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[Iceblade44]

Just people the Moon Cell picks to lead it's programs in defending it or something?

Maybe, but then you have cases in GO where Top Servants are mentioned also

[Tobias]

Actually in extella one of the things it noted was that the mooncell picks top servants based on what it needs. As an example, it specifically notes it picked saber because she was an exceptionally strong servant slayer. Because she was good at defeating other strong heroes, it selected her to interfere with Archimedes plans.

likely alaxander as well as some particular affinity or skill that made him useful for selection.

[Lily Emilio]

Prolly dumb question, but did we get info on what a "Top Servant" is

beyond that they're stronk I mean, like do they have some special characteristics (Grand candidate, more impressive Saint Graph, special NPs or somesuch) or is it just a fancy title to note powerful servants?

In the case of Moon Cell it picks 7 strongest servants it can find that suit its need and summon them in certain order to deal with internal threats such as Archimedes or Karl. We now knew all of them: Karna, Arjuna, Scathach, Iskandar, Artoria, Jeanne, Gilgamesh. It might get the inspiration from the Counter Guardians and the Grand Servants, but these servants are summoned with no extra special characteristics other than 1) Saint Graph cannot exist for a long period of time and will go away once they finished their job, 2) Has direct mana support from the Moon Cell.

But for the most part, they usually fail to accomplish their job and have to work with Hakuno, bakakoutei, dagitsune and a bunch of other servants. Jeanne probably got the most shit out of all and Gilgamesh is a clown for the most part, then Iskandar is not used to fighting in the new environment. I think Karna and Arjuna did the most work for what their mission are out of all of them, if you count both Extella and Extella Link.

[Zurvan]

In true TM fashion, the top dogs tend to job

Thanks Mizu and Tobias

[Iceblade44]

Actually in extella one of the things it noted was that the mooncell picks top servants based on what it needs. As an example, it specifically notes it picked saber because she was an exceptionally strong servant slayer. Because she was good at defeating other strong heroes, it selected her to interfere with Archimedes plans.

likely alaxander as well as some particular affinity or skill that made him useful for selection.

Well the common selection of Servants the Moon Cell picked was so that they could deal with Altera. Saber as you said is a strong warrior and Excalibur was to be the final option against Sefar. Iskandar is probably similar, that he was there to beat Altera. This is supported by Altera and Iskandar's side story in that Altera was kicking to beat Iskandar when she did as he wasn't used to fighting in the Moon Cell. If he did get his footing it was made clear that Iskandar was pretty much as strong as her if not even stronger in actually being able to overwhelm her.

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In true TM fashion, the top dogs tend to job

Thanks Mizu and Tobias

Of course, being strong is just a fluffy description. Jobbing is the real pride of being the best of the best.

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. Jeanne probably got the most shit out of all .

The thing I don't get why summon a Ruler if your not gonna give CS moon cell. It doesn't matter of the HGW is done and in the past, of you want Jeanne to do her job give her support. I can see a little why Jeanne is a Top given how famous she is and central to history going by the Orleans Singualarity but she's certainly an outlier compared to the other ones. Gil even mocked her for that when she was killed by Cu in her route(though that was also a underestimation of Cu as well.) Jeanne is strong, her defenses are pretty powerful(If I remember didn't she survive a barrage from GoB, something that consistly broke high level barriers such as what Medea and even Archi's in the game were), but to me it feels like she's the Arash of the group, very competent warrior but really doesn't fit in pure specialness to others or that's my brief thoughts into it. I know I'm not cutting Jeanne enough slack but that is my impression.

[Lily Emilio]

I mean, Karl is also Ruler with all Ruler class skills, but he doesn't have command spells.

[Laserman]

Are you still going to translate the profiles you said you were going to, Mizukume?

[Lily Emilio]

Not until I got through my JLPT this July.

[asterism42]

I mean, Karl is also Ruler with all Ruler class skills, but he doesn't have command spells.

I expect it'll be one of those 'sacrifice class ability for OP skill/NP' deals. Would not be surprised if he has Dimitte in lieu of Command Spells.

[Deathhappens]

I expect it'll be one of those 'sacrifice class ability for OP skill/NP' deals. Would not be surprised if he has Dimitte in lieu of Command Spells.

Jeanne didn't get anything like that, though. Unless you call being able to use La Pucelle and then get rezzed by Hakuno's CS hacks a skill.

Funniest thing is, in Extella at least, AI Jeanne will still try to use La Pucelle against you and basically suicide if you let her despite not having that backup. With a decent chance that it's not even going to take you with her, even.

[castor212]

bit of trivia

[SPOILER=Gilgamesh Caster CMT BMCMIIW]Melam Dingir's name presumably comes from melam (melammu in akkadian), a concept of ancient Mesopotamian divinity, which is a "mantle of radiance" type of blazing light that is worn like a garment depicted like a light aura that surrounds a deity or demon, and dingir which is simply Sumerian words for god, used to denote religious names and related concepts. So literally Godly Divine Radiance? I dunno how SUmer grammar works. But weird choice of name, considering Gil denounces the gods.

So looking back at Babylonia

Dingir was used as a furigana for 神権印章, lit. Seal of Divine Right (not lock seal, more like stamp sort of seal) when describing the canon itself
which is also the name of that clay tablet thing CasGil have
its also count as one of the King's Treasure too. THe canons, i mean.

Merlin also said further that "Dingir" denotes deification.
Deification is by merit. A god did not become a god by being approved by a god, but by man. Faith of humanity makes of the gods.

Gil called his cannons Dingir as a way to say that if deification comes from humanity, than using this Dingir canons to protect Uruk signifies that humanity would be the source of what protects humanity itself.
Also this is another of Gil's selfnamed NP.

to be honest imo this is kinda convoluted. makes sense, but weirdly indirect.

anyway just something i found when rereading and archiving story lore stuffs.

[GundamFSN]

Tldr: Gil's BP cannon is the crystalization of humanity's belief.

Another case of Nasu's "humanity stronkest."

[Iceblade44]

Tldr: Gil's BP cannon is the crystalization of humanity's belief.

Another case of Nasu's "humanity stronkest."

And yet it's only at B rank.

B rank anti fortress so I guess it's a little more impressive

[castor212]

the rank probably does not reflect only the damage it does (which should be tremendous, its a BP canon)
but also takes into consideration its poor aim and spread out damage

[Lily Emilio]

Also in babylonia it was the people of Uruk who were in charge of firing the cannons for the most part, only by the end when Tiamat arrived Gil went and fire the cannons himself.

And I think anti-fortress also refers to the fact that it is indeed being used to defend a fortress.

[castor212]

to add onm the trivia, those canons uses literal lapis lazuli as explosive trigger instead of, like, normal explosive poweder when used by the soldiers
gil's self fire uses pure maryoku instead but still
truly the most expensive of canons

i do wish they had elaborated more on the nature of Melam Dingir for CasGil as a Servant

[UshiProtector]

Isn't Romulus also a Top Servant? I think they said it somewhere.

[Iceblade44]

I think the Extella mats mentioned something along those lines yeah

[Dragolord09]

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[Lily Emilio]

Isn't Romulus also a Top Servant? I think they said it somewhere.

Romulus "would be a Top Servant if summoned in SE.RA.PH by Moon Cell". But Moon Cell did not summon him, so you can say he is Moon Cell's Top Servant candidate.