Thread: Fate/Grand Order Story and Lore (CONTAINS SPOILERS)

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    this event will be BS if there isn't single Tokugawa character appearing.

    btw Ryutan's lord was Iemitsu.

    lol someone saying the guy surrounded by Sakura (supposedly Iemitsu) looked sick because he's gay.
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    Well there’s still a chance of a wellfare at least, since this event really would be underwhelming without one.

    Oh and speaking of muramasa, while i find the way people expect him for every banner has been annoying even if i do eant him, i did just think that he does feel like he’d fit as a wellfare. Less because of all ‘Hints’ in the announcement people have been going around saying, but because of his design.

    Since his design is based on a CE, i can’t think of how they’ll go from that. So the one form of a wellfare would suit him. Or in other words without sugarcoating it, since they were lazy enough to not come up with a new design in the first place, making two more variation seem unlikely.



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    Just wait and see Muramasa make a brief cameo by the end. Continuing the wait further.

    and honestly? I don’t know what to say about the design itself. As much as I like it, it’s really the only case where we get a Servant whose appearance is based on a CE afaic. Feels like it could go either way.

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    They would have announced the welfare by now if there was one
    Quote Originally Posted by FSF 5, Chapter 14: Gold and Lions I
    Dumas flashed a fearless grin at Flat and Jack as he rattled off odd turns of phrase.
    "And most importantly, it's me who'll be doing the cooking."
    Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
    Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
    Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.


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    Tfw the closest you’ve gotten is the Projection CE

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    Quote Originally Posted by AmADo VII View Post
    this event will be BS if there isn't single Tokugawa character appearing.
    Same, I want at least some NPC cameos for future new servants on this event if all we are getting is Kama
    Personally, I'm crossing fingers for Ieyasu and Jubei

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    Quote Originally Posted by Altaris View Post
    I'm so glad Muramasa is never released

    The schadenfreude is good
    You should do something about that

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    The more they don't release Muramasa the more likely it is he'll debut in LB6.

    Keep your eyes on that chapter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ItsaRandomUsername View Post
    The more they don't release Muramasa the more likely it is he'll debut in LB6.

    Keep your eyes on that chapter.
    I see people saying that but I don’t understand the connection. Whats the deal with that?

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    He's Shirou.

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    Muramasa or not I want Emiya in LB6 more.
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    Bro you gotta walk me through this gently, I still don’t get it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by weeblord View Post
    I see people saying that but I don’t understand the connection. Whats the deal with that?
    the fanfictions
    Quote Originally Posted by FSF 5, Chapter 14: Gold and Lions I
    Dumas flashed a fearless grin at Flat and Jack as he rattled off odd turns of phrase.
    "And most importantly, it's me who'll be doing the cooking."
    Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
    Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
    Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.


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    Quote Originally Posted by You View Post
    They would have announced the welfare by now if there was one
    Maybe it will be a surprise like AZO's Irisviel.

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    another interesting lore about Iemitsu.

    he was a gay (didn't have any interest in women) but after seeing Nuns (now you know why Kiara was chosen) he began to have affection on women.

    the place of this event is literally harem castle made by Iemitsu.

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    Hmm, I hope we aren’t getting a cure the big gay with hot girls narrative.

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    going by that were going to get Kiara turning gay man straight narrative
    glorious if true

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    Why would he build harem castle if he was gay?
    Kiara make him straight?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmADo VII View Post
    another interesting lore about Iemitsu.

    he was a gay (didn't have any interest in women) but after seeing Nuns (now you know why Kiara was chosen) he began to have affection on women.

    the place of this event is literally harem castle made by Iemitsu.
    Doing quick reading on this, I can see that he had (at least?) 2 male lovers when he was younger, Mizuno Narisada and Sakabe Gozaemon (killing the second one during a bath because of some personal slight, but its not clear if it was actually the reason he did that), but that he also had several children later on in life. The books I seen about homosexuality in the Tokugawa shogunate only have that about Iemitsu specifically.

    The nun thing is the really intriguing part. I do get why Kiara was chosen since it fits with the theme, and it seems that Iemitsu relationship with Buddhist nuns went not just in the sexual sense but also due to the political and personal attachment they had during his life. There was a Soshin, referred to as "Witch Nun Soshin (妖尼祖心)" by Hayashi Razan, who was in charge of the women's quarters of Iemitsu and also her (grand?)daughter gave birth to Chiyohime, who when she got sick Iemitsu had relied heavily on the nuns for her treatment and kept on being a patron of nuns from then onward.

    I guess that's the issue with trying to figure out the sexuality of people who lived over 4 centuries ago, but at a glance, it seems that he's considered gay like Richard was/is now (so either a bisexual who preferred being with men or a gay man who had to be with women due to his social status and demands of (trying to) producing heirs). At the same time, it doesn't seem like he was full blown not having sexual interest in women and actively avoiding them like how Frederick the Great had been, so eh?

    Quote Originally Posted by Knight of Rebellion13 View Post
    Why would he build harem castle if he was gay?
    Kiara make him straight?
    Play the event to find out, I guess

    Although I doubt Kiara is going to make him straight, since the stance this game takes is that almost everyone is bi with few exceptions
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knight of Rebellion13 View Post
    Why would he build harem castle if he was gay?
    Kiara make him straight?
    The Ooku was made by his father Tokugawa Hidetada.

    I mean, just take a look at Wikipedia to know about the actual place.

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