''but I think'' =/= a fact
Wasn't it mentioned that Mordred only got the upperhand on normal Gawain because of the wound inflicted by Lancelot, and that she wasn't as confident duking it out with Gawain if he was at full health? (maybe this was in the Apoc LN, I forgot honestly)
Regardless, if Nasu took a look at that ranking and put base Gawain at that level as reference, then it does make some sense. Base Gawain is still really powerful, and I couldn't think of any other KOTR that can prevail over him besides Lancelot and Tristan's ridiculous bow. Sun Gawain still the strongest though considering he put Lancelot on the defensive all the time to draw out the day into night.
I wonder what the 8th Sacramental Assembly would do if they were supervising a war in which Salome participated
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Also Tristan is just as strong physically and faster and can also be summoned as a saber to boot, so he has greater speed, probably technique and a broader skillset
And it all comes out to... murdering a bunch of civilians and making Chaldea's life difficult?
At least I can't remember any time he and his NP actually had an impressive showing. Which is what I've been saying all along, it sounds like an unbeatable secret weapon but we've never actually seen it except against people who can fight against it on even ground or beat it (Arash, Meltryllis).
shit BL says
Once and always and nevermore.
The bow is pretty neat to me
"Because the velocity of the arrow, the bow’s angle adjustments, and above all, the loading speed of its arrows are all unusual, it is almost impossible to avoid the entire bullet, no matter how fast the hero is that excels in speed. It seems that the only ways for one to oppose this is by jumping dimensions, move one’s body outside of its range, and so forth.[2]
For the different ways to use this string, Tristan can take up tactics such as tearing up, slicing up and tying down the opponent"
Don't take Lostroom fights as reference pls, it's bunch of clusterfuck nonsense, the fight is. Why would Fionn become some thugs with spear that easily disarmed?
Tristan in camelot is actually a huge threa, I found him scarier than gawain because he become psycopath.r
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I still don't believe Servants are weaker than the one in life though, except foelr demigods
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It's case by case, cause you've got the three different entities of the living hero, the Heroic Spirit in the Throne, and the Servant. The Servant will almost always be weaker than the Heroic Spirit, and the Heroic Spirit can be as strong or stronger than the living hero, so comparing the living hero and the Servant depends there.
With normal human dudes from history, like most Man-attribute people for instance, they were just normal humans in life, so then the Heroic Spirit is leagues stronger because it's a big ol' deification of that person and you can get nutty stuff like what Tesla got as a fringe example, and consequently the Servant is better off than that living person was.
If the Heroic Spirit is more like "the living hero, in their prime, with all their stuff", ergo there's a smaller gap between the living hero and the Heroic Spirit, then it's more likely the Servant will be weaker, cause the Servant's a fragment of the Heroic Spirit in that way.
Even then it's hard to say cause we don't have a ton of comparative examples- Rin!Saber in FSN is called equal to living Saber in her prime, for instance, and you have stuff like Thrown Gae Bolg getting better from becoming a Heroic Spirit than it was in life, but there aren't a lot of cases where we get info like that.
That... seems wrong somehow. Like, how would it even work? He couldn't turn into a Servant stomping vampire in life, nor did he have the power to magically create stakes inside someone's body, so how would his living self be stronger than his Servant self? Even if his living self had better stats, those above two advantages would still clearly make his Servant self stronger.
My Fanfics. Read 'em. Or not.McJon01: We all know that the real reason Archer would lose to Rider is because the events of his own Holy Grail War left him with a particular weakness toward "older sister" types.
AoG servants are likely to be inferior to their living counterparts because AoG has magic bullshit, thats one example
Bullshit writing like Nero is another example
Servant is always weaker than a Heroic Spirit because of what servant is
Servant / Living Person is case-by-case thing which is determined by a bunch of factors like origins, legend power scaling etc
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I think at one point of FGO it was outright said that Man-attribute Heroic Spirits are usually stronger as Servants, while with Earth and Heaven ones it depends.
Lol, Carmilla became a swimsuit servant out of frustration at seeing Liz getting so many variations on Halloween
She's a phantom thief
And it seems her car is her iron maiden reform into the form of a car
(She's my favorite out of the whole bunch, I'll watch an entire anime series of Mistress C adventures)