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    Fantasy novels and anime have seriously downgraded how people think of God.
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    Not really, its just that Buddhism operates on such an infinitely greater scale.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Christemo View Post
    Not really, its just that Buddhism operates on such an infinitely greater scale.
    see what I mean
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    Quote Originally Posted by @Leo-chan View Post
    see what I mean
    Pray do tell how that statement came out of le animes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Siriel View Post
    mAc come on, that's the "you've been punched in the face a lot why won't you let me punch you in the face" logic.
    It's more how you get desensitized to something when you see it enough.

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    I mean I too am of the "who fucking cares" blog, but that reasoning makes me look bad.
    In TM canon it would never work. But this is GO we're talking about. It's not like it follows the rules.

    Also lol if you think God would be comparable to Servants.
    He never sleeps. He never dies.

    Battle doesn't need a purpose; the battle is its own purpose. You don't ask why a plague spreads or a field burns. Don't ask why I fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christemo View Post
    Pray do tell how that statement came out of le animes.
    Omnipotent and omnipresent are used and understood very, very cheaply, and then this gets blended with a general lack of understanding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mAc Chaos View Post
    Also lol if you think God would be comparable to Servants.


    also lol if you think you can squeeze all of God's power into a Servant container.

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    Omnipotent and omnipresent are used and understood very, very cheaply, and then this gets blended with a general lack of understanding.
    What is omnipotent and omnipresent in the context of the bible? How large is the universe, as described by the Bible?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mAc Chaos View Post
    It's more how you get desensitized to something when you see it enough.
    This is to be frank an absolutely ridiculous argument to advance as a moderator on a forum that's been cracking down on personal attacks. If being insulted stopped being insulting, no one here could be offended.
    Ragnarok, come day of wrath
    That fallen souls might bear our plea.
    To hasten the Divine's return.
    O piteous Wanderer.

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    Define insulting.
    He never sleeps. He never dies.

    Battle doesn't need a purpose; the battle is its own purpose. You don't ask why a plague spreads or a field burns. Don't ask why I fight.

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    Simple definition used in everyday life.
    Ragnarok, come day of wrath
    That fallen souls might bear our plea.
    To hasten the Divine's return.
    O piteous Wanderer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christemo View Post

    also lol if you think you can squeeze all of God's power into a Servant container.

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    What is omnipotent and omnipresent in the context of the bible? How large is the universe, as described by the Bible?
    Am I talking to a bubba fundamentalist?
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    So, unless you're saying that it's offensive to use Jesus simply from a theological standpoint, it wouldn't be insulting to have Jesus as a Servant or rendering him in other forms of media, unless that rendering was specifically meant to insult and degrade him.



    Is this insulting.
    He never sleeps. He never dies.

    Battle doesn't need a purpose; the battle is its own purpose. You don't ask why a plague spreads or a field burns. Don't ask why I fight.

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    There's no such thing as omnipotent nor omnipresence. Well, according to Buddhism that is.

    I mean, we do believe that Gods exist, but they're not Almighty and came with limitations.


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    What is omnipotent and omnipresent in the context of the bible?
    I always understood that those words are absolutes, in context and out. If you could quantify a God's power and knowledge, then they wouldn't be absolute and those terms wouldn't apply.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mAc Chaos View Post
    So, unless you're saying that it's offensive to use Jesus simply from a theological standpoint, it wouldn't be insulting to have Jesus as a Servant or rendering him in other forms of media, unless that rendering was specifically meant to insult and degrade him.
    You're arguing the wrong question. The question isn't "Is representing Jesus offensive?", it's "If representing Jesus is offensive, does it stop being offensive because it's been done a lot?".

    You try to answer the latter with yes, and that's a ridiculous argument to make.

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    Is this insulting.
    Penny Arcade is bad, so yes.
    Ragnarok, come day of wrath
    That fallen souls might bear our plea.
    To hasten the Divine's return.
    O piteous Wanderer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christemo View Post
    What is omnipotent and omnipresent in the context of the bible? How large is the universe, as described by the Bible?
    Omnipresent and omniscient, as I've already stated, are Platonic-inspired ideals regarding the Judeo-Christian God.
    The Bible focuses on Earth and the heavens. The heavens are understood to be basically infinite compared to the Earth, sooo...what'cha trying to get at? What is to be gained by asking "how large is the universe as the Bible described it?"?
    I'm trying to not infer that you're saying that Buddhism has a better understanding of the universe's vastness, 'cause that's kind of a jerk move, dood.
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    What is omnipotent and omnipresent in the context of the bible? How large is the universe, as described by the Bible?
    In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning. Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.
    Aus Feuer ward der Geist geschaffen,
    drum schenkt mir süßes Feuer ein!
    Die Lust der Lieder und der Waffen,
    die Lust der Liebe schenkt mir ein,
    der Trauben süßes Sonnenblut,
    das Wunder glaubt und Wunder thut!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mAc Chaos View Post
    So, unless you're saying that it's offensive to use Jesus simply from a theological standpoint, it wouldn't be insulting to have Jesus as a Servant or rendering him in other forms of media, unless that rendering was specifically meant to insult and degrade him.



    Is this insulting.
    This offends me deeply purely through how unfunny it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lycodrake View Post
    Omnipresent and omniscient, as I've already stated, are Platonic-inspired ideals regarding God.
    The Bible doesn't mention them as attributes of God? I was sure that God being all-seeing and all-knowing is mentioned somewhere in there, basically how hiding stuff from God is pointless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by *Snow View Post
    The Bible doesn't mention them as attributes of God? I was sure that God being all-seeing and all-knowing is mentioned somewhere in there, basically how hiding stuff from God is pointless.
    It doesn't really matter because regardless of the Bible or not you can derive these as necessary traits of God.
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