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    Quote Originally Posted by GundamFSN View Post
    mouthful true name.
    More like utterly indecipherable

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    If true name is no good then should we use right name or correct name
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoydGolden View Post
    That honestly makes me curious where the shonen attack calling trope originated. Part of it is obviously the martial arts Kiai, but I wouldn't be surprised if the mythological concept of true names also played a role...
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoydGolden View Post
    That honestly makes me curious where the shonen attack calling trope originated. Part of it is obviously the martial arts Kiai, but I wouldn't be surprised if the mythological concept of true names also played a role...
    The true name concept only plays a role similar to the servant's true name. It reveals the servant's history and abilities to the enemies in a HGW which is quite damaging to the chance of them winning normally. The rest of the concept in Fate is very shounen. For example in Bleach the true name of Ichigo's weapon is Zangetsu, but when he unleases the most powerful attack with it - Getsuga Tenshou - he shouts out that name, not the name of the sword. Similarly, Gilgamesh's sword of rupture is called Ea (and he just calls it that for convenience, he doesn't even know its true name) but the attack where he unleashes the most power of it is Enuma Elish, so he shouts that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by castor212 View Post
    More like utterly indecipherable

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    If true name is no good then should we use right name or correct name
    That also won't work well because JP name and furigana name. Which of the 2 is shin shinmei?

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    but right is not correct

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    So Shinshin-san is Yan Qing's true, legitimate name, got it.

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    oh hey lets call it legitimate legally acknowledged by the force of mystery name
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    no "kore ga sparta" line
    dang it


    Leonidas I CMT BMCMIIW

    Class: Lancer
    True Name: Leonidas I
    Gender: Male
    Source: Historical fact (Battle of Thermopylae)
    Region: Sparta
    Alignment: Lawful Neutral
    Height: 188 cm
    Weight: 110 kg

    STR: B
    CON: A
    AGI: D
    MGI: C
    LCK: C
    NP: B

    Setting creation: Higashide Yuuichirou
    Character design: Shimaudon
    CV: Miki Shinichirou

    Main works appearance: Fate/Grand Order
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    Class Skills
    Magic Resistance: C
    Invalidate magic with chant 2 verses or less.
    Unable to defend against large scale magic such as high thaumaturgy or ritual spells.
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    Personal Skill
    Battle Continuation: A
    He doesn't know when to give up.
    It's possible for him to fight even on the verge of death, surviving as long as his injury is not decisively lethal.

    Pride of the Rearguard: A
    Demonstrate useful effects during defensive battle or withdrawal battle.
    Combined with his own Noble Phantasm, he can even defend against anti-army Noble Phantasm.
    (From ingame profile: The power displayed during the Battle of Thermopylae turned into a technical Skill. A unique Skill that demonstrates its power in proportion tof how much disadvantageous one's condition is (such as during defensive battle or withdrawal battle).)

    Warrior's Warcry: B
    A Skill for raising morale. It is a breath similar to breath technique utilized in karate. By means of the warcry, he carries out a mental coordination.
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    Thermopylae Enomotia
    Guardian of the Hot Gates

    Rank: B
    Type: Anti-Army Noble Phantasm
    Range: 1~5
    Maximum target: unknown

    Thermopylae Enomotia.
    The summoning of the army Sparta, 300 man strong, who had fought together in the Battle of Thermopylae.
    It demonstrates fierce power in defense rather than offense.
    It is a instantenous reproduction of a historical deed. Due to that, it can be invoked even after the enemy has performed their attack.
    It protects not only Leonidas, but the master as well.
    Normally it is a counterattack Noble Phantasm, with each of the 300 possessing C~E rank status in END. The more Spartans manages to endure enemy attacks, the higher the increase of the counter attack's damage next turn.

    (*Thermopylae Enomotia apparently means literally Squad of Thermopylae)
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    Personage
    First pronoun: watashi
    Second pronoun: anata/kisama
    Third pronoun: kare/kanojo

    - Character
    The leader of Spartan army of hot-blooded idiots. An intellectual macho.
    He laments the fact that "frankly speaking, there's no one else but me who could think of battle tactics."
    It is similar to when a smart type joined a sports-minded company; he lives everyday full of concern and worry.
    That being said, due to him being born and bred in Sparta himself, he cannot deny that he himself is also a hot-blooded idiot-----fond of effort, guts, and barbarous battle.
    He believes that effort, diligence, and training is the shortest way to victory, that they are connected to having a proper life as a human. Train
    yourself
    your body
    , and you will be rewarded. But ghosts have no muscle so it's useleeeeess!

    - Motives and attitude towards Master
    While a king, he properly understands the current situation, with his attitude bordering on courtesy. He would attend the Master as a devoted Servant, as long as the Master does not take a greatly impolite approach in attitude.
    Although he is proactive in his suggestion, his are dicey, hotblooded tactics. However, speaking ill of Sparta would make him furiously angry.

    - Speech example
    "Servant, Lancer. True name, Leonidas I. I shall serve you hereafter on."
    "A countermeasure against Casters? Hmm, how about we break them?"
    "It would be quite a joy, to simply continuing on fighting without the need to think of anything."
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    Historical depiction
    Leonidas I was the younger brother of Cleomenes I, the king of Sparta. But Cleomenes' children, who originally should've been the ones in the line of the throne succession, all passed away; thus Leonidas sat on the thrones as the new king.

    However, already had disturbing atmosphere drifted to the surroundings of the city-state of Sparta. The most pressing of them all is the demand of "earth and water" from the Persian great king of the Achaemenid Empire, Xerxes I. The demand had been sent to all city-states barring Sparta and Athena-----the demand to hand over all the rights over their territories as well as harvest, which substantially means a complete capitulation.

    Although many of the city-states ended up choosing the path of subordination under the mighty Persia, an allied force with Sparta and Athena at its center had chosen to fight them instead.
    But unfortunately, as the Persian invasion began, the sacred Festival of Carnea was being held in Sparta, overlapping with the Olympiads in the whole Greece; making it impossible for the great army to move about.*

    -----Would the descendants of Perseus fall to ruin, or would the king whose bloodline had descended from Heracles die?

    Leonidas had comprehended the meaning of the phropet's oracle.
    "In other words, should I runaway while holding my life, then Sparta would be ruined."
    Leonidas did not hesitate. He led 300 of his elites and deployed an formation in the valley of Thermopylae, known as the "Hot Gates", fighting the entirety of the famed Persian army that numbered to 100,000 warriors for three days to the bitter end.

    However, the Spartan army was stabbed in the back of their formation and was completely annihilated because of a traitor, excepting only Aristodemus, who had been blinded and had to withdraw from the army. At that time, the soldiers of Sparta bite and fought back with bare hands, as they have been deprived of their weapons. Leonidas' spear wasn't able to reach Xerxes, but the three days that Leonidas and his 300 subordinates have earned had not been in vain; due to it, the allied force of Greeks had managed to prepare themselves to repel the Persian army.
    It had been no fluke that just this king and his 300 had managed to save the world of Greece.

    On the gravesite of the 300 Spartan soldiers, the poet Simonides had engraved the following:

    "Go, tell the Spartans, stranger passing by
    That here, obedient to their laws, we lie."

    (*Spartan law forbid military activity during a sacred feastival, and during the Olympiads aka Olympic Games, the Olympic truce is in effect, so Spartan army marching to war would be blasphemous.)
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    Connection with other characters
    Hector
    Their circumstances were different, but Leonidas emphatizes with him as they both are someone who had fought a defensive battle. But Hector isn't really keen on following along with his training, so Leonidas is a bit lonely.

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    Being mutual shieldbearer Servants, I have a feeling that she looks up to me in an unusual gaze of respect.... Well then, it would not do if I don't forge myself and fulfill her expectations!
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    Comment from Illustrator
    In his design, at first I wasn't made aware that Leonidas is the lead of a certain movie. I was quite troubled, being overly conscious of intending to keep the design free of preconception. But in the end, Leonidas' figure becomes as he is now, shown quite simply and easily recognized. Later, due to the lack of materials other than some simple speech style, I ended up designing him with a bit of a stalwart image. But then I played around with some service here and there and I'm immensely surprised that he became such a pleasant character than exceeds even my imagination. Still, I am relieved that everybody accept the gap between the tough design and the pleasant character. Now that I think about it, I'm really glad I created a differing expression for when he wears his helmet. I like drawing muscles, so he is a character I would love to draw again even in a different figure. (Shimaudon)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shimaudon
    he is a character I would love to draw again even in a different figure.
    Please do

    Kinda sad that he has nothing to say about Herk or Perseus, but I guess I shouldn't expect much from Mats I and II.
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    Hm, interesting. Going by Astolfo's profile they might be taking the Song of Roland's "all the paladins died at Roncevaux" part, although Roland isn't a paladin there and Astolfo doesn't even appear.

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    oh btw

    apparently Enomotia means squad
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zork Knight View Post
    Hm, interesting. Going by Astolfo's profile they might be taking the Song of Roland's "all the paladins died at Roncevaux" part, although Roland isn't a paladin there and Astolfo doesn't even appear.
    Even his death was without fanfare. At the battle of Roncevaux Pass, despite being caught unawares by treason, the Twelve Peers of Charlemagne fought valiantly.
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    Thanks for the translation, Castor. It's cool to know that Leonidas' Noble Phantasm has the ability to be used to counterattack and not just defend.

    However, already disturbing atmosphere had drifted to the surroundings of the city-state of Sparta.
    Is this sentence missing a word though?
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    I noticed a few servants in the Index only have parts of their profiles translated, will these be finished or was it done like that simply because there was no new information outside of those summaries?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laserman View Post
    Is this sentence missing a word though?
    no?
    i mean i just move the "already" to the front

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duelknight View Post
    I noticed a few servants in the Index only have parts of their profiles translated, will these be finished or was it done like that simply because there was no new information outside of those summaries?
    people didnt really translate fully back in the days

    and who can blame them, its like a lot of text

    sometimes i wonder why do i even do this
    oh right the epeen

    tldr me and clyton and others are planning on sweeping the whole 4 books
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    Quote Originally Posted by castor212 View Post
    no?
    i mean i just move the "already" to the front
    Well, if you say it's okay, I guess it's okay then.
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    i guess its a bit weird sounding; changed it so it flows better

    also i may not translate for like, 2 weeks or so
    gonna read newest chapter
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mizukume View Post
    BTW if no one plan to take Nero Bride and Kiyohime, I'll get to them once I'm done with Tamamo and Tamamo Cat.
    I was requested to do Nero Bride but I'll hand it to you since I know you can do it much better than me!

    On the other hand, here's a couple of more profiles I finished.

    Caligula: https://www.reddit.com/r/grandorder/...o_material_ii/
    David: https://www.reddit.com/r/grandorder/...rial_ii_minor/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clyton View Post
    I was requested to do Nero Bride but I'll hand it to you since I know you can do it much better than me!

    On the other hand, here's a couple of more profiles I finished.

    Caligula: https://www.reddit.com/r/grandorder/...o_material_ii/
    David: https://www.reddit.com/r/grandorder/...rial_ii_minor/
    I noticed that David has 3 scenario writers, why is that? Is that why his personality section is so huge compared to the other Servants?
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    HF felt like Nasu holding up a megaphone and screaming, "LOOK AT HOW SAD THIS IS! ISN'T IT SAD? YOU SHOULD FEEL SAD!"


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    > Einzbern

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    Pick one


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    Palingenesis just sounds like we're creating Sarah Palin.


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    >tfw you betray your ideals to get some


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    Quote Originally Posted by Laserman View Post
    I noticed that David has 3 scenario writers, why is that? Is that why his personality section is so huge compared to the other Servants?
    I think it has to do with how originally David was created for the Apo moba before it was canceled. The Servants there was all created by a whole assortment of people. If you look at other Apo Servants from the game you see most of them also have multiple authors, one that first created and the other that the charge of writing them when they poped in other works like GO. Thats what I think anyhow.
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    The other Apo Servants though have sorter personality sections (I'm also counting their motives and attitudes towards their masters as part of it as well) which basically have 2-4 paragraphs. Granted this is also similar to other servants who've appeared in previous works (such as the main series, Zero, and Extra, etc.) but they also have more text in their paragraphs as well. Were David and Kintoki meant to play a bigger part in the original concept for Fate/Apocrypha?

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