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    All of creation surrounded him, and the throng of angels who had come forth from him. So, he declared to them and throughout all the spheres of heaven and the abyss; “I am a jealous god and there is no other god beside me.” But by announcing this, he suggested to the angels with him that there is another god. For if there were no other god, of whom would he be jealous?


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    - Alter Ego -

    Yaldabaoth

    Alternate Classes: Saver, Beast
    Alignment: Chaotic Evil
    Alias: Demiurge, God of Control, Archon, Child of Chaos, First Ruler, Ignorant Darkness, Samael, Sakla
    Origin: Gnosticism

    Parameters

    Strength: (E)
    Endurance: (E)
    Agility: (E)
    Mana: (E)
    Luck: (E)
    NP: (E)

    Gender: Inapplicable; referred to as “Male”
    Likes: Control, Power, Noah
    Dislikes: Disobedience
    Talents: Pretending to be God
    Natural Enemy: Satanael, Grigori, YHWH, Sophia, Jesus Christ
    Attribute: Sky
    Components: Corrupted fragments of Sophia

    Skills

    Class Skills

    Independent Manifestation: (A)
    A special skill that permits unsupported manifestation into reality, without necessity of energy cost or of summoning by a Master; effectively, the Skill serves as an enhanced version of Independent Action. Being that the skill holder is signified as a confirmed existence, a resistance is rendered against the instantaneous imposition of death and attacks affected by time manipulation.

    Godly Divine Core: (A-)
    A skill that expresses one's nature as a perfected god from birth. A composite that includes the skill Divinity, preserves the absoluteness of the mind and body, repels mental interference and protects the body from growth or change no matter how many calories are ingested. Originally, Alter Ego was the child of Sophia (Wisdom); an eternal Being of purity and incorruptibility, a member of the transcendent Godhead. At birth, the offspring took great power from the mother, using it to create other realms with luminous fire for himself. However, Alter Ego is wicked and evil; corruption and chaos in its purest form. All the atrocities he committed further emphasizes this, as he lives in arrogance and shrouds his true heritage in falsehoods as the first impurity to stain the heavens. Because of this, it would be more appropriate to classify him as a True Demon rather than a god.

    Authority of the Jealous God: (A)
    An Anti-Divinity skill brought about by Alter Ego’s nature. It can be seen as a variation of the Authority of the Beast skill. Alter Ego gains a damage boost against Divine Spirits, and all things that originated outside of the World. Also, it works against those who are worshipped as gods. All his summons and subordinates inherit this skill.

    Personal Skills

    Summoning: (EX)
    A magecraft that evokes spiritual bodies from the past, or possibly from the future. Alter Ego, by default, can summon 7 Divine Spirits.

    Seven of them reign over the seven heavens as their kings, one for each sphere. Known as the Hebdomad, they are called Archons or “Rulers”. Each of them designate the seven planetary divinities as well as a corresponding power.

    Athoth who is goodness and the Moon
    Elaios who is forethought and Mercury
    Astaphaios who is divinity and Venus
    Yao who is lordship and Jupiter
    Sabaoth who is kingdom and Mars
    Adonaios who is jealousy and the Sun
    Sabbataios who is understanding and Saturn

    All the Archons are capable familiars whose power level exceeds that of even the mightiest of servants, with the Hebdomad being the strongest. Each possess their own distinct personalities, but share a hivemind connected with Alter Ego. Despite this, when giving orders from Alter Ego, they behave almost like automatons, absolute obedience in whatever Alter Ego tells them to do. Another thing, each of them have the ability to generate their own army of angels, up to maximum total of 365 at a time. These angels are nowhere near as strong as the Archons, although their power is on average equivalent to that of a mid to high tier servant.

    Omni-Creator: (EX)
    The personal skill of Alter Ego that expresses the Divine Authority of the Child of Chaos as “a self-proclaimed omnipotent being”. In his early years of life, before creation itself, Alter Ego flaunted his false authority as the Supreme Being, performing the first and ultimate act of blasphemy, denouncing YHWH’s name. Unbelievably, as time progress, angels and seraphim alike fell for his lies, worshipping him as if he was God. Fundamentally speaking, this power provides the core foundation of his summoning as an Alter Ego class. As the primordial fool, by proclaiming his status as the true God, all other Divine beings become mere aspects of his being. Essentially, he utilizes the power of “lesser” gods as components for his “Saint Graph”, which combines to formulate his existence as the jealous and arrogant faker. By doing so, Alter Ego attains their abilities, adding to his own. He also gains the ability to transform his appearance to look like there’s, just like how he controlled the seraphim to obeying by showing them the ‘face’ they want to see. The potential and possibilities of this skill is unlimited.

    As the saying goes, “an imitation can never surpass the original”. Even when impostering YHWH, the divine the power he controlled was nowhere the level of the Lord. In reality, anyone who knows the true can tell that Alter Ego’s true potential is nowhere near that of the supreme being. To reflect that, despite gaining the targets abilities, parameters, Noble Phantasms etc., they are one rank lower than the original. Once the masses realize the truth, the choice of rejection becomes possible, and all of Alter Ego’s components will rapidly disappear, along with all the falsehoods, leaving only a husk of false glory in its wake.

    Church of the Mad God: (EX)
    A unique skill of one who is worshiped as God despite not actually being one. Working in conjunction with the Omni-Creator skill, all religions and churches of the World become followers of Alter Ego, unbeknownst of the individual. Substituting himself as zealot’s God, by possessing its components. With this, all religious followers are reduced to mindless, obedient subordinates upon confrontation. Contradictory to the Fate System, resistance against this ability is not based upon magic resistance but on one’s lack of faith. Skills such as Soul of a Martyr, Protection of the Faith, and Zealotry will not offer protection, instead it would provide the opposite effect. Possessing these types of skills would nearly, if not outright make it impossible to defend against this effect.

    Regardless of faith, attaining Gnosis would offer complete immunity against this skill. Gnosis, Greek for knowledge, signifies an insight into man’s real nature as Divine, leading to the deliverance of the Divine spark within man from the constraints of earthly existence. In other words, anyone who understands the truth behind the Divine cannot be affected by Alter Ego’s lies.


    Noble Phantasm

    Gnosis
    The Problem of Evil
    Type: Anti-Unit (Self)
    Rank: (E)
    Range: 0
    Maximum Targets: 1

    This Noble Phantasm symbolizes the very existence and manifestation of Alter Ego. Portrayed as the Creator in Gnosticism, he is the embodiment and answer to the problem that challenges the belief in the existence of a perfect God; the “logical problem of evil”.

    The Problem of Evil goes like this:

    If God is omnipotent, he would be able to prevent all of the evil and suffering in the world.

    If God is omniscient, he would know about all of the evil and suffering in the world and would know how to eliminate or prevent it.

    If God is perfectly good, he would want to prevent all of the evil and suffering in the world.

    Yet, Evil exists.

    These statements are logically inconsistent, as not all of them can be true at the same time. The existence of evil and suffering in the World poses a serious threat to the beliefs of various religions throughout. It makes theists’ belief in the existence of a perfect God irrational and inconsistent. However, despite the inconsistency, it does not outright prove the non-existence of God. Rather it offers two main conclusions; either there is no God, or God is not good. Gnosticism serves as a belief to solve the question by claiming the World was created not by a benevolent Being, but by a malevolent God.

    If Angra Mainyu is “All the World’s Evil” than Alter Ego is the Primordial Evil, an existence that existed before the creation of reality, where all evil came from. As such, Alter Ego is absolutely immune to all forms of corruption and impurities, such as All the World’s Evils and the black mud, for nothing is more tainted than he. If anything, a reversal-like phenomenon would occur, where they become even further corrupted by Alter Ego’s taint.

    As a Noble Phantasm, it is ultimately useless. Its prime purpose is that of a symbol and an anchor. A symbol of evil that’s responsible for all the world’s sufferings and an anchor that prevents humanity from reaching the ranks of angels as God intended. Also, it solidifies its existence as a pretender, no matter how hard he tries to steal another god’s identity, no matter how much he insists in being the true God, he will always remain a faker.


    Birth

    Before the beginning, there was an eternal realm filled with light, pure, holy, immaculate. Perfect in incorruptibility, a plane where life sprang eternal, a land of blissful paradise. Within this eternal realm resides Sophia who is Wisdom itself. She conceived a though for herself, she wanted to conceive something just like herself, without consent, without approval, without her partner and without his consideration. Her partner did not give approval. So, without the invisible spirit’s consent (whom Sophia was created from) nor with the knowledge of her partner, she nonetheless gave birth. Because of the invincible power within her, her thought was not an idle thought. Something came out of her that was imperfect and different in appearance from her, for she had produced it without her partner. It did not resemble its mother and was misshapen.

    When Sophia saw what her desire had produced, it changed into the figure of a snake with the face of a lion. Its eyes were like flashing bolts of lightning. She cast it away from her, outside that realm so that none of the immortals would see it. She had produced it ignorantly.

    She surrounded it with a bright cloud and put a throne in the middle of the cloud so that no one would see it except the holy spirit, who is called the mother of the living. She named her offspring Yaldabaoth.


    Backstory

    Yaldabaoth took great power from his power. When he gained consciousness, he was all alone, his mother nowhere in sight. The only thing he had was the invincible power he inherited from her. Yaldabaoth interpreted his loneliness not as a sign of abandonment, but as an idea that he was the first and only being in existence. He began to believe that he was God.

    With his luminous fire, Yaldabaoth organized his own World Order so that he might create everything in an incorruptible form. Not that he had seen incorruptible ones. Rather, the power that is in him, that he had taken from his mother, produced in him the pattern for the World Order.

    A voice called from the exalted heavenly realm. The first ruler, Yaldabaoth, heard the voice and thought it had come from his mother believing that if someone were to exist before him, it would be her. He did not realize its source. In truth, it was Barbelo, the first emanation of YHWH, the mother-father, the holy spirit and the invisible spirit as well as the first human. She presented herself along with her child Geradamas, the self-conceived one who was perfect, to all the heavenly realms. The entire realm of the first ruler shook, and above the material World was lighted by this image that had appeared. The human appears.

    Yaldabaoth said to the authorities with him, “Come, let us create a human being after the image of god and with a likeness to ourselves, so that this human image may give us light”. They created through their respective powers, according to the features that were given to them. Each of the authorities contributed a psychical feature corresponding to the figure of the image they had seen. They created a being like the perfect first human and said, “Let us call it Adam, that its name may give us power of light”.

    In all, the number of angels working together were 365. But for a long time, their creation did not stir or move at all. When the mother wanted to take back the power she had relinquished to the first ruler, she prayed to the most merciful mother-father of all. With a sacred command, the mother-father sent five luminaries down to the place of the angels of the first ruler. They advised him so that they might recover the mother’s power.

    They said to Yaldabaoth, “Breathe some of your spirit into the face of Adam, and then the body will arise”. He breathed his spirit into Adam. The spirit is the power of his mother, but he did not realize this, because he lives in ignorance. The mother’s power went out of Yaldabaoth and into the psychical body that had been made to be like the one who is from the beginning.

    At once the rest of the powers became jealous. Although Adam had come into being through all of them, and they had given their power to this human, Adam was more intelligent than the creators and the first ruler. When they realized that Adam was enlightened, and could think more clearly than they, and was stripped of evil, they took and threw Adam into the lowest part of the whole material realm.

    The blessed, benevolent, merciful mother-father had compassion for the mother’s power that had been removed from the first ruler. The rulers might be able to overpower the psychical, perceptible body once again. So, with its benevolent spirit and great mercy the mother-father sent a helper to Adam, an enlightened afterthought who is from the mother-father and who was called life. She helped the whole human, laboring with it, restoring it to its fullness, teaching it about the descent of the seed, teaching it about the way of ascent, which is the way of descent. Enlightened afterthought was hidden within Adam so that the rulers might not recognize her, but that afterthought might be able to restore what the mother lacked.

    Enlightened afterthought hid herself within Adam. The first ruler wanted to take her from Adam’s side, but enlightened afterthought cannot be apprehended. While darkness pursued her, it did not apprehend her. The first ruler removed part of Adam’s power and created another figure in the form of a female, like the image of afterthought that had appeared to him. He put the part he had taken from the power of the human being into the female creature.

    Adam saw the woman beside him. At once enlightened afterthought appeared and removed the veil that covered his mind. He recognized his counterpart and said, “This is now bone from my bones and flesh from my flesh. For this reason, a man will leave his father and his mother and will join himself to his wife, and the two of them will become one flesh. For his partner will be sent to him, and he will leave his father and his mother. Our sister Sophia is the one who descended in an innocent manner to restore what she lacked. For this reason, she was called life, that is, the mother of the living, by the forethought of the sovereignty of heaven and by the afterthought that appeared to Adam. Through her have the living tasted perfect knowledge. As for me, I appeared in the form of an eagle on the tree of knowledge, which is the afterthought of the pure enlightened forethought, that I might teach the human beings and awaken them from the depth of sleep. For the two of them were fallen and realized that they were naked. Afterthought appeared to them as light and awakened their minds”.

    When Yaldabaoth realized that the humans had withdrawn from him, he cursed his earth. He found the woman as she was preparing herself for her husband. He was master over her. And he did not know the mystery that had come into being through the sacred plan. The two of them were afraid to denounce Yaldabaoth. He displayed to his angels the ignorance within him. He threw the humans out of paradise and cloaked them in thick darkness.

    The first ruler saw the young woman standing next to Adam and noticed that the enlightened afterthought of life had appeared in her. Yet Yaldabaoth was full of ignorance. So, when the forethought of all realized this, she dispatched emissaries, and they stole life out of Eve. The first ruler defiled Eve and produced in her two sons, a first and a second: Elohim and Yahweh.

    One is just, the other is unjust. He placed Yahweh over fire and wind, he placed Elohim over water and earth. He called them by the names Cain and Abel, with a view to deceive.

    When Adam came to know the counterpart of his own foreknowledge, he produced a son like the human child. He called him Seth, after the manner of the heavenly race in the eternal realms. Similarly, the mother sent down her spirit, which is like her and is a copy of what is in the realm of fullness, for she was going to prepare a dwelling place for the eternal realms that would come down. The human beings were made to drink water of forgetfulness by the first ruler, so that they might not know where they had come from. For a time, the seed remained and helped so that when the spirit descends from the holy realms, it may raise up the seed and heal what it lacks, that the entire realm of fullness may be holy and lack nothing.
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    Well, that Jesus Lily was freaking incredible. I'd been putting off writing one up for ages, but I might as well throw that idea in the dustbin since you've already done infinitely more justice to it then I ever could've. Sunny already summed up most of what I'd say here; so I'll just mention I'm a little sad to see there's no mention of his miracles from the Infancy Gospel. Shaping water into perfect spheres and molding live doves from clay is some pretty cool stuff that could've made for at least a Personal Skill, though I understand he's stuffed to the gills with such already. Maybe nix Charisma and give him the Miracle Skill instead? I dunno'. I'm just throwing stuff out here...

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    Has Astolfo got other NPs? I knew he could be invoked as Saber, but I did not find the reason for it.
    I wanted to make a record of this version of him.

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    Argh, I was planning on posting an Alter Ego sheet first, now someone beat me to it.

    For Astolfo, he could probably be a good swordsman, but there are other heroic spirits that surpass him in that aspect, like at a Bedivere or Nero level? So while he can be summoned as a Saber, he has more compatibility as a Rider. (I suck at explaining things)

    Edit: Might have missed something, but was there an explanation for why Yaldabaoth is an Alter Ego?
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    Quote Originally Posted by chem24 View Post
    Edit: Might have missed something, but was there an explanation for why Yaldabaoth is an Alter Ego?
    Presumably because he's an offshoot of Sophia.

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    Yaldabaoth: Since no one replied, I just wanted to say this is a very cool sheet, and the concept of "False God" is created perfectly in both the Skills' descriptions and Noble Phantasm. Speaking of the Noble Phantasm, Gnosis deserves a special mention since the idea that the NP is simply Yaldabaoth's Proof of Existance is clever and a refreshing break from special techniques.

    However, I think the Summon Skill is a tad too much even by EX standards. Maybe just limit it to just the 7 Rulers of Heaven and it would be fine. Because if Yaldobaoth wanted to act like a Divine being, I doubt "he" would want to summon something that would ruin the image.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ordep View Post
    Has Astolfo got other NPs? I knew he could be invoked as Saber, but I did not find the reason for it.
    I wanted to make a record of this version of him.
    I think Astolfo cut off the immortal/regenerating bandit Orillo's hair, which was what gave him those powers, with a sword. This allowed Orillo to then be killed.

    I don't know if it was as special sword or something in legend but Astolfo hobnobbed a lot with the supernatural and with his luck I don't doubt some witch or Fairy could have gifted him with a magic sword. At the very least you could say this is what happened and it would be in line with the rest of his legend.

    It probably isn't a very strong weapon though since Astolfo is more about Luck and lots of small but useful tricks rather than OVERWHELMING POWAH!!!
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    The reason why Yaldabaoth is an Alter Ego is explained in his Omni Creator skill. Alter ego fundamentally comprised of serveral components. Passionlip for example is made from Parvati, Durga and Brynhild. And tamamo cat is presumably a combination of the tamamo nine as an alter ego. Yaldabaoth has the ability to basically choose his component by making everyone believe he is the "real version". Effectively impostering as them.

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    Servant Saber:

    Appearance:

    Source is here

    True Name: Sir Marrok "The Wolf-Knight"

    Alignment: Neutral Good

    Strength- C
    Agility- C+
    Endurance- C
    Mana- D
    Luck- B-
    NP- B

    Personality
    Stoical and aloof. His experiences with betrayal have left Saber naturally distrustful of others, leading him to hesitate to truly open his heart up to anyone. He follows a rather merciless code of justice, believing in paying good unto good and evil unto evil. Those who betray their comrades are even lower then beasts in Saber's eyes, and if someone breaks his trust then he won't hesitate to cut them down on the spot. His seven years as a wolf have taught Saber compassion for the plight of animals, abhorring anyone who'd treat them cruelly or exploit them for human benefit.

    He also shows some beastly characteristics himself. He purrs when happy, lets out a low growl when angered, sometimes howls at the moon and is far more comfortable sleeping outdoors under the starry sky then in a bed. Though Saber has long since outgrown his past as a beast, it seems that some old habits are hard to break. Saber is ashamed of his animal vestiges, seeing them as a painful reminder of the indignity he endured, and will become greatly flustered if they are ever pointed out.

    That said, towards a Master who has earned his trust Saber may begin to show his animal traits more openly, perhaps even letting them pat his head at higher levels of affection. Like any puppy dog, he is hostile to strangers but those who have earned his trust could not possibly ask for a more loyal or affectionate companion.

    Likes: faithfulness, dogs, head pats (won't admit it)
    Dislikes: betrayal, animal cruelty
    Talent: lycanthropy
    Natural Enemy: his wife


    Class Skills:

    Magic Resistance- C
    A power to neutralize the effects of Magecraft used against oneself. At this rank, spells with a chant below two verse are cancelled, proving difficult to cope with the likes of High Thaumaturgy or Greater Rituals. Showing no particular resistance to sorcery in his legend, and possibly having fallen victim to a curse by his treacherous wife, Saber sports only a moderate rank in this Skill unbecoming of his Class.

    Riding- C (N/A)
    Ability to ride animals. At this rank, most mundane mounts can be utilized at an average level of skill, but not Phantasmal or Divine Beasts. A suitable level of competency for an experienced knight such as Saber, he possesses Riding at this rank despite lacking any anecdotes of handling mounts in his legend.

    Since a wolf has no business riding anything, this Skill is sealed after the invocation of his second Noble Phantasm.


    Personal Skills:

    Animal Dialogue- B+
    The ability to communicate with animals that do not share a "language of words". His lycanthropy as well as having spent seven years in the wild has given Saber a natural kinship with animals, allowing him to exchange even complex ideas with ease. Especially effective regarding canines.

    Monstrous Strength- C
    An inherent ability of monsters and beasts; denoting the power to raise one's Strength for a given duration. At this rank, Saber can grant himself a rank-up in Strength lasting for roughly a quarter of battle. When his second Noble Phantasm is deployed, the effective rank of this Skill rises to A, granting a rank-up to Strength that persists for the entirety of combat.

    Instinct- B
    A form of sixth sense that allows one to identify the best possible course of action during battle. Because this Skill allows for the prediction of trajectory, it is possible to avoid attacks from firearms. At a B-rank, Saber's honed sixth sense nearly reaches the level of predicting the future, halving all penalties caused by visual interference. Saber's lupine instincts, supplemented with his combat experience as a knight, have garnered him a high rank in this Skill.

    Information Erasure- D-
    A Skill that erases records of a Servant's existence and actions following the conclusion of an engagement. Almost nothing is recorded of Saber other then his very existence as a "Werewolf-Knight". It is unknown whether his lycanthropy was originally a blessing, a curse or some other factor altogether.

    At only a low rank, this Skill merely somewhat muddles Saber's image in the minds of those who observed him, leading them to forget all details of him other those of a "knight" and "werewolf". Paradoxically, because his hidden lycanthropy is the only trait for which Saber was remembered, those recalling Saber will be left with the vague impression of him as a werewolf even if they never actually witnessed him transform. Since the number of Arthurian knights who were werewolves could easily be counted on one hand, this Skill is actually a hindrance to concealing his true identity.


    Noble Phantasms
    Bisclavret
    Sword Of The Wolf-Knight


    Rank: D+

    Type: Anti-Unit~Team

    The sword of Sir Marrok. As its true name has been lost to history, Saber invokes it by a Breton word for "Werewolf", which is also the name of the most famous telling of his legend. Like many holy and cursed swords, Bisclavret has the power to amplify its wielder's Mana and release it as a blast of destructive power. Alluding to Saber's nature and title as the "Wolf-Knight", magical energy discharged through this blade will take on the semblance of monstrous wolves.

    Being essentially constructs of Saber's Mana these wolves have a limited degree of autonomy equal to low-grade familiars, capable of hunting Saber's foes over a short distance. Upon colliding with any solid surface the "wolf" will detonate in a spherical burst of magical fire. This Noble Phantasm is extraordinary Mana-efficient and Saber is easily able to create a "pack" of up to several dozen wolves at once, having them converge on his opponent for an explosion tantamount to an A-rank physical attack.


    Seven Years A Werewolf
    Heartbroken Knight's Curse


    Rank: B

    Type: Anti-Unit (Self)

    A transformation-type Noble Phantasm that is only usable when Saber is at night, under the light of the moon and discards any clothing he possesses. Once these conditions are fulfilled Saber can invoke this ability to assume the form of a Werewolf- a powerful Phantasmal Beast with silvery fur and gleaming amber eyes.

    While in wolf form all of Saber's parameters other then Luck and Mana are ranked up by two and his Monstrous Strength is made permanently active. He can also emit a sonic barking attack able to shatter glass and instill fear in lesser beasts. Because Saber in this form is unrecognizable as his human self, the activation of this Noble Phantasm also serves to obscure all details of Saber's stat sheet. To observers, he appears to be nothing more then an exceptionally powerful and dangerous wolf.

    Saber's human reason and personality persist in his lupine state, but he will have difficulty expressing them without the ability to speak or write. He can only return to human form while in proximity of the clothes he wore before transforming, so if they are stolen or destroyed he could potentially end up trapped as a wolf forever. Due to misgivings from his past life Saber will refuse to utilize this Noble Phantasm unless he trusts his Master, and can be sure his clothing is secured for him to revert back.

    This goes without saying but, as he is unable to wield a sword while in wolf form, Saber's Bisclavret Noble Phantasm is sealed while this one is active.

    It is unknown what the reason is behind Saber's lycanthropy, for no origin or explanation was outlined in his legend. It could be a blessing from the gods, a curse from his unfaithful wife who dabbled in sorcery or simply an inherent trait of Saber's bloodline tracing back to ancient monsters or divinities...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aridwolverine View Post
    Alter ego fundamentally comprised of serveral components. Passionlip for example is made from Parvati, Durga and Brynhild.
    That's a High Servant, which Melt and Lip are. FGO made it a Skill. Don't confuse High Servant with Alter Ego.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daneel Rush View Post
    That's a High Servant, which Melt and Lip are. FGO made it a Skill. Don't confuse High Servant with Alter Ego.
    Then what is Alter-Ego exactly? It's not Moon Cell exclusive because the Tamamo Nine qualify, so presumably it's something to do with being the offshoot of a deity?

    Also I figured "Top Servant" was just referring to tier-levels rather then anything more specific. Wasn't Karna called one as well?

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    Alter Ego is just like

    an alternate personality that's become a separate entity

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    Alter Egos are just fragments of a greater whole: the Sakura Five were born of BB, Kiara from Beast III/R. The Tamamo Nine need no explanation.

    And yes, Karna, Artoria, Altera and Iskander have all been called top Servants. I don't see what that's got to do with anything.

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    Also High Servant and Top Servant are different things

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daneel Rush View Post
    Alter Egos are just fragments of a greater whole: the Sakura Five were born of BB, Kiara from Beast III/R. The Tamamo Nine need no explanation.

    And yes, Karna, Artoria, Altera and Iskander have all been called top Servants. I don't see what that's got to do with anything.
    So by that logic Yaldaboath would definitely qualify, seeing as he's a fragment of the wisdom goddess Sophia. Weirdly though, from the way you've described it, it almost sounds like any Servant could fit that definition, due to being by definition incomplete fragments of a greater Heroic Spirit.

    And regarding "top" versus "high" Servants; wasn't there some confusion at one point where one of those terms was translated as the other?

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    Alter Ego is just like

    an alternate personality that's become a separate entity
    It's occurred to me that a great analogy for this would be Altair from Re:Creators.

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    Sir Marrok: Looking at the way you've structured him Royd, he doesn't feel overly inclined to be a Saber (indeed the Bisclavret NP seems to be the reason behind that in the first place) and in my opinion could be easily fitted to be a Berserker with more focus on the lycanthorpy. It may be a bit presumptuous to ask but was it QoF that inspired the sheet by chance?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bird of Hermes View Post
    Sir Marrok: Looking at the way you've structured him Royd, he doesn't feel overly inclined to be a Saber (indeed the Bisclavret NP seems to be the reason behind that in the first place) and in my opinion could be easily fitted to be a Berserker with more focus on the lycanthorpy. It may be a bit presumptuous to ask but was it QoF that inspired the sheet by chance?
    I thought of making him a Berserker but it wouldn't really fit since he never lost his reason even in beast form. He's Saber because he's a knight and had no anecdotes to justify slotting him into any other Class.

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    So I stumbled across an old sheet for Edmond Dantès that I gave up halfway when Avenger Dantes came out.

    But upon looking at it, it made me think how cool it would be to see a Dantès-Lily from before his escape from Château d'If...somehow, because I've no idea how that would even work as a sheet. Perhaps that could be a challenge for the future, since I've already got about six other sheets that need finishing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skull View Post
    So I stumbled across an old sheet for Edmond Dantès that I gave up halfway when Avenger Dantes came out.

    But upon looking at it, it made me think how cool it would be to see a Dantès-Lily from before his escape from Château d'If...somehow, because I've no idea how that would even work as a sheet. Perhaps that could be a challenge for the future, since I've already got about six other sheets that need finishing.
    Hey, I did a Cain Lily based entirely on his life as a farmer before becoming the First Murderer. Next to that, I'm sure someone could find (read; make up) enough material for a Dantes Lily Servant. Also, before he was caught or before he escaped? Because if the latter, I can't see "trapped in a hellish prison on false charges after getting the love of your life torn away from you" as the kind of happy and fluffy material Lily Servants are made of...

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    Class : Caster
    Identity : Timun Mas
    Origin : Indonesian Folktales
    Alignment : Neutral Good


    Legend of Timun Mas
    Once upon a time in Java, there was a poor widow named Mbok Srini that lived alone in her humble house on the edge of the jungle. She felt so lonely and prayed to the gods to bless her with a child. One night in her dream, she envisioned something wrapped under a tree of the jungle. She took this dream as an omen, an answer for her prayer. She later went to the jungle to search for something wrapped inside a cloth under a tree, she expected to find a baby to take care. Finally she discovered the object wrapped inside a cloth under the tree exactly as her vision in her dream. When she unwrapped it, there was no baby inside the wrapped cloth but only a seed of cucumber. Suddenly she heard a monstrous laughter; a green-skinned giant named Butho Ijo (Javanese: "Green Giant") appeared behind her. The green giant told her to plant the cucumber seed and she will have a child. She must nurture the child, however when the child had grown up, Mbok Srini must give the child back to Butho Ijo. The giant wished to eat the child. Eager to have a child, Mbok Srini agreed with Butho Ijo's deal.


    Mbok Srini returned to her home and planted the cucumber seed in an orchard behind her house. Later, a magical golden cucumber grew from its seed, and when Mbok Srini took the cucumber and opened it, a beautiful baby girl appeared inside it. Thus, she named the baby girl Timun Mas which means "golden cucumber". Year after year, Timun Mas grew to become a beautiful girl. She is a loving, kind and diligent child always willing to help and take care of an aging Mbok Srini. Just a week before Timun Mas' 17th birthday, Butho Ijo appeared in front of Mbok Srini's house and reminded her about her promise, and announce that within one week he will return to collect Timun Mas. Mbok Srini is so sad and fearful of the horrible fate that awaits her beloved child. Mbok Srini heard that there is a powerful rishi that resides in a mountain nearby. She hastily went to the mountain to seek help from a wise old hermit residing on said mountain. After hearing her story, the old hermit gave her four small bags of cloth with something inside it. The four objects inside the bags are cucumber seeds, needles, salts, and terasi (shrimp paste). The hermit told Mbok Srini to give these objects to Timun Mas and tell her to throw them when she is being chased by the giant. Mbok Srini returned home and told Timun Mas what to do if the green giant chased her.


    Finally on Timun Mas' 17th birthday, Butho Ijo appeared at Mbok Srini's house to take Timun Mas as promised: he will eat the girl. Mbok Srini ordered Timun Mas to run for her life. Timun Mas was really scared and terrified and ran as fast as she can to try to escape the giant. The giant was furious and destroyed Mbok Srini's house while chasing Timun Mas. Finally, Butho Ijo caught up to the fleeing Timun Mas. In distress, Timun Mas opened one of her four cloth bags spreading cucumber seeds behind her. Suddenly a large cucumber vine appeared and strangled the giant's body, trapping him so that he can’t move. This gave Timun Mas time to escape further. However the powerful giant finally managed to break free and continued his chase. Timun Mas opened her second bag and spread needles behind her. Suddenly the needles transformed into a bamboo forest with sharp tips that wounded the giant badly. The giant was badly wounded stuck with sharp bamboos, however he managed to get through the sharp bamboo forest and caught up to the running Timun Mas again. She opened her third bag and spread salts behind her back. Suddenly a sea appeared behind her drowning the evil giant. However the giant managed to swim through the sea and continued to chase her. Timun Mas, once again, almost got caught and opened her last bag. She threw the terasi behind her and continued to run desperately. Suddenly the terasi shrimp paste transformed into sea of boiling volcanic mud. Butho Ijo was stuck inside the boiling hot mud, drowned and died. Timun Mas finally survived and return to her mother Mbok Srini, and they lived happily ever after.



    Personality
    Caster is a kind, confident and somewhat tomboy girl, she is the kind of girl that anyone would love to accompany and she herself enjoys the company of others. This is partly because in her life she never got many friends because she lived on the edge of a jungle to accompany her aging mother. She also is really loyal and faithful towards her Master and likes to do chores for them even when she’s not asked to, considering herself to be a literal servant or maid for them, though, in reality, this is only because she wished to win the grail in order to fulfill her own wish to live a normal life, not bound by anyone's desire or a fixed purpose.


    Likes : Cucumber, doing chores, sewing.
    Dislikes : Giants, dangerous situation.
    Talents : Being a maid, cooking, gardening.
    Natural Enemy : Butho Ijo.
    Summoning Catalyst : Fossilized golden cucumber fruit.



    PARAMETERS
    STR : E
    END : E
    AGI : E+
    MGI : B
    LCK : A
    NP : B+


    CLASS SKILLS
    Territory Creation : C
    A Caster-class Skill. It is the Skill to build a special terrain that is advantageous to oneself as a magus, such as for the purpose of collecting mana. Caster does not have the knowledge to build a “Workshop”, but she can create something close to it as a result of the usage of her Noble Phantasm.


    Item Creation : C-
    A Caster-class Skill. It is the Skill to manufacture magical items, from implements of war to items for mundane use. Also, this Skill requires time to gather components and manufacture items. Though being potentially able to, Caster does not have the knowledge to manufacture an item by magical means. She can, however, produce various items by putting her Noble Phantasm into practical use, like producing magical cucumbers with healing properties. Aside from that, she also can create various items for daily uses.


    PERSONAL SKILLS
    Ephemeral Dream : A+
    A Skill that represents one's life born from illusions/from a person's desire. Caster was an existence born from a wish of a certain lonely widow and a certain deal she bargained with a demon called Butho Ijo. This means that Caster is the result of 2 different desires: the widow, who only wished a child to accompany her lonely life, and the demon, who desired her for... something else. She had killed the demon Butho Ijo who wished to consume her, and when the old widow whom she considered as her mother died, her purpose and reason to exist also ended. She is able to answer the summoning of the grail because she had an unfulfilled wish, that is, to live and see the world as a normal person, not bound by anyone's desire or a fixed purpose.


    Protection of the Rishi : A
    A skill denoting the protection and blessings given by a Rishi, Seer of Vedas. For Caster, this skill makes it possible to use her Bags of Miracles Noble Phantasm, also provides rank up to Agility in a situation where Caster is escaping or running away from danger, this bonus may increase depending on the level of danger that threatens her.


    NOBLE PHANTASM
    Empat Kantung Ajaib
    Four Bags of Miracles
    Rank : B+
    Type : Anti-Unit, Anti-Army
    The four cloth bags that Caster received from a Rishi of Mount Gundul, each of them contains cucumber seeds, needles, salt and shrimp pastes (terasi). While each of the bag is enough to be qualified as a single Noble Phantasm, when combined in a single attack, its powers are equal to A ranked Noble Phantasm. The usage of each attacks are also similar, that is, simply by trowing the content of the bags into a certain area. Caster can resupply the contents of each bags simply by putting in the same item into the bag, but each use of the contents requires a rather large amounts of magical energy.


    Biji Timun
    Cucumber Vines - Snare
    Type : Anti-Unit
    The bag that that contains the cucumber seeds. When the seeds are thrown into the ground, the seeds will instantly grows into a large cucumber field, each cucumber plants in the field have large and thick vines that Caster can control to ensnare or bind targets with the sheer number of the vines. However, enemies with sufficient strength or can easily break free from these vines, and these plants are vulnerable to fire attacks and can also be easily cut by most weapons. These cucumber plants also can produce large amounts of sweet and delicious cucumbers that have low healing properties. At best, these vines can be used to temporarily slow down enemies, and at worst, the enemy can even heal themselves by eating the cucumber fruits.


    Jarum
    Bamboo Needles - Skewer
    Type : Anti-Unit
    The bag that contains the needles, which Caster has arranged carefully to avoid piercing herself when attempting to grab them from the bag. When the needles are thrown into the ground, they would be transformed into dozens of sharp and thorny bamboo trees which will impale or at least, pierce the enemy with dozens of bamboo spears. Similar to the cucumber vines, this attack heavily relies on the element of surprise. Caster can also build a makeshift house using these bamboos.


    Garam
    Sea Waters – Soak
    Type : Anti-Army
    The bag that contains huge amounts of... salts. The salts are sprinkled into the ground, and after 4 minutes, the ground that the salt touched will be transformed into deep sea waters that negate any magical abilities of anyone that touches the water and also has a low chance to inflict paralysis. The enemies that are trapped in the ‘sea’ can escape the waters simply by swimming to the edge of the water, but Caster can expand the size of the ‘sea’ by simply sprinkling more salts into the waters. With the help of the blessings she received from a certain Rishi, Caster can avoid being soaked by her own waters and is immune to its effects. The sea will vanish after several hours and the ground will return to normal as if it was just an illusion. This power can also be used to make a makeshift pool of some sort.


    Terasi
    Volcanic Mud - Sink
    Type : Anti-Army
    A bag that contains fermented shrimp pastes, also known as terasi. Unlike the others, this power can only be activated after activating the previous, Sea Water power. When the terasi is thrown into the sea water, the water will instantly be changed into a large swamp of boiling mud. These mud are highly adhesive and will suck in anything that touched it. It also disables the magical circuit of whoever that directly touches it, and has moderate chances to cause paralysis. Just like the sea, these mud will also vanish after several hours.


    Timun Mas
    Beautiful Golden Cucumber
    Rank : D
    Type : Anti-Unit (Self)
    A Noble Phantasm in the form of a golden cucumber seed. It is the seed that Caster’s adoptive mother, Mbok Srini received from Butho Ijo, and after a certain bargain made between her and Butho Ijo, Mbok Srini agreed to plant the seed behind her house. After some days, the seed quickly grows into a cucumber plant which bore fruit a giant golden cucumber, and from inside the cucumber, Mbok Srini discovered a beautiful baby girl, thus she named the baby, “Timun Mas” which means Golden Cucumber. In other words, this Noble Phantasm is Caster’s body itself, that was born from the golden cucumber seed.


    Upon activation, Caster’s human body will undergo a transformation into a body composed of plant cells and organs, specifically the golden cucumber plant. This body works similarly to a human body, but it has several differences and special abilities. Her skin is composed of the cells and organs similar to the organ that composed the leaves of a plant, which enables her to generate energy, both magical or physical, via photosynthesis. This form allows Caster to transform her limbs into vines that can lengthen to a limited extend. Caster also can produce cucumber fruits that can grow from her palm.

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    I really need to update the index...
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