The Tohsaka stayed on track until Rin!Originally Posted by I3uster
Tokiomi did his best.
The Tohsaka stayed on track until Rin!
Tokiomi did his best.
Ragnarok, come day of wrath
That fallen souls might bear our plea.
To hasten the Divine's return.
O piteous Wanderer.
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We do in several Spanish dialects, it's called yeísmo.
I'm no linguist so bear with me.
AFAIK, the start of the Classic Latin version, Iustitia (lit. justice), would be pronounced like the Japanese yu. Although Church Latin would write it as justitia (remember Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade).
Then there's that -tsa. It sounds more like an Italian-ish -za than a Latin -tia, hence my proposal of Justiza. You could go full Italian and make it Giustiza or Giustizia (the latter of which is the actual Italian for justice), but I don't think that "giu" could be pronounced as Japanese "yu" under any circumstances. I remember many BL people used to call her Justizia, for the record.
But yeah, Susan.
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don't quote me on this
This of course begs the question of what happens to the Einzbern "family" now that Illya is gone.
I would guess they just start breaking down and the entire estate goes to seed, but it could also be a cool post-HGW5 jumping off point about Shirou or Waver or whoever else investigating the decrepit Einzbern manor to search out any survivors or raid the place for cool alchemical loot. Most magi seem like they would be opportunistic enough for it.
I don't know how to spell Justzeae or whatever consistantly.
and I definitely don't know how to spell Jubstacheit. Maybe i'll just used "Acht's terminal"
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I;m busy today so i'll let koto take care of the next page and a half of the einzbern history.
This is like 4 dictionary entries long.
Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.
Oh that's kinda indirectly mentioned. The Einzberns had a family of human magus "tuners" living near the castle who work for them by doing stuff for them in town cause they can't go out themselves (they're also pretty good magi). And there's only one guy left who was also like a butler who taught them about the world, and it's unknown what he decided to do "after Illya lost and Jubstacheit shut himself down".
So uh RIP Einzberns I guess.
The Einzberns seemed like dicks when I first started reading Fate. All of this supplementary stuff just makes me feel bad for them.
Thank you, Koto
someone write sad fanfiction about that guy
[04:55] Lianru: i3uster is actuallly quite cute
Find me a sad fanfiction about a guy that Leo wrote and ill make a sad fanfiction about that guy.
An Ode To A Nasuverse Magus Trapped in the Dreary Reality of The US Military
makes sense
canon already dictates that seamen contain tremendous magical energy
[04:55] Lianru: i3uster is actuallly quite cute
thank you tobias that was wait
Localizationing stuff
The US navy actually has more magical energy than the clocktower, discuss.
drake's fire ships were actually suicide magical energy bombings by her crew.
Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.
Yes but how could he harness all those seamen...
Ok since You asked me to summarize the rest I'm gonna do it, it's super shaky though
So 500 years after the magi were gone, the homunculi make a plan to use Justeaze to reproduce the Third on a wide scale. They figure they can't replicate her after all, so they were gonna keep her forever, but they're robots and will pick whatever has the highest probability of success so they reach a consensus to use her. (Actually Jubstacheit was the only one against it)
Since Justeaze can only use the third on one person over decades, they use her to make a bigger ritual to save multiple people at once. They plan to disassemble Justeaze's circuits, and make a "humanoid universe" (???), which is the great grail. (I think this is where You got the "grail in space" thing from but I'm p sure she is the space, I don't really get it though)
But they needed a human to help get it off the ground because they can't enter human society on their own, and in 1800 Zolken comes along. He's mostly given up on trying to eliminate evil by that point but the Einzberns were his last hope. So they have Makiri as a partner and Tohsaka as a cooperator and built the great grail, but they needed magical energy and a lesser grail to control it. So Makiri and Tohsaka make the grail war to gather magical energy, Einzbern makes the lesser grail. And after 10 years they do the grail war and it works, but they fail because magi fight over who gets to use the grail, because Einzberns are pure robots who didn't realize obviously humans are going to do that.
So the Einzberns have no Justeaze so while working to restart the great grail they go back to their original focus on manufacturing a perfect homunculus. Which brings us to Illya and Iri. And then there's the bit about the tuners that I mentioned which is basically just Nasu going "oh here's a little anecdote that has nothing to do with anything, BTW AFTER ILLYA DIES JUBSTACHEIT SHUTS DOWN"
And then at the end Nasu gets poetic and is like, hey, say there was a doll that said "I love you", you'd realize pretty soon that it's just repeating prerecorded phrases and the emotions it expresses are fake, and you get tired and throw it out, right? Well that's because you're looking at it from a human perspective, but machines don't lie and just innocently do what they've been told to do. And a machine loses its value (life) not when they become obsolete, but when humans can no longer stand that purity.
So. Sad robots.
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Well, it's the opposite. Jubstacheit is the castle's main brain, Acht is one of the terminals. That's why he's called eight, he's meat puppet #8.
Also I don't think there's even an official spelling so don't worry about spelling it wrong.
Last edited by Kotonoha; October 26th, 2015 at 01:42 PM.
Shouldn't this convo be in the UBW anime thread?
don't quote me on this
But then Reddit will find it and then it will probably turn out I made some huge lore mistake but it will be everywhere and become fanon and I can never take it back.
So I guess this is what they meant by the Acht turning off the power source thing in Illyas flashback?
I wish I had known this stuff when I started writing Hearts. Although I think I can make it work with a few adjustments.
Localizationing stuff
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