Always nice to see some Ainu representation. <3
Always nice to see some Ainu representation. <3
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I know it's very petty of me to ask this, and I apologize if it come off as annoying, but I'll just ask this one last time.
Does anyone has any criticism/feedback/review or whatever for my Queen Shima sheet, please?
I was holding back on it due to feeling bad about saying your(?) sheet on Gajah Mada did not deal with a significant historical figure (turns out I was wrong about that). But since you're asking...
I don't think a local variation of a legend (referring to the Shima = aspect of Shiva based on an Indonesian belief) would afford enough power to give her Divinity A (or the other stuff stemming from that), though there's the rest of the justification to go with that. Having a full-on divinity lounging around during the 7th century just feels a bit weird to me, worship or not. I also feel that God's Resolution refers to the Christian God, so connection to Shiva wouldn't really heighten one's rank there.
The sheet doesn't really seem to hold much in the way of substance besides the Shiva bits, so I'm kinda left wondering where the actual Shima enters into the picture.
I don't really know the person since I mostly comment on figures that I know. But I'll try.
That's a lot of A Rank for figure that probably not very well known and unimpactful (I assume), especially compared to Wu which is very impactful to China as far as I know of.
Nowadays, I only care about how someone converts a legend into an NP more than the actual effects are, they are pretty okay in my book considering the Ruler class is pretty bonker.
Well, the thing is, it's almost impossible to determine how impactful Indonesian kings or figures really were more than a few centuries ago because the lack of historical sources considering the region's environment that is prone to history-erasing catastrophe such as earthquake or tsunami and volcanoes and *cought*Islam*cough*. Much of the concrete evidence comes from a handful stone inscription and the temples they built that were lucky enough to survive these and be unearthed, and some wacky Chinese/Indian/Arabic records. That much I think, should tell how much of a Mystery that can be exploited there to explain stuff.
Regarding if Queen Shima was impactful or not, well, considering that stories such as one in my sheet is still being told of her, I think she was pretty impactful. Not to mention that she was actually the mother of two great dynasties of Java and Sumatra, and was probably an important figure in spreading the (now-long-gone) Shaivite religion in Java and Sumatra.
Huh, don't worry about that, Indonesian myth and legends are not as well known to anyone but Indonesian themselves (not that the current Muslim population of Indonesia appreciates their culture anymore), really. Part of the reason why I decided to make these sheets.
I think you have a point about divinity in 7th century, but Batara Guru (if that's what you're referring) is not so much of a "local variation of a legend" than a "concept of a supreme god shared between various cultures in the archipelago".
Regarding God's Resolution there's nothing indicating that, and it's not because a connection to Shiva she got EX-rank, it's because of her Noble Phantasm.
Really? Besides, perhaps Divinity and a few bits in her first Noble Phantasm, there's not much of Shiva in the sheet. Durga perhaps, but what really ties with Shiva is the fact that she was a hardcore Shaivite and that her husband was deified as Shiva.
But anyway, thank you
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Already did, I think.
Shima was the daughter of Hyang Syailendra (Divine King of the Mountain), and the great-grandmother of King Sanjaya. The Syailendras (literally means King of the Mountains) was originally Shaivite, but at some point they "adopted" Mahayana Buddhism and has since been referred as the Syailendra dynasty, known for the construction of the Borobudur temple and became the ruler of the Buddhist Srivijaya Empire based on Sumatra. However, those who still embraced Shaivite religion became known as the Sanjaya dynasty and ruled Java and made the Dieng (Di Hyang, Shima's NP in the sheet) a sacred place. Technically both are still the descendant of Syailendra though, only different religion.
Sorry everyone i make a indianic servant for the contest does someone know a direct translator or a quite complete Dictionary of the North american indigenic languages if possible Cherokee or Navajo ?
i have searched but atleast for now i have not found a working one .
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Alternate Classes: Caster
True Name: Fenja & Menja
Alignment: True Neutral
Origin: Norse Mythology
Armament: Grindstone
Parameters:
STR: A+
END: A
AGI: D
MANA: B
LUCK: D
NP: C
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Hm interesting i have during my research for Loki not seen them somewhere .
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Please correct me : Their Noblephantasm works after summoning upon they are beginning to move the grindstone are appearing chains who bind both,then are they able to create either materials ,perform teleportation or conduct Magecraft ,right?
Would they are also be able to summon and then dispell the stone as shield? And if destroyed is the stone lost or can he be resummoned after a time period ?
Two question in which appearance /height are they summoned as Servants and have you get a litle derivation of their jotun kind skill from my child of giant skillof Loki ?And about(my) Loki what would be their reaction if they meet him as other servant ?
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Once they start grinding, they're bound to the millstone and can start producing whatever they like, yes.
They can summon Grótti as a shield. If it's broken, it stays broken.
In terms of height, they'd be among the taller Servants, so >260 cm tall.
And no, Jötunn-kind isn't derived from the Skill that I criticized on your sheet (due to its godawful name). It's the exact same Skill as on my Utgard-Loki from June. And as for their reaction to Loki... I don't know why they'd care, honestly. The man was never particularly well-liked in any of the company he kept, and two random part-giantesses have probably never heard of Loki (other than the name, I guess).
A little question to throw out there:
When Servant-crafting, is there a specific country/region's history/mythos you always liked?
For me, to start, it would definitely be Chinese history.
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Obviously creator's provincialism plays a part in why I like to write about British heroes and villains.
China's also an old favourite since I grew up on and till this day still love martial arts movies.
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For me, it'd be Japanese cuture. That said, I'd want to see some more Spanish Servants too.
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Norse mythology is a classic as far as I'm concerned, but I do have a not-insignificant number of British sheets. I try to avoid consciously focusing on any single region, though.
just a spontan idea for some fun: weapon swapped Servants if anyone might give it a try ?
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Egypt because i liked it since my Childhood ,through my researches for my servants have i though found a liking in the Indian and norse mythology,also would i like to make some cryptid based servants but there to find the Right candidates is a heavy Task.
one Question at al here has somebody made beside padoruous Fakers some aberative Servants like the Canon Caster Gilles or a totall Distortion like strange fakes Pale Rider ?
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