even Hideyoshi gave up on controlling him.

[G-Man]

she was the closest Beast to finish MC though.

also making Tiamat as standard won't be good.

It doesn't matter that she technically did better than any of the other Beasts... save Kiara, mind you. Kiara actually finished off the MC and would have won if not for time-travel shenanigans, so she's the most successful Beast if we go by that metric.

All anyone will allow Kama to remember is her completely undignified behavior in defeat. Never mind that Kiara's defeat wasn't all that dignified either. I believe Kiara was basically screaming, "It's not fair!! I was going to win!! I didn't even finish getting off!!" or something like that, IIRC. Not to mention glorious Beast-ahegao... yeah.

[AmADo VII]

It doesn't matter that she technically did better than any of the other Beasts... save Kiara, mind you. Kiara actually finished off the MC and would have won if not for time-travel shenanigans, so she's the most successful Beast if we go by that metric.

All anyone will allow Kama to remember is her completely undignified behavior in defeat. Never mind that Kiara's defeat wasn't all that dignified either. I believe Kiara was basically screaming, "It's not fair!! I was going to win!! I didn't even finish getting off!!" or something like that, IIRC. Not to mention glorious Beast-ahegao... yeah.

so what do you think of Beast actually? we just got example not all Beast are willing to become one.

we should not treat Beast as Kaiju for now.

[neveron]

she was the closest Beast to finish MC though.

also making Tiamat as standard won't be good.

I dunno, Kiara actually managed to kill MC before Melt did her time travel shenanigans. (Which is kind of directly analogous to how Kiara sends you back to the beginning of Ooku, I guess.)

For whatever reason, the Beasts that aren't fully manifested have a better track record against the MC. I guess you could chalk it up to having to demonstrate their danger within the limited confines of an event where you can't have them incinerate humanity for a year and a half or flood the map screen and kill/mutate all your favourite NPCs? You have less space to hype them up and less characters for them to endanger, so you directly endanger the MC.

[asterism42]

Beasts that haven't fully manifested are more dangerous because they haven't triggered the planets 'throw Grands at this' condition but they're still hella powerful

[Dragolord09]

https://www.reddit.com/r/FGOGuide/comments/cd6jmg/all_nobunagas_attack_gudaguda_final_honn%C5%8Dji_2 019/

https://www.reddit.com/r/FGOGuide/co...%C5%8Dji_2019/

https://forums.sufficientvelocity.co.../post-12745804

[Wandering Swordwoman]

Beasts that haven't fully manifested are more dangerous because they haven't triggered the planets 'throw Grands at this' condition but they're still hella powerful

True. You can't count on counter force to react, so expect no grand servant, and you're against some divine being with just 3 servants

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she was the closest Beast to finish MC though.

also making Tiamat as standard won't be good.

Isn't Tiamat supposed to be equivalent to Gaea? Since she was also the mother of god and goddess also mother of monsters

[AmADo VII]

True. You can't count on counter force to react, so expect no grand servant, and you're against some divine being with just 3 servants

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Isn't Tiamat supposed to be equivalent to Gaea? Since she was also the mother of god and goddess also mother of monsters

I mean we should not assume all Beasts are Tiamat tier of scale and power.

[G-Man]

I mean we should not assume all Beasts are Tiamat tier of scale and power.

Problem is she's the very first Beast we ever encountered, followed soon after by the big bad of the very first major storyline.

Tiamat and Goetia are tough acts to follow (I barely count Fou, since we never actually fight it, so we can't rate it as a threat beyond lore). When powerhouses like them are our introduction to Beasts, it's only natural that our expectations remain high.

Otherwise, it's like kicking DragonBall Z off with Vegeta as the opponent right out the gate, somehow letting Goku and the others miraculously defeat him, and then making Raditz the final boss of the Saiyan Saga. You can point out how Raditz is stronger than the heroes too, and even let him come closer to winning than the Saiyan Prince did, but he's still going to look like a disappointment next to Vegeta.

[Zurvan]

If all you care about regarding the Beasts is their powerscaling then I'm sorry

[Lily Emilio]

As I already stated in my rant back in question topic, nowadays people can't comprehend any type of "power" beyond how much a character can destroy, especially those functions on concepts and requires conceptual means to defeat. It's too hard to grasp compare to big beamus or a kaijiu for people.

[asterism42]

PoWeRlEvEl DiScUsSiOn

[Rafflesiac]

Does it even mean anything to defeat a Beast?

Is humanity now without Pity, Lust, Regression, and Comparison? Or are they just kaiju with fancy backstories?

[Gold Experience]

Considering non of them are actually gone? Probably "just a setback"

[AmADo VII]

regarding Ooku, ppl tend to forget/not care about Parvati being India's strongest waifu.

[Laserman]

My question is why even respond to that jerk? All he does is try to provoke people and nothing else.

[G-Man]

My question is why even respond to that jerk? All he does is try to provoke people and nothing else.

Excuse me? I hope you aren't referring to me with that remark. I fail to see how me explaining why the average Joe fails to appreciate how dangerous Kama and Kiara were makes me a jerk.