Reinforcement Potion, obviously. Additional speed, strength and vitality for a short time. Hopefully, reaction speed too.
Mana Potion, because what's life without blue bottles? Stimulates prana recovery for several hours.
Blood-clotting vial, if you want to be particularly boring.
Competence Elixir, to allow Shinji to make his own choices without player input for 3 updates.
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If I wasn't certain that we will stumble on an aquatic floor, I would have voted for something like...
Pocket Lake, contains a liquid that creates a massive amount of water on contact with air. Or when shaken. Heated? Whatever.
Wow, that's a pretty unwieldy thing to prepare and deploy; better shelf it.
The Water Trial level as you noted is missing but fear not it is the next one up on Alf's list. So yeah after this little breather we will soon be drowning in water.
Competence Elixer already exists it is called Felix Felicis.And even if we had a competence Elixir, I am sure we would just hoard it like we tend to do and not use it.
I will have to think about this tomorrow on what kind of potions would be on par to what Shinji can make even with great ingredients. After all, it is easy for us to request the moon, harder to brew said moon. And in a limited time window. The better the request, the less likely we are to brew multiply smaller potions to increase options and versitiality.
No, Felix is another matter entirely. It syncs the user to "Luck" to allow him to make the best possible decisions.
But this one? It greatly increases perception, cognitive abilities, enhances memory and pattern recognition for a short while. It doesn't make you more knowledgeable, it makes your thinking clearer and faster. Puts the nervous system on fire too, probably.
*cough* Limitless *cough*
I mean, look at Alchemy's partitions/thought acceleration, it's basically the capstone of that skill tree in a bottle.
Last edited by Malorius; September 23rd, 2018 at 04:21 AM.
Hard to give a specific list but I'm fine with a core of debuff / ailments / destruction potions (since it's where Shinji can shine the most). There's a lot he could do but I would aim for practical applications since we are in a dungeon. Having a few that can help in more than combat (in case we aim to stealth or blitz past an obstacle) would be good too.
Alf, can we get something like a time of brewing attached to potions, so that we could choose the most practical combination? Not just "pick two" of a very limited selection or something.
Not sure if such system was implemented in the story before.
Fire/cold resistance tonic. Pretty obvious application. Saves strength in unfriendly environment.
Sprinter's philter. Higher stamina, perfect air regulation, no burning lungs in the process of exertion. Allows to leverage every last bit of energy in your body - until you drop dead with nothing more to give.
Cat's eye. Low light vision. Additional effects may include enhanced hearing and scent, for better orientation in the dark. (Or it can all be broken in several separate potions.)
Hydra's blood. Acid. Ridiculously strong acid, seriously. If you think we can't find a use for such a thing, think again
The trouble with giving you a brewing time is that it can vary widely, depending on the quality you were willing to accept - it is very much a trade-off. In fact there are a number of variables involved in brewing and outcomes.
Among the things you can affect are duration of effect, magnitude of effect, shelf-life (how long a potion stays good for), brewing time, volatility, etc.
Certain potions - like Felix Felicis - are an exception, as the luck potion needs to be stewed forsix months before it is safe for consumption, and if it is disturbed during that time, it is more volatile than liquid nitroglycerin. Meddling with luck/fate is a very delicate process, after all. You can't make it in large amounts, or take it in large quantities at a time.
Something like an explosive potion can be much easier to make in large batches, because the effect is much, much simpler conceptually.
Resistance tonics aren't hard to do. An hourish, maybe. Your potion ability may also depends how many cauldrons and such you have on you.
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"You are braver than you believe, stronger than you seem, and smarter than you think." - A.A. Milne
Right, backwards wizards can't produce substance in batches, have to make a full cauldron, waste time and ingredients. Also, taking into account all the other variables... Well. That makes things much worse for utility stuff and better for instantaneous effects, actually.
Explosive potions of Doom it is, it seems.
You might be able to, but as you often have to infuse your magic into the potion to make something that works, that tends to limit how much you are creating.Originally Posted by Malorius
...and yes, Sokaris could whip up a truly epic explosion potion, even with mundane ingredients. With Thaumatagoria...
"You are braver than you believe, stronger than you seem, and smarter than you think." - A.A. Milne
So-o. How high are our chances to create Elixir of Transference? Is our Chuuni meter filled enough?
With the ingredients on hand, creating it is possible. You'd have to think of it though - which is easier when using Luck Potion!
"You are braver than you believe, stronger than you seem, and smarter than you think." - A.A. Milne
Oh rea-ally.
Guys. I have a majestic idea how we can die horribly in the Dungeon in pursuit of long term gains! All we have to do is use our limited supply of FF to waste our limited supply of time on a potion that will be absolutely useless until we climb out of the dungeon. But the possible gains... Are marvelous!
Ugh, sometimes common sense is such a mood killer.
How much would it take, actually? Will we have anything left of Felix, if we commit to brewing one of the greater potions?
I am ok if we try to make the elixir of transference or the final recipe of the potion of fading.
The best ingredients are here so maybe this is the best chance to brew those potions.
Given brewing times, let's say it would take at least half your stock of Felix to brew something that high level.
"You are braver than you believe, stronger than you seem, and smarter than you think." - A.A. Milne
P-potion of All Potential? That one would solve a lot of problems, if we manage to get several dozes.
Not least of its applications will be a glimpse at the possible ultimate abilities of each skill tree. Will help with build votes immensely.
Last edited by Malorius; September 24th, 2018 at 11:30 AM.
I'm not saying such a potion is impossible. However, if you do go for it, know that you're likely not making a very large amount, and that you'll probably be foregoing any of the other utility potions.
"You are braver than you believe, stronger than you seem, and smarter than you think." - A.A. Milne
Looks fair.
Alf is this a vote?.
Because I am totally in board to brew something new.
Think of it as an informal vote.
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