Thread: Fate/Grand Order Story and Lore (CONTAINS SPOILERS)

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    didn't Parvati send him tho

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    I mean personally the lines all feel jinako and not really ganesha? Maybe the first form lines, but they also sound like jinako pretending to be ganesha to ‘surprise’ us when she ascends.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Vanatos View Post
    So looking at Jinako's voice lines it turns that Ganesha merged with her because he was just as big of HikiNEET shit-in as her. He even put her in charge of the body. Parvati has her work cut out for her.
    None of her lines really say anything like that tho

    though she is in control of the body yeah
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronove View Post
    Solomon isn't a candidate, he's the grand caster.
    London explains that Grand is just a container like any other class container, just really good and only a few Heroic Spirits can be summoned into it.

    Quote Originally Posted by SirGauoftheSquareTable View Post
    I would agree, but then there's the case of Beowulf, who's only a Berserker because of his deep connection to Norse culture and the very idea of a berserker, implying a certain Norseness about the Class.
    Isn't Beowulf a Berserker because he's considered the first to exemplify that sort of deal, similar to Columbus having Conquistador EX despite not being Spanish?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trubo View Post
    Isn't Beowulf a Berserker because he's considered the first to exemplify that sort of deal, similar to Columbus having Conquistador EX despite not being Spanish?
    Quote Originally Posted by Beowulf Bond Level 5
    The etymology of Berserker - one of the Servant Classes - is the berserk from Norse mythology, and it has been told that Beowulf's name also has its origins in this berserk.
    However, he - who accomplished the feat of dragon slayer while retaining his reason even after having aged - does not display even a fragment of madness.
    Apparently it's due to (questionable) etymological reasons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by You View Post
    Da Vinci
    "(That miasma is too dense. I can't observe his actual body.
    From the narrow outline, I can grasp his scale, but -
    There's no doubt, that's a Grand.
    That man contracted with a Grand Servant...!)"
    Asclepius
    "What? You... What was that?!"
    Judging from this reaction, I'd say that's probably actually a Grand Servant, and not just a Grand-tier like QSH is.

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    Loxley/Alcides Grand Archer (Fate/Strange Fake)
    >Loxley
    C'mon now, Loxley? Archer Herk for Grand Archer.

    That, or Hou Yi, but Archer Herk'd definitely be way more hype and a better fit for the meta-narrative.
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    Outside of the obvious choices like a possible Norse servant or Wukong and the like, I can't think off the top of my head of who can apply for a Grand Berserker.
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    It's gonna be obscure Buddhism god and you guys are gonna flip shit

    And I will be there to laugh at whomever saying Grand Zerk must be Norse-related

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zork Knight View Post
    So, if we assume that the Beast's Sins are related to the Seven Deadly Sins,
    Pity (Hmm...)
    Regression (Uhhhh???)
    Pleasure/Depravity + Pleasure/Lust (Obvious)
    Comparison (Envy, prob)

    So, I think the answer is probably, no, the sins the Beasts represent aren't 1:1 with the tradition of Seven Deadly Sins. Just that the concepts sometimes correlate. Which I like, it gives Nasu and co. a springboard to deal with other issues that blight humanity's development.
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    If it's not Norse then I'd want it to be Lycaon just to tie into the whole werewolf thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Vanatos View Post
    Outside of the obvious choices like a possible Norse servant or Wukong and the like, I can't think off the top of my head of who can apply for a Grand Berserker.
    I think it's Samson - one of the judges from jewish myth. This guy is insane.

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    The seven deadly is a trope so overused what I geniunely can't see Nasu going with it. Refer maybe, but not base on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Altaris View Post
    It's gonna be obscure Buddhism god and you guys are gonna flip shit

    And I will be there to laugh at whomever saying Grand Zerk must be Norse-related
    It'd actually be epic if it turns out that we fight real Douman, Beast Nine Tailed Koya, and this Buddhism Grand Servant all in Daybit's Lostbelt. Now that's a Lostbelt worthy of being the final Lostbelt.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Zork Knight View Post
    It's not hard to pair them up

    Pity - Pride
    Regression - Sloth
    III's - Lust
    Comparison - Envy

    And way back in the Prison Tower event Caligula cryptically said Gluttony was the sin of the Roman Empire, or something like that
    Beast III is Pleasure. Lust is the aspect of it Kiara represents, Kama is Depravity.
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    Genderswaps are terrible, but I think I and other people would hate them less if Fate didn't keep ignoring actual heroines throughout history and folklore. Like, why bother turning Francis Drake into a woman when Ching Shih and Grace O'Malley exist?
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    Not neccesary, there's still epilogue which might or might not be a Belt of it's own (if Salomon is any indication)

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    Epilogue is obviously the fight against the Alien God.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ItsaRandomUsername View Post
    Pity (Hmm...)
    Regression (Uhhhh???)
    Pleasure/Depravity + Pleasure/Lust (Obvious)
    Comparison (Envy, prob)

    So, I think the answer is probably, no, the sins the Beasts represent aren't 1:1 with the tradition of Seven Deadly Sins. Just that the concepts sometimes correlate. Which I like, it gives Nasu and co. a springboard to deal with other issues that blight humanity's development.
    Regression:Sloth

    Going backwards and not moving forward
    It's a bit of a stretch but it's something

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    Stretching is good, but this is a bit much.
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    Comparison feels too much of a take on Envy for it to not be related

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    Like I said, that much is obvious, but the others feel more removed from the pure essence of the seven that anyone can write a book report on it and say "Look! One of the Seven! " and miss the point.

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    Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
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