New Registration System implemented

[Blue]

Yes and no. It is certainly not impossible and very well within the limits of a bot. Would someone have programmed a bot to do this? I find that unlikely, but I'm not well versed with the mentality of bot programmers.

[Mike1984]

Well, I'm sure that questions of the form "what is the name of x" are reasonably common, so I could imagine they trying it.

[Altima of the Gates]

I think some of these might be a bit hard for people who only know one Nasuverse work. Say, someone who joins just to ask a question about MB or something.

I'm all for helping people, but the 1000th person who makes the account just for that and then lurking indefinitely (and who makes duplicates for the fuck of it, given how many I've found for just June alone)is honestly better off just hanging around, given the cycle of recurring information here. Besides, given the interaction most of us have with wakachan (admit it, a lot of you guys are on there a good deal of the time) would be better off getting their answers there than going to the trouble of making an account(yes, it is an image board, but due to lack of mod and the fact that people argue Nasuverse stuff about as much as GD does, I'd say the one-off topics are fine there).

[Mike1984]

Erm, I'd like to point out that I don't know the answer to several of the questions, and further have only played one of the Nasuverse works. It's not only people who join just to ask one question who will be in that position.

Also, whilst some people might join, ask one question and then never post again, equally there are people who will join with that intent and then get sucked in. Indeed, when I first joined I did so (IIRC) solely to post my fanfic and get feedback on it. I just happened to get involved in debates etc., and it went from there.

[Lavender]

You could always have math questions, too. I see those used on other forums.

"What is the sum of 5 and 8?", etc.

[Neir]

How about naming a sport or fish or something?

[SeiKeo]

Shame on you that don't know who Mikiya's sister is. Shame. On. You.

[TypeWannabe]

In all fairness to mike, he doesn't actually care about the majority of the nasuverse, and the only times he gets into Tsukihime or KnK are when they threaten his viewpoints or are about physics. Mike-sama makes physics his fucktoy.

[SeiKeo]

Not necessarily just Mike, also the rest of the people that don't know.

[Tobias]

I don't know mikiya's sister either.

[Mike1984]

In all fairness to mike, he doesn't actually care about the majority of the nasuverse, and the only times he gets into Tsukihime or KnK are when they threaten his viewpoints or are about physics. Mike-sama makes physics his fucktoy.

Well, I do intend to play Tsukihime at some point, but I doubt I'll ever care as much as I do about FSN, and about Sakura in particular.

[Altima of the Gates]

Is that a challenge Mike? Shall we have a betting pool on who you shall support once you finish Tsukihime? Hmm?

But seriously, I do have to retract my statement, there are still people who haven't played any of the games yet. Hell, there are people here now who haven't, and have been for years. Making Nasuverse related questions might be too frustrating. But delegating it to random questions seem too easy.

[Cruor]

I don't know mikiya's sister either.

I could've sworn you watched KnK. You seriously don't know Azaka?

[Mike1984]

But seriously, I do have to retract my statement, there are still people who haven't played any of the games yet. Hell, there are people here now who haven't, and have been for years. Making Nasuverse related questions might be too frustrating.

Well, it depends what you ask.

For instance, if you ask "what is the name of Sakura's brother", I can't imagine many TM fans wouldn't know that, and even those who didn't could look it up. But, at the same time, it would be basically impossible for a spambot to answer, because without context the answer is ambiguous.

Another one would be something like "what is the surname of the hero of FSN", and ditto for Tsukihime (or, indeed, KnK). Those are things you can't possibly not know, even if you've not played the games, and even if you don't you can just look them up.

But delegating it to random questions seem too easy.

Well, finding random questions that everyone knows the answer to and which aren't utterly trivial for a spambot is actually quite difficult.

[Tobias]

Till like 3 episode, or thereabouts, before I completely lost interest and couldn't stand to watch anymore, got no idea on azaka

[TypeWannabe]

Azaka is said sister.

[SeiKeo]

Till like 3 episode, or thereabouts, before I completely lost interest and couldn't stand to watch anymore, got no idea on azaka

Find it in your heart to watch Paradox Spiral (No. 5). Best one out of the lot.

[Tobias]

eh, half the reason I gave up on KnK is I couldnt follow what the hell was going on thanks to the fact that they felt no need to follow any kind of chronological coherence, what are the odds adding two movies of what the hell is gonna make me feel any better?

[SeiKeo]

If you want to watch them in order, it's:

2
4
3
1
5
6
7

[Dark Pulse]

Nrvnqsr is a ______ Apostole Ancestor.

Typo aside, I suppose that this one will do. Added.

Now I'm not sure that the question I posted was right...maybe

X1 In F/SN, the protagonist participates in the _____ Holy Grail War.

X2 Matou Sakura was originally named ______ Sakura.

X3 Sasaki Kojirou is Servant __________.

X1: That one, I'm not so sure a basic fan would know. Yeah, they'd remember Holy Grail War, but what one?

X2: Major Spoiler. Denied.

X3: Nobody, since that's not Sasaki Kojirou.

finish this sentance.

mystic eyes of death _________

I'd actually thought about adding that one. It's somewhat of a minor spoiler, but spoiler enough for me to nix it.

Number 8 is "entry level"? I don't know that one. Also, you have to be careful with multiple spellings for questions like number 9 (possibly you should make it clear in the question which convention you're using).

Unless otherwise specified, I'll go by the "official" westernizations of the name (save for Yumiduka, because that's just WRONG) and/or the Mirror Moon translations. Obviously, I couldn't use the family name for that question, as there's technically 3-4 characters that could have been.

If in doubt, the ones I'll go by are the ones the Type-Moon Wiki uses, so basically, bust out those h's and u's.

I'd say that something like "name the main character of Fate/Stay Night" or similar would be a good idea (anyone who says "Saber" should be banned immediately ).

Technically, three characters can be the "main character" even though we're in the POV of only one of them. Well, two, actually.

Well, I don't think that is a problem (after all, the KnK question is far more obscure) so much as the fact that you're potentially forcing them to look up a major HF spoiler just to register is. I mean, yeah, they'll spoiler it soon enough if they join, but they should at least have the choice.

Something like "what is the name of Sakura's brother" would work, though.

...No, it's really not obscure. Anyone who's watched more than a few episodes would know that, and put bluntly, if you don't figure it out by Episode 6, you're an idiot.

Still, one can simply hit Type-Moon Wiki, look up Mikiya, and get the answer. Which is more effort than most spammers will go through.

Finish this phrase: Unlimited _____ Works

Tough call. Obvious to those who played through the game, but someone who only knows of it casually probably won't know that.

Tohno shiki refers to aoko as _________

Pretty much pointless. It's a somewhat easy question, but Aoko really only figures into Tsukihime twice.

Tsukihime has _____ routes.Fate/Stay Night has _____ routes.

Technically, six and four. Plus, I asked, and I can't have a multiple-answer question, regardless of if it's two answers, or multiple correct answers to a question. (I asked the developer of the plugin and he said this isn't possible, sadly.)

How about....Emiya Shirou has a hobby of _________ .
OR
Tohsaka Rin is terrible with _________ .

As was said, too vague/obscure.

Howsabout we do what every other forum does and have answers ANYBODY could answer. Like, what's the capital of Virginia, who was the first President...etc.

Because that's BORING.

Although, I'm not too clear how this works. Is it like most captchas, where you get another chance if you fail, or do you only get one shot? If it's the first, then we can afford a few questions which people might get wrong, but if it's the second then we have to be much more careful.

AFAIK, if you bork it, it'll just give you a new question.

Because it's a TM forum, so it makes sense to have TM-specific questions?

If we use generic questions, then it makes it easier for spambots to get around them, especially since a genuinely universal question (i.e. one which anyone in the world could answer, even people with relatively limited command of English and no knowledge of American/British History or Geography) needs to be extremely simple.

Ding. Put it this way: It's harder for them to answer these than for them to know what state the city of Kankakee is in.

(PS: Illinois.)

I dunno, Brunestud is a hotspot for making errors when writing out and is annoyingly strange.

Would you rather have to complete __________ Chaos?

Probably because it's me (who argues this stuff all the time) but I'm divided between katana/sword and knife.

She's usually only carrying one of these, though.

I woulda put 'Complete the following title:' and put 'MELTY _____' to make it easier but this is good.

Eh, debatable. Though that said, one shouldn't underestimate the number of players who got started via Melty. (I did, after all...)

Yeah, you have a point here. Plus, it's an uncommon enough name that a spam-bot could just goodle "Arcueid"

It's not about stopping all spambots, just the majority. What we've put up should stop probably about 95% of automated spambots, though, as while a bot could google it, it'd have to somehow understand the question - which would mean the bot has to understand language, which is pretty much too damn complex. And, of course, a human spammer is slower.

Basically, I'm willing to take the small chance that a spammer can google that, because it's still going to stop automated bots.

Erm, I'd like to point out that I don't know the answer to several of the questions, and further have only played one of the Nasuverse works. It's not only people who join just to ask one question who will be in that position.

If I made them all centric around one game, people would complain. Let's face it. At the same time, none of these are stuff that someone couldn't look up.

Be happy I'm not throwing in Decoration Disorder Disconnection, Angel Notes, and Canaan.

You could always have math questions, too. I see those used on other forums.

"What is the sum of 5 and 8?", etc.

Math is my worst subject, and I refuse to use it any more than I have to. Plus, as has been said, a spambot could probably pretty easily understand and automate that.

Well, I do intend to play Tsukihime at some point, but I doubt I'll ever care as much as I do about FSN, and about Sakura in particular.

Oh, I have a feeling you may be wrong here.

Is that a challenge Mike? Shall we have a betting pool on who you shall support once you finish Tsukihime? Hmm?

One of the Far-Side heroines, would be my guess.

Find it in your heart to watch Paradox Spiral (No. 5). Best one out of the lot.

Listen to this man. Episode 5 is what made this series go from "This is great for Nasuverse fans" to "Holy hell, I need to suck people in with this series." Two of the best hours of entertainment I've ever had.