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    Quote Originally Posted by pinetree View Post
    Zealot has the Zabaniyas of all previous Hassans, that's 18 NPs. The one she doesn't have is Hundred faces'
    There are 19 Hassans in total. King Hassan included.
    Either he has a Zabaniya or Zealot SOMEHOW has Azrael.
    Well Azrael is "indiscriminate decapitation by the use of his sword". It's basically King Hassan using his sword to decapitate the enemy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mizukume View Post
    Well Azrael is "indiscriminate decapitation by the use of his sword". It's basically King Hassan using his sword to decapitate the enemy.
    Yeah, which is why her having it would be so weird.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinetree View Post
    That doesn't work.
    She has Medidative Sensitivity, a technique that can't be connected to any known Hassan and that she doesn't actually know how to use correctly. The narrative makes it pretty clear to me that this is his Zabaniya, the leap from "can sense everything" to "can't be sensed" is an easy one to make.
    How does that makes it not work? If anything, that supports my theory.

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    Maybe King Hassan isn’t actually one of the 19 Hassans.

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    I'm probably dumb but what if someone has 2 Zabaniya

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    Well, although this happens a lot in fiction, it is sad to see how Buddha is worthless against Kiara, if I read the mats right.

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    I don't see how that's the case, considering Extra material book said only one with his power can go against her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mizukume View Post
    I don't see how that's the case, considering Extra material book said only one with his power can go against her.
    According to China, the new mats have boost Kiara enough that Buddha is her bitch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rxrx View Post
    According to China, the new mats have boost Kiara enough that Buddha is her bitch.
    Nope I don't see that at all. Buddha in Extra is Saver class servant while Kiara is a Beast.

    If you're talking about Nega-Saver, I still think it's just a passive skill that grants her null resistance when hit by Saver and Ruler skills. Nothing can save her from being moksha by Buddha's NP..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Base View Post
    Maybe King Hassan isn’t actually one of the 19 Hassans.
    unless the TL fucked up, that isn't it

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    Sanzang is pretty effective against her then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DTTS View Post
    unless the TL fucked up, that isn't it
    He is not then. Just an excecutor for other 19 Hassan
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    Also Nega-Saver is "nullify skills of Ruler and Saver CLASS" so I always thought it's referring to their class skills such as Charisma A+ and Counter Hero for Saver, TND + God's Resolution + MR for Ruler. Like if Jeanne uses command spells on Kiara it won't work, and she is unaffected by parameter rank down of Saver's Counter Hero. And again, Saver in Extra is in fact restricted by a servant container and even in that state his NP is capable of being used to control the Moon Cell and prune timelines. We actually never saw his true form, and his dharma form is, well....Golden Fox, who is far beyond even Kiara in CCC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knight of Rebellion13 View Post
    Sanzang is pretty effective against her then?
    Basically to go against her you need to turn off all desires, which a being like Saver can. We could fight her in CCC collab also because of BB giving us drugs for that purpose.

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    Glad that it is cleared up. Thanks Mizu. Anyway, Takao's comments on Parvati page really reminds me why mess media is a easily used too for abuse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knight of Rebellion13 View Post
    He is not then. Just an excecutor for other 19 Hassan
    No he is.

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    The pic basically confirms that.

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    but of all 19 of us

    including himself? 0_o
    He survived against himself?
    He just can say it without "us" word
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    Well, if he is part of the 19 Hassans, then KH is nothing serious to worry about since F/AP says grail war participants all have means to handle the Hassans if they are summoned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PioneerOfTheStarsEX View Post
    How does that makes it not work? If anything, that supports my theory.
    How exactly does it support your theory?

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    The whole "only in death does duty end" bit doesn't mean he always comes and kills you at the end. He explicitly only kills Hassans that stray from the proper path. The rest (including presumably himself) can still die by either natural causes or other enemy activity. Anyway, he can't be "The First Hassan" and NOT be a Hassan. Most likely:

    a) it's a mistake by Narita

    b) some Hassan had more than one Zabaniya

    c) there's an "unofficial" Hassan somewhere who wasn't recorded for whatever reason

    d)it's Zealot'a own Zabaniya from an alternative timeline

    e) other convenient explanation
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    I have my doubts when the origins of one of Zealot’s Zabaniyas and everything about Spooky Hassan still remain unknowns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pinetree View Post
    How exactly does it support your theory?
    Quote Originally Posted by Deathhappens View Post
    c) there's an "unofficial" Hassan somewhere who wasn't recorded for whatever reason
    my headcanon for now is that Shadow Lantern is that unofficial Hassan, since the Assassins themselves are not sure if he even existed.

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