Thread: Fate/Grand Order Story and Lore (CONTAINS SPOILERS)

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinetree View Post
    The Lovecraft beings are explicitly not that though
    Well, yeah. Alien Gods are not 100% Lovecraft Outer Gods, its just the closest analogy you can make to comprehend them. That is why Hokusai paintings and Crowley demons are also thrown in the mix.

    Didn't it still stop him from fully awakening though? I'd count that as at least a temporary victory.
    He'd have gone to sleep anyway, and considering that pretty much everyone died and the lasr survivor suffered unrecoverable mental damage, it is hardly a victory for makind.

    The Mythos was useful fodder for heroes to punch when Lovecraft was alive, given his correspondence with Robert "Conan the Barbarian"
    Well, even Conan is terrified by some examples of sorcery. Its just that his natural reaction to fear is fighting. Also, none of the "heavy-hitters" does not appear in the series directly. And Hyboria is also doomed the same way mankind in Lovecraft'a work, their eventual fall is a foregone conclusions in both "settings".
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    Quote Originally Posted by yokushi View Post
    I don't see any problem with using the Cthulhu mythos out of their context because using myths out of their context and giving them a new one inside the setting is what Fate is all about since Day 1. Because yeah, the Cthulhu mythos were created to serve as just that, a vaguely connected new mythology that anyone can use.

    Whining about something that is the very core of the franchise seems like beating a dead horse at this point.
    A gross simplification.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FourthWall View Post
    The Mythos was useful fodder for heroes to punch when Lovecraft was alive, given his correspondence with Robert "Conan the Barbarian" Howard. Also, the Mythos as a thing was codified by Derleth, who had wacky adventures in it with powerful sorcerers.

    The "oh god it's scary and unstoppable" stuff is after the fact justification for sketchy stories by a dude who was afraid of fish and black people.
    And this is literally not true. Not once in the entire mythos did the humans win a clear, no strings attached victory.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mizukume View Post
    They are...the Beyonders.
    yeah, that seems about right given how the nasuverse handles them.

    still wish we got our own custom made beyonders though.

    looking at you, people inside the Root

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    Oh, I just realized: Is this the first time they are calling an Outer God by their original name?
    They used Sut-Typhon for Yog Sothoth and Evil God of the Abyss for Cthulhu, but BB is BBthotep. Do they mention him by name in the story?

    I thought they were going to keep using different names to show how Lovecraft only dreamed about them and the things he wrote are not necessarily correct.

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    Even a broken clock is right twice a day. Besides he observed Humanity, who’s to say he didn’t assume that name?

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    Considering how Nyarlathotep was always more involved with humanity anyways, it wouldn't surprise me. It's not like he doesn't have a bunch of other names he goes by, either.

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    I like how Jeanne Alter has grown mentally though, even if her class is berserker. Heck, all the servants seems to be gently nudging for MC regardless of gender to hook up with Mashu for this event, so I'm enjoying it even if Mythos is involved.

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    Teach is one of the best character in this event.

    he showed us how to be a good otaku.

    in case you don't know he's been your first buyer all the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AmADo VII View Post
    Teach is one of the best character in this event.

    he showed us how to be a good otaku.

    in case you don't know he's been your first buyer all the time.
    He taught the team on the basics of doujin drawing, giving his room next to Akki since he know she will give advice and help they really need, and like you say: first buyer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iceblade44 View Post
    One of the best things I got out of this event is that CA Hassan Protection from Wind actually makes him immune to explosions. That makes the skill way more useful then I originally thought
    Yeah, I originally thought it just let him no-sell wind magic, but if it can let him ride the shock waves from explosions that actually makes him much harder to pin down, even with AoE.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mizukume View Post
    This event made me realized that Okki might actually be a better fox than Tamamo, despite certain parts not being as good.
    Well, Okii actually IS a fox, while Tamamo is a jackal, so there you go.

    Quote Originally Posted by Deathhappens View Post
    And this is literally not true. Not once in the entire mythos did the humans win a clear, no strings attached victory.
    To be fair, not once in the mythos did the humans have anything like Heroic Spirits backing them up. Also, didn't the Dunwich Horror get it's ass decisively kicked? It only succeeded in killing some police and helpless civilians. No different than your typical monster movie. The moment people who could fight back got involved it was done.

    Quote Originally Posted by rxrx View Post
    He taught the team on the basics of doujin drawing, giving his room next to Akki since he know she will give advice and help they really need, and like you say: first buyer.
    One of the things I love most about this event is it makes otaku-Blackbeard into best senpai without actually changing the fact that he's an otaku.

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    And Teach also reminds you why he is a pirate by trying to charge overwhelming price for helping the team take a group photo.

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    Protection from Arrows for comparison is a powerful skill, nice that they have their own individual advantages.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobin View Post
    Protection from Arrows for comparison is a powerful skill, nice that they have their own individual advantages.
    Yeah, Hassan's Wind Evasion is actually pretty good. PFA might not work on explosions, but WE has no such problems.

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    Well, the Dunwich Horror was just a kid aberration, too.

    And while Charles Dexter Ward doesn't survive, the protagonist comes out of his ordeal seemingly fine AND released some ancient force of good that goes on to hunt Joseph Curwen's crazy cabal, so that one's bittersweet I guess.

    Still waiting for Caster Lavinya, Halloween don't disappoint me plz.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmADo VII View Post
    Teach is one of the best character in this event.

    he showed us how to be a good otaku.

    in case you don't know he's been your first buyer all the time.
    No wonder he's Rumi's favorite Servant.
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    Speaking of Lovecraft, any fans of Demonbane here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragolord09 View Post
    Speaking of Lovecraft, any fans of Demonbane here?
    I like how shanking the loli-book is enough for Kuro to withstand Nyan's charms.

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    the Butler Sherry and Sandalphon were the only worthwhile things from Demonbane
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    And going by the story, yep.

    The overload of references made me think that Abby will be the next nesoberi and Okita Alter to be the next mascot.

    Also, what did they discuss about the Mebius day? I'm curious.
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