Fate/Grand Order Story and Lore (CONTAINS SPOILERS)

[Deathhappens]

Dude, you cannot prove something by point out the lack of proof

Good thing I'm DISproving it, then.

I am just saying, there is evidence liking her to the servant universe, so at least the possibility can be considered.

And I'm saying this evidence is circumstantial and could just as easily have applied to Osakabehime or Mecha Eli-chan.

Fact of the matter is, when Himeji Castle event ran nobody considered Amazoness CEO to be anything but a joke, and coming back two years later with new info to declare that "we knew it all along" is disingenuous at best.

[Dragolord09]

I think you're working yourself up over nothing.

[mami-kouga]

Yeah now that its been officially confirmed this entire argument feels kind of pointless

[Lelo]

I mean, we know they plan a lot of stuff in advance even if it's for joke events, the argument "these new info make us think that it was a foreshadowing for more Servant Universe stuff all along" is reasonably solid imho.

[Deathhappens]

Sure, maybe it was planned all along or maybe it wasn't, but my point is and has always been that when Himeji Castle ran nobody could know that and all assertions to the contrary two years post-facto are... let's just stick with "disingenuous".

[Dragolord09]

I don't think that argument works that well considering they keep coming back to Servant Universe stuff every-so-often after the MHX event.

[R.Lock]

Your only evidence to the contrary was, uh, that CEO didn't have a scheduled delivery to MHX at the time. Come back again when you figure out how to twist your headcanon from better stuff.

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Oh, and if you didn't notice at the time, Servant Universe was considered a big fat joke. It still is.

[Deathhappens]

What argument? It's a fact that such a thing was neither stated nor even implied at the time. I'm sure someone somewhere might have tinfoil-hatted it back then, but that doesn't give him any more credibility than the "CasCu is Odin" guy has right now. Less, even.

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Your only evidence to the contrary was, uh, that CEO didn't have a scheduled delivery to MHX at the time. Come back again when you figure out how to twist your headcanon from better stuff.

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Oh, and if you didn't notice at the time, Servant Universe was considered a big fat joke. It still is.

Lol, what the fuck did you even read? Not my posts, that's for sure.

I don't have to PROVE anything. You are the ones who made the assertion that Penth was said to be Servant Universe back then. Prove it, and feel free to ignore my "headcanon".

[Dragolord09]

Which Penth?

[Deathhappens]

Which Penth?

The "Amazoness CEO" that showed up on Himeji Castle.

[Quoren]

This conversation is extremely confusing. It's literally the second thing she says, and we've had a translation for well over two years (https://www.reddit.com/r/grandorder/...ion_7_summary/).

[Deathhappens]

Because that's not what the NA version says.


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(Although that does explain some of the confusion).

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Thus, to restate my earlier post because some people have reeeaally short memories:

"She mentioned making deliveries to the Servant Universe" =/= "She is a character from the Servant Universe".

[Sandstorm77]

It takes some real mental gymnastics to actually think that instead of immediately connecting them. Because obviously our penth has the means to travel to servant universe and make deliveries across worlds.

[Zurvan]

Is the goal here that someone pats you on the back, saying "its okay fishrin, you were right, she didnt have to be from the joke realm in the joke event."

Cuz in that case just pretend like the above words are genuine and let it go

[Deathhappens]

It takes some real mental gymnastics to actually think that instead of immediately connecting them. Because obviously our penth has the means to travel to servant universe and make deliveries across worlds.

It would take a lot more mental gymnastics to jump from "Penth is calling herself Amazoness CEO and making deliveries as far as the Servant Universe" to "Despite lookinh and behaving exactly like the Penth we know, this isn't the Penth we know but a completely different Servant Universe character."

But sure, if you actually want to claim this is what you did, power to you buddy.

[You]

This conversation is extremely confusing. It's literally the second thing she says, and we've had a translation for well over two years (https://www.reddit.com/r/grandorder/...ion_7_summary/).

Because that's not what the NA version says.

Reddit translation wrong. NA more right.

サーヴァント・ユニバースにおいてあらゆる物流を一手に担う者である。

With that aside, you need to have your head in the sand to believe she's not from the Servant Universe.
CEO is Oregairu hand-waving memes. Pent does not do that.

[Sandstorm77]

It would take a lot more mental gymnastics to jump from "Penth is calling herself Amazoness CEO and making deliveries as far as the Servant Universe" to "Despite lookinh and behaving exactly like the Penth we know, this isn't the Penth we know but a completely different Servant Universe character."

But sure, if you actually want to claim this is what you did, power to you buddy.

Are you listening yourself? Like can you actually read what you just wrote and not see how ridiculous you are being?

This servant who you claim 'acts like penth', even though the only similarity is not liking men and acts differently in all other regards, who also makes deliveries to the servant universe, which travel from and to has only been shown by servants from there, is penth that somehow and for some reason goes to said place to make deliveries? If you want to be pedantic, she says 'throughout' and not 'as far', implying that's where she does most if not all of her work. So again, it is just our penth basically spends most of her time not in chaldea, but away in the servant universe.

You really do not see the amount of things you're ignoring just to hold your point? I mean i guess if you're point is that nothing is going to change your mind, than point taken i guess.

[Dragolord09]

How did this argument start up again?

[Deathhappens]

Are you listening yourself? Like can you actually read what you just wrote and not see how ridiculous you are being?

This servant who you claim 'acts like penth', even though the only similarity is not liking men and acts differently in all other regards, who also makes deliveries to the servant universe, which travel from and to has only been shown by servants from there, is penth that somehow and for some reason goes to said place to make deliveries? If you want to be pedantic, she says 'throughout' and not 'as far', implying that's where she does most if not all of her work. So again, it is just our penth basically spends most of her time not in chaldea, but away in the servant universe.

You really do not see the amount of things you're ignoring just to hold your point? I mean i guess if you're point is that nothing is going to change your mind, than point taken i guess.

As blatant a case of "hindsight is 20/20" as it gets. Consider this: If it was as obvious as you seem to believe and I am the only deluded one who doesn't see your point, then how come nobody, from the time Himeji first ran in JP until the new event was revealed, actually guessed that "Amazoness CEO" was someone completely different?

[Quoren]

As blatant a case of "hindsight is 20/20" as it gets. Consider this: If it was as obvious as you seem to believe and I am the only deluded one who doesn't see your point, then how come nobody, from the time Himeji first ran in JP until the new event was revealed, actually guessed that "Amazoness CEO" was someone completely different?

I'd ask instead to please find anyone who thought she wasn't a completely unique character, because I think you're the one and only.