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    Quote Originally Posted by Kotonoha View Post
    I think you are putting too much stock into time being linear and objects being real inside a fairytale reality marble that fucks with time.


    All through that arc he's been agonizing over being the only one who doesn't have a wish which is enough to make one feel like a 偽者 in my opinion.
    You are assuming too much is what I'm saying
    Your theory is possible, but it requires alot of assumptions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenieth View Post
    So how were the two speeches this episode?

    Nero and Twice's?
    I suggest watching that scene with subs to get the experience of the atmosphere because explaining those speeches kinda ruins the moment but nonetheless
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    The gist:
    Nero's speech: Hakuno was feeling down because he is not "similar" to Saber's previous Master. Saber reassures him that no person is similar to another and he just needs to do what he can.
    Twice's speech: Twice explains Dead Face and says that Hakuno is basically an accumulation of Hatred of Masters who lost to him and that Hakuno's basic motivation is to kill only. Also that he always waited for someone who can fulfill his wishes but nobody came(important in context of the original game), this he decided to to shut the Moon cell down, this moon cell lost it's function to clean the grudges of the dead. Then twice puts Hakuno down that he is not a living person, not the original Hakuno and he will basically never win against him. Calls him a loser as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedKaZero View Post
    I suggest watching that scene with subs to get the experience of the atmosphere because explaining those speeches kinda ruins the moment but nonetheless
    Spoiler:
    The gist:
    Nero's speech: Hakuno was feeling down because he is not "similar" to Saber's previous Master. Saber reassures him that no person is similar to another and he just needs to do what he can.
    Twice's speech: Twice explains Dead Face and says that Hakuno is basically an accumulation of Hatred of Masters who lost to him and that Hakuno's basic motivation is to kill only. Also that he always waited for someone who can fulfill his wishes but nobody came(important in context of the original game), this he decided to to shut the Moon cell down, this moon cell lost it's function to clean the grudges of the dead. Then twice puts Hakuno down that he is not a living person, not the original Hakuno and he will basically never win against him. Calls him a loser as well.
    Mmh does he say that thinking he's lost his potential compared to OG Hakuno (also LE makes me feel they get rekt much more each floor, but maybe that was because of gameplay back in time) or being half-dead gives him some kind of limitations?

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    So we know how Gilgamesh was getting corrupted in his extella sub-story then and likely how he's probably going to turn out
    And also this is the third real time we've seen malignant information being used. TATARI, BB, and now the accumulation of grudges turning into a body and also the shifting of a body into malignant information. Pretty happy about that, since what I wrote about in my fanfic a year ago turned out to be pretty spot on.

    Also Dead Face Dead Phase pun is good
    Quote Originally Posted by FSF 5, Chapter 14: Gold and Lions I
    Dumas flashed a fearless grin at Flat and Jack as he rattled off odd turns of phrase.
    "And most importantly, it's me who'll be doing the cooking."
    Though abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
    Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
    Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.


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    Quote Originally Posted by onepieceuc1 View Post
    Mmh does he say that thinking he's lost his potential compared to OG Hakuno (also LE makes me feel they get rekt much more each floor, but maybe that was because of gameplay back in time) or being half-dead gives him some kind of limitations?
    Hmm... nothing about losing his potential but more like his purpose is only to kill(due to the grudges) and there is nothing else remaining for him and that he will lose to twice regardless

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    I heard the Deadface took Hakuno's form because it admired him and tried to copy him.

    We're going into full Shirou/Kiritsugu circle it seems.
    Last edited by Kromy; March 17th, 2018 at 05:36 PM.

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    That wasn't in the episode and also Hakuno is a girl as far as I know, so

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kromy View Post
    I heard the Deadface took Hakuno's form because it admired him and tried to copy him.

    We're going into full Shirou/Kiritsugu circle it seems.
    No?
    "HAKUNO is a collection of undeleted hate and grudges of the defeated who also has a component of Hakuno without soul" is what twice said
    Dead face is an ability born from accumulating all those geudges(which is the reason Julius is able to use Dead face because of his own negative emotion and that his soul is dead)
    Last edited by RedKaZero; March 17th, 2018 at 07:14 PM.

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    Not saw yet, but knowin that Hakunon has a voice makes me happy

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    Did Hakunon really never appear in some CD Drama or something like that before?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinetree View Post
    Did Hakunon really never appear in some CD Drama or something like that before?
    She appeared in the Fate Grand Order Blue Bird Drama CD, but she didn't talk, or better, spoke so quietly Tamamo had to "translate" her speech (so she didn't have a VA)

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinetree View Post
    Did Hakunon really never appear in some CD Drama or something like that before?
    Well she has, but
    https://youtu.be/UonAPQkH1lc?t=715

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    What happen to Nero?
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    She was hit by Shuwen (well, blocked it but seemingly took the impact anyway) when defending Hakuno earlier in the episode and basically was just holding on until that point.

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    Oooohh

    poor Nero . Maybe Rin will save them (again) because she is the only can move
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    Well she did get smashed through a wall by Shuwen so let's hope her Lancer cosplay really does give her Battle Continuation.

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    Li is an absolute beast in here and I love it.I love crazy awesome martial artists who need no weapons to be very dangerous. Julius getting to join the action is good too
    Spoiler:

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    DINO GETTER,FUCK YESS
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    this episode had too much information, my brain does not compute lol.

    Rin should've won if she used bajiquan.

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    Seems like female Hakuno may have survived in some form, as a sort of alt-universe entity;

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    Quote Originally Posted by AmADo VII View Post
    this episode had too much information, my brain does not compute lol.

    Rin should've won if she used bajiquan.
    Use Bajiquan against Master of Bajiquan, yeah good idea
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