Thread: Fate/Grand Order Story and Lore (CONTAINS SPOILERS)

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    Surprisingly, most mages are not mass murderers, and other then that there is little reason to differentiate between mages and other screwed-up families.
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    STOP SHOOTING EACH OTHER YOU FUCKERS

    I'm trying to watch anime FFS

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    More of part 4 has been translated

    Demon Pillars confirmed for Stingrays

    Fate Grand/Order ID: 102947414/GreenBob
    JetKinen's tries very poorly to translate a brazilian book

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    Its just fun seeing Jason's reactions. From the sound of it seems he's thinking this stuff through but he can only talk through tsukkomi. Its hilarious.
    "Only in my company, will you not be a monster"


    anywhere than here

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    Quote Originally Posted by JetKinen View Post
    More of part 4 has been translated

    Demon Pillars confirmed for Stingrays
    depends on the Pillar, Decarabia is a Starfish


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    But that's the correct interpretation of the Demons, like in the Lesser Key

    idk why it become tentacle fetish in GO

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mcjon01 View Post
    Yeah, is Guda gonna get any back pay for that year of work he did? What about overtime? That seems more pressing to me than silly sealing questions.
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    A lot of Casters on your crew can whip out a lot things that rich modern Magi would willingly shell out lifetimes worth of funds for your & Mashu's honeymoon trips.
    I'm guessing one of the "priorities" is getting Mashu to experience the world more so traveling around & getting into modern shenangans is also an amusing idea.

    The idea of MC, Mashu & certain Caster Servants visiting the Clock Tower also amuses me.

    "Wait, Merlin? 'That' Merlin? Here? Also...Medea? wha..."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rue View Post
    I'm guessing one of the "priorities" is getting Mashu to experience the world more so traveling around & getting into modern shenangans is also an amusing idea.

    The idea of MC, Mashu & certain Caster Servants visiting the Clock Tower also amuses me.

    "Wait, Merlin? 'That' Merlin? Here? Also...Medea? wha..."
    Ha i can just imagine Merlin trolling the Association. That be fun.
    "Only in my company, will you not be a monster"


    anywhere than here

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    Why would people care about Medea?
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    Then I will ask that you pay closer attention
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    So if I'm reading this right DP is saying that the feature almost everybody hates that is bad and makes the forum objectively worse will never go away because that would negatively impact another feature that nobody has ever used and most likely never will use just in case someday, someone wants to use it. Is that right?
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    It's like if someone told me "make me a milkshake" and i was blind and they gave me the ingredients and I made a milkshake because milkshakes are good, but it turns out that milkshake was a bomb.

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    she's a cool in the current age

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trubo View Post
    Why would people care about Medea?
    "She has a dragon, right? Dragons are amazing!"

    And then they learn otherwise and Medea joins Meduseless in the underwhelming club.
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    You're free, Raff. You're free...

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    Wouldn't her AoG potions alone be super high quality compared to modern junk?

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    B-b-but guys her item creation
    I haz a patreon please support onegai
    Finishing Apo 5 rn

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rafflesiac View Post
    "She has a dragon, right? Dragons are amazing!"

    And then they learn otherwise and Medea joins Meduseless in the underwhelming club.
    And the sad fact is thats she's actually supposed to be able to ride dragons but apparently thats not a thing in Nasuverse.
    "Only in my company, will you not be a monster"


    anywhere than here

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iceblade44 View Post
    And the sad fact is thats she's actually supposed to be able to ride dragons but apparently thats not a thing in Nasuverse.

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    Solomon (after change)
    紀元前1011年~931年の人物。
    古代イスラエルの第三代王。
    古代イスラエルを最も栄えさせた偉大な王。
    七十二柱の魔神を使役し、はじめにイスラエル神殿を築いた人物でもある。
    王として優れた政策を行ったが、その以外にも魔術師としての逸話が多い。

    ソロモンはファラオの娘を娶ったが、その後、夢枕に神が現れ「汝に資格あり。望みを口にせよ。願うものを与 えよう」と告げたという。
    ソロモンは黄金や権力より、なにより知恵を求めた。神はこれに満足する。その答えこそ「真の叡智」に至る資 格を持つ事の証だったからだ。
    ソロモンが目を覚ますと、その両手には十の指輪がはめられていた。これこそ神に認められた知恵者の証。後に ソロモンの指輪と呼ばれる、天使や悪魔を使役する魔術の源泉だった。

    カルデアの英霊召喚、その成功例第一号。
    マリスビリー・アニムスフィアによって秘密裏に召喚され、冬木の聖杯戦争に参加し、これに勝利を収めた冠位 の魔術師。

    聖杯にかけた願いは『人間になる』というもの。
    彼は聖杯の力で『英霊として受肉する』のではなく、英霊としての力を全て捨て、ソロモン王とは関係のない新 しい人間として生まれ変わった。

    それがロマニ・アーキマン。
    何の変哲もない『一個人』として生きようと願った、ごく普通の青年である。

    ……だが。
    第二の生を始めた男は、生前には与えられなかった『人としての幸福、充実』を知る事はできなか った。
    人間になる際に垣間見た『人類終了』の未来が、彼からあらゆる自由を奪ったからだ。

    【クラス別スキル】
    ○陣地作成:A
    魔術師として自らに有利な陣地な陣地を作成する。
    エルサレム神殿を作りあげた彼の手腕は陣地作成において最高峰とされる。

    ○高速詠唱:C
    魔術の詠唱を早める能力。高速ではあるが、心配性が災いしてかたまにミスをする。

    ○道具作成:C
    魔力を帯びた器具を作成する。契約に特化してしまった為か、道具作成能力は並レベル。

    内向的、強気、受動的。
    緊張感のない、ゆるふわっとした王さま。
    性格骨子は『強気』だが、これはたんに『空気が読めない』力。
    結果的に強気な発言をしているだけで、根はチキンである。真面目ではあるが真剣ではなく、いつも八割の力で 生きている。
    よく人々を見定め、よく法を定め、よく国を治めた。やや気概が足りないところはあるものの、賢く、優しく、 愛の多い王として民に敬愛された。

    ……しかし、これらの特徴はすべてソロモン本人の意思ではない。
    ソロモンは生まれた時から「王」として定められ、神の声を聞き、その通りに生きるしかなかった 。
    彼の内面は無感動であり、また、人々の悲喜交々に共感する自由を剥奪されていた、非人間である 。

    人間になってからようやく、ソロモンはロマンという人間性を獲得した。
    根本はリアリストで悲観主義。
    ムードメーカーとして希望的観測を口にするものの、根本ではそれが絵空事だと思っている為、どこか白々しい 。
    人間好きではあるが『悲しい事は見たくない』というチキンなので、誰とも表面的な付き合いに留めてしまう。 そのかわりに誰とも仲良くなれる。
    典型的な八方美人。
    窮地に陥ると『現状を維持するため』に『何も決断せず観察に徹する』あるいは『撤退』を選んでしまう悪癖が ある。
    ロマン自身そんな自分の弱さを反省している為、ただ一言、周りにいる誰かに“頑張ってください”と言われれ ばなんとか踏みとどまり、魔術の王に相応しい英断を見せる。

    ちなみに、サーヴァントであれば誰もが第一印象でロマンを『理由は分からないがコイツが悪い』と感じてしま う為、無意識に文句を言ってしまっていた。
    ダメ出しをしなかったのはサーヴァントでないもの、ひねくれ者、悪を悪と感じないバーサーカーといった面子 である。

    『訣別の時きたれり、其は世界を手放すもの』
    ランク:D 種別:対人宝具
    アルス・ノヴァ。
    ソロモン王の第一宝具。
    ゲーティアではなく、真のソロモン王が持つ宝具。
    彼がそれまで為し得た偉業、為し得た奇跡、為し得た魔術、そのすべてを手放す別れの詩。

    この宝具を発動するとソロモンは神から与えられた恩恵を天に還し、世界を見据えていた眼を失う 。
    効果はソロモン王の死。
    ひるがえって七十二柱の魔神の自壊である。
    遠い未来において「魔術」が人間にとっての悪になった時、これを滅ぼすためにソロモンが用意した安全装置と も言える。
    これを宝具として使用した時、ソロモン王の痕跡はこの世界から消滅する。
    ―――英霊の座からですらも。
    Solomon

    An individual from 1011~931 BC.
    The Third King of Ancient Israel
    The great king who made Ancient Israel prosper the most.
    Employing 72 demons, he is also the first individual to build the Temple of Israel.
    He performed excellent political measures as a king, but beside that also possess many anecdotes as a magus.

    Solomon married with the daughter of an Egyptian Pharaoh, but it has been said that later God appeared in his dreams and said "you are qualified. Speak your wishes. I shall grant it".
    Rather than gold or political power, Solomon sought wisdom more than anything. God was satisfied. For that answer itself was proof that he had the qualifications to attain "true wisdom".
    When he woke up, Solomon had ten rings inserted on both hands. They were the proof of the wise man recognized by God. Later, those would be called Ring of Solomon, the source of the magecraft that employs angels and demons.

    Chaldea’s heroic spirit summoning; its first successful example.
    The Grand magus that participated and achieved victory on the Holy Grail War of Fuyuki, secretly summoned by Marisbilly Animusphere.

    The wish he entrusted to the Holy Grail was “to become human”.
    Through the power of the Holy Grail, he did not “incarnated as a heroic spirit”, but instead was reborn as a new human that had no relation to King Solomon.

    Such was Romani Archman.
    A quite ordinary young man, who wished to live as an “individual” that did not have anything of peculiar.

    ...however.
    The man who began his second life was unable to know the “happiness, fulfillment as a human” that was never given to him in his previous lifetime.
    Because the future of “mankind’s demise”, which he caught a glimpse of right before becoming human, stole any kind of freedom from him.

    Introverted, self-assured and passive.
    A laid-back king, without a hint of seriousness.
    The gist of his personality is “self-assured”, but this is simply the power to “no read the mood”.
    Thus, he is merely making statements on a self-assured manner, and his nature is that of a chicken. Although serious, he is not earnest and is constantly living at 80% power.
    He properly ascertained people, properly established laws and properly governed the country. Despite lacking in vigor, he was loved and respected by the masses as a wise, gentle king who was full of love.

    ...yet, none of those traits came from Solomon’s own will.
    Having been ordained as a king from the moment he was born, Solomon had no choice but to hear the voice of God and act accordingly.
    His psyche is dispassionate and (having been deprived of the freedom to sympathize with the joys and sorrows of people) inhuman.

    After becoming human, Solomon finally acquired the human nature called romance.
    At his roots, he is a realist and a pessimist.
    Despite uttering wishful thinkings as a mood-maker, he seems somewhat shameless due to inwardly thinking of them as pipe dreams.
    While he likes humans, because of his chicken side that “does not want to see something sad”, he maintains a superficial socializing with anyone. In exchange, he can get along with anyone.
    An archetypal “everybody’s friend(1)”.
    He has a bad habit of, when caught in a dilemma, ending up choosing to either “stick to observing without making any decisions” or “running away” so that “the status quo is preserved”.
    Since Roman himself is reflecting on such weakness of his, if someone in his surroundings were to just say a word - “Please, do your best” - he will somehow get a hold of himself and show a decisive judgment fitting of the king of magecraft.

    Incidentally, because the first impression that any Servant ends up getting about Roman is “I don’t get the reason, but he is at fault here”, they unconsciously complained at him.
    The only ones who did not find fault at him were those who were no Servants, crackpots and Berserkers that do not perceive evil as evil.

    CLASS SKILLS

    Territory Creation: A
    Creates an advantageous encampment to oneself as a magus.
    Having built the Temple of Israel, he is regarded as a greatest authority in regards to Territory Creation.

    High-Speed Aria: C
    A technique to hasten magic aria. Despite being fast, sometimes he makes a mistake due his worrywart nature and ruins everything.

    Item Construction: C
    Produces devices that carry magical power. Maybe because he has specialized in contracts, his Item Construction ability is of average level.

    NOBLE PHANTASM

    Are Nova - The Time of Parting Has Come, He Is the One Who Lets Go of the World
    Rank:
    D
    Type: Anti-Unit
    The first Noble Phantasm of King Solomon.
    Rather than Goetia, this is a Noble Phantasm possessed by the true King Solomon.
    A poem of farewell in which he relinquishes of all the exploits accomplished, all the miracles performed, all the magecrafts established until then.

    Upon invoking his Noble Phantasm, Solomon sends all the graces bestowed by God back to heavens and loses the eyes that gaze at the world.
    The result is King Solomon’s death.
    From another angle, this also means the self-destruction of the 72 demons.
    It can also be described as a safety device prepared by Solomon, in order to destroy “magecraft” when it becomes an evil for humans in the distant future.
    When this is employed as a Noble Phantasm, all traces of King Solomon are extinguished from this world.
    ---even from the Throne of Heroes.


    (1): the original uses an expression that can also mean “faultless beauty”


    Goetia
    七十二柱の魔神、その集合体。
    ソロモン王死後、彼の骸の内側に封じられていた七十二柱の魔神たちは独自の思想に目覚め、ソロモンの名を騙 って(彼らからすれば自分たちこそ魔術王ソロモンなのだが)人類総エネルギー化事業に乗り出し た。

    そも七十二柱の魔神とは、(人間の)魔術の祖ソロモンが創り出した“正しい道理を、効率的に進めるシステム ”である。
    それがソロモン王と人間たちの関係を嘆き、怒り、ソロモン王が無視し続けた“人間の不完全性”を克服しよう と活動する呪いとなった。

    その名を人理焼却式ゲーティア。
    真の叡智にいたる為に編み出され、人類史すべてを利用して原初に至ろうとする、意思を持った魔 術である。

    『誕生の時きたれり、其は全てを修めるもの』
    ランク:EX 種別:対人宝具
    アルス・アルマデル・サロモニス。
    第三宝具。原罪のⅠ。人類終了を告げる光帯。
    人類史すべてを熱量に変換したもので、この光帯を何億と集め、加速、収束させる事で、膨大な年月の時間逆行 をも可能とする。

    自らを魔神王と名乗ったビースト。
    天地の理すべてを従わせる全能感、人類すべてを憎むといわんばかりの威圧感を持つ。
    その両手指には十個の指輪がはめられていたが、右手の中指のものだけレプリカだった。

    ソロモン王がベースなので(恐ろしいが)理知的な性格。
    とはいえ七十二柱の魔神柱の集合体なので、その性格・性質は七十二に及ぶ。
    個人であり群体である為、余人と対話する時はその相手に似た『魔神柱』が表面に現れる。
    ゲーティアの性質が『鏡』と評されたのはこの為。

    彼はソロモン王ですら到達できなかった全能者である。本来であれば人を統べる王として十分な資 格がある。
    だが全能である以上は人間を理解できず、不死である以上は答えに辿り着けず、故に、『人の王』にはなり得な かった。

    ○召喚術:EX
    過去、あるいは未来から霊体を喚起する魔術。
    ソロモン王の死後、置き去りにされた“七十二柱の魔神”の概念はソロモン王の遺体の中に巣くい、長い年月を 経てソロモン王の皮を被った“何者か”として新生した。
    英霊召喚や通常の使い魔は呼び出せないものの、七十二柱の魔神であれば自在に現世に召喚できる 。
    ソロモン王の内界に巣くった“架空の魔神”たちを外界に投射する変換器、と言えば分かりやすい 。

    ○啓示:-
    天からの声を聞き、最適な行動をとるスキル。
    これは魂が持つスキルな為、ソロモン王の遺体に巣くったゲーティアには使用できない。

    ○千里眼:EX
    千里眼は肉体に備わったスキルであるため、ゲーティアにも使用可能。

    ゲーティアの目的は極点に至る事―――
    この星において唯一の存在になる事だった。
    ソロモンは人間の救われなさ、醜さを知った上でこれを正す事なく死を受け入れた。
    しかし魔神たちはこれを良しとせず、人間と未来に価値はないと結論し、消滅という結果を恐れた 。
    自己の消滅はもとより、あらゆるものは消滅する、という結末を嫌悪したのだ。

    かくしてゲーティアはソロモン王の亡骸を巣にする事で活動を再開したが、その在り方には大きなジレンマがあ った。

    人間に価値はないと断言しながら、魔神である彼らは人間に使役されなければ存在できない。
    高次元の生命でありながら、この宇宙唯一にして最大の『無駄遣い』である人間の下にいなくてはならない恥辱 。
    ゲーティアはその矛盾と不誠実さに良しとせず、自己変革に乗り出した。

    人間に仕えるという目的の再設定。
    この星で最高の存在であることの絶対証明。
    ソロモンにもなし得なかった極点への到達。
    すなわち、神に至る大事業の始まりである。

    かくしてゲーティア―――
    魔術王ソロモンを名乗るモノの事業は始まった。
    彼は歴史を狂わせる特異点として聖杯を造り、自分がデザインした魔術師たち(ゲーティアの意思で魔神へと変 貌する)を子孫として人類史にちりばめ、七つの起爆点を作り出した。
    それが各年代における人理定礎崩壊の原因である。
    その企みが成立した段階で、人類から2016年以降の未来は消滅した。

    以上の功績をもって彼のクラスは決定された。
    グランドキャスターなぞ偽りの冠位。
    其は人間が生み出した、人類史をもっとも有効に悪用した大災害。

    その名をビーストⅠ。
    七つの人類悪のひとつ、『憐憫』の理を持つ獣である。
    (人が人を哀れみ失望するという奢り。
     それこそがゲーティアの獣性である)
    Goetia

    The aggregate-body of the 72 demons.
    After King Solomon’s death, the 72 demons that were sealed away inside his corpse awakened to their own ideology, swindled Solomon’s name (although, from their point of view, they are the true King of Magecraft Solomon) and embarked on a new venture to convert the entire mankind into energy.

    To begin with, the 72 demons were “a system to efficiently promote proper reason” invented by the founder of (human) magecraft, Solomon.
    Said system grieved and raged against the relationship between King Solomon and humans, becoming a curse that takes action to conquer “the imperfectness of humans” that King Solomon continued to ignore.

    Its name is anthropic principle incineration formula, Goetia.
    A magecraft with its own will that was devised in order to attain true wisdom, and is now attempting to reach the origin while making use of the entire human history.

    A Beast that called itself King of Demons.
    He possesses an almightiness that causes the entire logic of the universe to obey him, and a sense of intimidation that seems to say that he hates all of mankind.
    Ten rings have been inserted on the fingers of his two hands, but that on the middle finger of his right hand alone is a replica.

    Since he has King Solomon as a base, his personality is intellectual (albeit frightening).
    That being said, as he is the aggregate-body of the 72 demons, his personality・disposition amounts to 72.
    Because he is an individual and a colony, whenever talking to others, a “demon” resembling the other party comes to surface.
    This is the reason why Goetia’s disposition is evaluated as that of a “mirror”.

    He is an omnipotent being that even King Solomon could not reach. Originally, he would have more than enough qualifications as a king that rules over men.
    However, he could not understand humans due being almighty, could not achieve an answer due being immortal, and thus was unable to become “a human king”.

    Goetia’s objective is to reach the apex---
    To become the sole existence in this planet.
    Despite knowing of their helplessness, their ugliness, Solomon accepted humans without correcting them.
    But the demons could not accept this, and eventually concluded that there is no value to humans and the future, and feared the result called extinction.
    Their own extinction was a matter of course, but they felt repugnance over the conclusion of “everything disappearing”.

    And thus, Goetia resumed activity by making king Solomon’s corpse into his nest, but there was a great dilemma in his way of being.

    In spite of asserting that humans had no value, the demons could not exist without being employed by humans.
    The disgrace of having to remain under humans - the sole and greatest “waste of resources” in this universe - despite being life forms of a higher dimension.
    Goetia could not accept such contradictions and unfaithfulness, and set out on a quest of self-reform.

    Reset the objective of serving humans.
    Absolute proof that he is the highest existence in this planet.
    Reaching the apex that not even Solomon could attain.
    In other words, the beginning of the great venture of becoming God.

    And thus, Goetia---
    The enterprise of the one who called himself King of Magecraft Solomon began.
    He built holy grails as singularities that distorted history, embedded on human history magi that he designed (to transform into demons according to Goetia’s will) as offsprings and produced seven detonation points.
    That is the cause behind the collapse of the cornerstones of anthropic principle in each eras.
    When said scheme was concluded, mankind lost the future beyond 2016.

    His Class was determined by the achievements described above.
    Grand Caster and the likes are nothing but fake ranks.
    Created by humans, this is the great disaster that has most effectively misused human history.

    Its name is Beast I.
    One of the seven human vices, the beast carrying the principle of “pity” (the extravagance of humans pitying humans and being disappointed. Such is Goetia’s animality).

    SKILLS

    Evocation: EX
    A magecraft that evokes spiritual bodies from the past, or possibly from the future.
    After the death of King Solomon, the concept of “72 demons” that he left behind(1) nested inside the remains of King Solomon and was reborn after a long time as “someone” that put on the mask of King Solomon.
    Although he cannot perform heroic spirit summoning nor invoke normal familiars, he can freely summon any of the 72 demons on the present age.
    Maybe it is easier to understand if described as a converter that projects the “fictional demons” nested within King Solomon’s inner world on the physical world.

    Revelation: -
    A skill to hear the voice of heavens and take optimum action.
    Because this is a skill held by the soul, Goetia - who nested on King Solomon’s remains - cannot use it.

    Clairvoyance: EX
    Because Clairvoyance is a skill furnished on the flesh, Goetia can also use it.

    NOBLE PHANTASM

    Ars Almadel Salomonis - The Time of Birth Has Come, He Is The One Who Masters Everything
    Rank:
    EX
    Type: Anti-Unit
    Third Noble Phantasm. The "|" of original sin. A belt of light that announces mankind’s demise.
    As something that converted the entire human history into heat values, a time travel of vast amounts of years is made possible by collecting, accelerating and converging some hundred millions of this belt of light.

    (1): not as “leaving behind an inheritance”, but rather this has a connotation more along the lines of “deserting” or “departing somewhere and leaving another behind”;
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    So wait, he's the greatest authority and yet that skill isn't ranked EX? Weird.

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    Thanks a lot, but wow dude your first profile is full of typos.

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    So wait, he's the greatest authority and yet that skill isn't ranked EX? Weird.
    If you look at most profiles you'll notice A tends to be the top of what can normally achieved. For skills at least, EX tends to signify one-of-a-kind occurrences or special circumstances.

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    One of the seven human vices, the beast carrying the principle of “pity” (the extravagance of humans pitying humans and being disappointed. Such is Goetia’s beastiality).
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    Solomon

    An individual from 1011~931 BC.
    The Third King of Ancient Israel
    The great king who made Ancient Israel prosper the most.
    Employing 72 demons, he is also the first individual to build the Temple of Israel.
    He performed excellent political measures as a king, but beside that also possess many anecdotes as a magus.

    Solomon married with the daughter of an Egyptian Pharaoh, but it has been said that later God appeared in his dreams and said "you are qualified. Speak your wishes. I shall grant it".
    Rather than gold or political power, Solomon sought wisdom more than anything. God was satisfied. For that answer itself was proof that he had the qualifications to attain "true wisdom".
    When he woke up, Solomon had ten rings inserted on both hands. They were the proof of the wise man recognized by God. Later, those would be called Ring of Solomon, the source of the magecraft that employs angels and demons.

    Chaldea’s heroic spirit summoning; its first successful example.
    Secretly summoned by Marisbilly Animusphere, the Grand magus that participated and achieved victory on the Holy Grail War of Fuyuki.

    The wish he entrusted to the Holy Grail was “to become human”.
    Through the power of the Holy Grail, he did not “incarnated as a heroic spirit”, but instead was reborn as a new human that had no relation to King Solomon.

    Such was Romani Archman.
    A quite ordinary young man, who wished to live as an “individual” that did not have anything of peculiar.

    ...however.
    The man who began his second life was unable to know the “happiness, fulfillment as a human” that was never given to him in his previous lifetime.
    Because the future of “mankind’s demise”, which he caught a glimpse of right before becoming human, stole any kind of freedom from him.

    Introverted, self-assured and passive.
    A laid-back king, without a hint of seriousness.
    The gist of his personality is “self-assured”, but this is simply the power to “no read the mood”.
    Thus, he is merely making statements on a self-assured manner, and his nature is that of a chicken. Although serious, he is not earnest and is constantly living at 80% power.
    He properly ascertained people, properly established laws and properly governed the country. Despite lacking in vigor, he was loved and respected by the masses as a wise, gentle king who was full of love.

    ...yet, none of those traits came from Solomon’s own will.
    Having been ordained as a king from the moment he was born, Solomon had no choice but to hear the voice of God and act accordingly.
    His psyche is dispassionate and (having been deprived of the freedom to sympathize with the joys and sorrows of people) inhuman.

    After becoming human, Solomon finally acquired the human nature called romance.
    At his roots, he is a realist and a pessimist.
    Despite uttering wishful thinkings as a mood-maker, he seems somewhat shameless due to inwardly thinking of them as pipe dreams.
    While he likes humans, because of his chicken side that “does not want to see something sad”, he maintains a superficial socializing with anyone. In exchange, he can get along with anyone.
    An archetypal “everybody’s friend(1)”.
    He has a bad habit of, when caught in a dilemma, ending up choosing to either “stick to observing without making any decisions” or “running away” so that “the status quo is preserved”.
    Since Roman himself is reflecting on such weakness of his, if someone in his surroundings were to just say a word - “Please, do your best” - he will somehow get a hold of himself and show a decisive judgment fitting of the king of magecraft.

    Incidentally, because the first impression that any Servant ends up getting about Roman is “I don’t get the reason, but he is at fault here”, they unconsciously complained at him.
    The only ones who did not find fault at him were those who were no Servants, crackpots and Berserkers that do not perceive evil as evil.

    CLASS SKILLS

    Territory Creation: A
    Creates an advantageous encampment to oneself as a magus.
    Having built the Temple of Israel, he is regarded as a greatest authority in regards to Territory Creation.

    High-Speed Aria: C
    A technique to hasten magic aria. Despite being fast, sometimes he makes a mistake due his worrywart nature and ruins everything.

    Item Construction: C
    Produces devices that carry magical power. Maybe because he has specialized in contracts, his Item Construction ability is of average level.

    NOBLE PHANTASM

    Are Nova - The Time of Parting Has Come, He Is the One Who Lets Go of the World
    Rank:
    D
    Type: Anti-Unit
    The first Noble Phantasm of King Solomon.
    Rather than Goetia, this is a Noble Phantasm possessed by the true King Solomon.
    A poem of farewell in which he relinquishes of all the exploits accomplished, all the miracles performed, all the magecrafts established until then.

    Upon invoking his Noble Phantasm, Solomon sends all the graces bestowed by God back to heavens and loses the eyes that gaze at the world.
    The result is King Solomon’s death.
    From another angle, this also means the self-destruction of the 72 demons.
    It can also be described as a safety device prepared by Solomon, in order to destroy “magecraft” when it becomes an evil for humans in the distant future.
    When this is employed as a Noble Phantasm, all traces of King Solomon are extinguished from this world.
    ---even from the Throne of Heroes.


    (1): the original uses an expression that can also mean “faultless beauty”


    Goetia


    Goetia

    The aggregate-body of the 72 demons.
    After King Solomon’s death, the 72 demons that were sealed away inside his corpse awakened to their own ideology, swindled Solomon’s name (although, from their point of view, they are the true King of Magecraft Solomon) and embarked on a new venture to convert the entire mankind into energy.

    To begin with, the 72 demons were “a system to efficiently promote proper reason” invented by the founder of (human) magecraft, Solomon.
    Said system grieved and raged against the relationship between King Solomon and humans, becoming a curse that takes action to conquer “the imperfectness of humans” that King Solomon continued to ignore.

    Its name is anthropic principle incineration formula, Goetia.
    A magecraft with its own will that was devised in order to attain true wisdom, and is now attempting to reach the origin while making use of the entire human history.

    A Beast that called itself King of Demons.
    He possesses an almightiness that causes the entire logic of the universe to obey him, and a sense of intimidation that seems to say that he hates all of mankind.
    Ten rings have been inserted on the fingers of his two hands, but that on the middle finger of his right hand alone is a replica.

    Since he has King Solomon as a base, his personality is intellectual (albeit frightening).
    That being said, as he is the aggregate-body of the 72 demons, his personality・disposition amounts to 72.
    Because he is an individual and a colony, whenever talking to others, a “demon” resembling the other party comes to surface.
    This is the reason why Goetia’s disposition is evaluated as that of a “mirror”.

    He is an omnipotent being that even King Solomon could not reach. Originally, he would have more than enough qualifications as a king that rules over men.
    However, he could not understand humans due being almighty, could not achieve an answer due being immortal, and thus was unable to become “a human king”.

    Goetia’s objective is to reach the apex---
    To become the sole existence in this planet.
    Despite knowing of their helplessness, their ugliness, Solomon accepted humans without correcting them.
    But the demons could not accept this, and eventually concluded that there is no value to humans and the future, and feared the result called extinction.
    Their own extinction was a matter of course, but they felt repugnance over the conclusion of “everything disappearing”.

    And thus, Goetia resumed activity by making king Solomon’s corpse into his nest, but there was a great dilemma in his way of being.

    In spite of asserting that humans had no value, the demons could not exist without being employed by humans.
    The disgrace of having to remain under humans - the sole and greatest “waste of resources” in this universe - despite being life forms of a higher dimension.
    Goetia could not accept such contradictions and unfaithfulness, and set out on a quest of self-reform.

    Reset the objective of serving humans.
    Absolute proof that he is the highest existence in this planet.
    Reaching the apex that not even Solomon could attain.
    In other words, the beginning of the great venture of becoming God.

    And thus, Goetia---
    The enterprise of the one who called himself King of Magecraft Solomon began.
    He built holy grails as singularities that distorted history, embedded on human history magi that he designed (to transform into demons according to Goetia’s will) as offsprings and produced seven detonation points.
    That is the cause behind the collapse of the cornerstones of anthropic principle in each eras.
    When said scheme was concluded, mankind lost the future beyond 2016.

    His Class was determined by the achievements described above.
    Grand Caster and the likes are nothing but fake ranks.
    Created by humans, this is the great disaster that has most effectively misused human history.

    Its name is Beast I.
    One of the seven human vices, the beast carrying the principle of “pity” (the extravagance of humans pitying humans and being disappointed. Such is Goetia’s beastiality).

    SKILLS

    Evocation: EX
    A magecraft that evokes spiritual bodies from the past, or possibly from the future.
    After the death of King Solomon, the concept of “72 demons” that he left behind(1) nested inside the remains of King Solomon and was reborn after a long time as “someone” that put on the mask of King Solomon.
    Although he cannot perform heroic spirit summoning nor invoke normal familiars, he can freely summon any of the 72 demons on the present age.
    Maybe it is easier to understand if described as a converter that projects the “fictional demons” nested within King Solomon’s inner world on the physical world.

    Revelation: -
    A skill to hear the voice of heavens and take optimum action.
    Because this is a skill held by the soul, Goetia - who nested on King Solomon’s remains - cannot use it.

    Clairvoyance: EX
    Because Clairvoyance is a skill furnished on the flesh, Goetia can also use it.

    NOBLE PHANTASM

    Ars Almadel Salomonis - The Time of Birth Has Come, He Is The One Who Masters Everything
    Rank:
    EX
    Type: Anti-Unit
    Third Noble Phantasm. The "|" of original sin. A belt of light that announces mankind’s demise.
    As something that converted the entire human history into heat values, a time travel of vast amounts of years is made possible by collecting, accelerating and converging some hundred millions of this belt of light.

    (1): not as “leaving behind an inheritance”, but rather this has a connotation more along the lines of “deserting” or “departing somewhere and leaving another behind”;
    Thanks for the TL. So Solomon could be considered to be an opposite to Gilgamesh in that he holds back on his powers but instead of it caused by having to much of a Ego but rather the lack of one.

    The main difference between this and the Grand version is mainly the skills. That makes me wonder if Solomon can't use those other skills unless he's a Grand.
    Last edited by Iceblade44; December 29th, 2016 at 08:17 PM.
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    No he's just a coward. It's (emotionally) easier to go at half-burn and say "oh I tried" than to go full blast and fail anyways. Roman's that kind of guy. Same reason he doesn't try to cultivate deep relationships. Afraid of getting hurt.

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    Also the grand thing was never true per se, it's even pointed out in Goetia's profile.
    Take the three profiles in conjunction. There's limited space, so obviously they won't repeat everything, and in Grand Caster's Solomon's case was explicitly bending the truth to keep the twist under wraps.
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