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    Just pretend Admonishment is Tristan trash-talking the target, it fits well enough.

    As for the belt, something something it gives him Green Knight-like powers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iceblade44 View Post
    Yeah that skill wasn't in the mats
    Such a waste. Gawain would look good in a green sash. And it would be perfect to include as an in-game skill.
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    Gilgamesh fired weapons like rockets back in the day, Enkidu was a shapeshifting mud doll, Elizabeth Bathory had dragon blood, the origin of life is an insane giant, and vampires rule over humans in this odd way where they claim to be the apex of life and are perfect beings. Also every planet has super ultimate beings that are the apex of each planet and will one day come to Earth to rock our shit, and each of these ultimate beings are comparable to vampires.
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    Jeanne was speaking to the counter force and Karl was driven by aliens. And Jesus was probably Martha's imaginary friend, I'd imagine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zork Knight View Post
    Just pretend Admonishment is Tristan trash-talking the target, it fits well enough.
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    I mean that's pretty much what he did in Camelot and it was quite effective.

    Also wasn't Tristan kinda abrasive in the CCC event? I forget?
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    So Castor (and Clyton as well) seeing that you to tl the mats I thought should help out in finding complete profiles scans for you since you don't have the book. Other than Bedivere there are complete scans for.

    Ozy














    Raikou







    There seems to be a page missing here, the page with the relationships, im sorry. Does anyone know where they can find a pic of it?







    (there's one pic missing here that wasn't in the album)
    Lancer Artoria












    Da Vinci












    Enkidu










    Cas Gil












    Merlin












    Goetia





















    Solomon






    The scanner didn't seem to include the artists comment.


    And that's it for now. If you really want to tackle this then how ahead tho do be careful and take your time because no matter how you look at it this is alot of stuff. Just posting this here if you really wanna.
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    preemptively claiming Ozy

    muh king
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    Shuten-douji
    Class: Assassin
    True Name: Shuten-douji
    Sex: Female
    Sources: “Otogizoushi (Fairy-Tale Books)”, etc.
    Region: Japan
    Alignment: Chaotic Evil
    Height: 145cm
    Weight: 46kg

    Character Creator: Sakurai Hikaru
    Character Designer: Honjou Raita
    Character Voice: Yuuki Aoi
    Major Appearances in Main Works: Fate/Grand Order



    Parameters

    Strength: A
    Constitution: B
    Agility: B
    Magical Power: A+
    Luck: D
    Noble Phantasm: B


    Class Skills

    Presence Concealment: C
    A Skill to erase one’s own presence.
    As for Shuten-douji herself, she does not have much of a motivation to erase her presence.

    Divinity: C
    Shuten-douji is the child of Yamata no Orochi-Kuzuryuu. Because she is falling into the state of an Oni, the Rank has dropped.


    Personal Skills

    Alcoholic Scent of Fruits: A
    Targets can be made dead drunk – similar to being charmed even – from one’s tone of voice, sigh, or even just their gaze that possesses the aroma of a fruit’s alcoholic scent. If they are beings that do not have the means for magical defense (common people and animals), their thoughts will end up melting completely in an instant. Essentially a Charisma Skill and a charm Skill, it is a composite Skill of both Skills. Even if they are Servants, there is a likelihood for them to feel charmed if they do not have the means to defend against this. It is even possible to eventually throw the targets into insanity.

    Demon of the Oni Kind: A
    A Skill that represents the superpower and demonic nature of an Oni. With the exception of Oni and those that are mixed-race beings with Oni blood, one is not able to acquire this Skill. It is even a mixed Skill of the Natural Monster Skill, Monstrous Strength Skill, Charisma Skill, Magical Burst Skill, etc. The form of an Oni’s Magical Burst is commonly thought of as something related to “Heat”.

    Battle Continuation: A+
    The ability to continue combat.
    Combat is possible even when receiving a decisive fatal wound.
    Because of the folklore where she attacked Minamoto no Raikou, combat is possible for Shuten-douji even if her head is decapitated.


    Noble Phantasms

    Senshibankou – Shinpen Kidoku (Multitude of Colours – Providential Oni Poison)
    Rank: B
    Classification: Anti-Army Noble Phantasm
    Range: 1~50
    Maximum Number of Targets: 100 people

    It is originally the poisonous sake drank by Shuten-douji because of Minamoto no Raikou and her Four Heavenly Kings. Now that she became a Heroic Spirit, this poisoned sake has been sublimated into Shuten-douji’s general existence. To her, the only purpose of the “sake” is to pollute the surroundings with poison at once. By manipulating its concentration, she can bestow every Bad Status Ailment to her opponents. If it is at its greatest concentration, it will decompose all of the living body, leaving nothing but a few bones behind. The gourd for the sake, held underneath her arm, can further change into a weapon that holds a sword in its mouth, and also, it is even said to be a cage that locks up the spoils that fascinated Shuten-douji.

    Bone Collector: The Riot of a Hundred Flowers (My Nickname)
    Rank: B
    Classification: Anti-Personnel Noble Phantasm
    Range: 1
    Maximum Number of Targets: 1 person

    An ability Shuten-douji was endowed with since birth, or a super-high grade special move. She literally “debones” her opponent completely. She extracts a bone without spilling blood————As long as she does not make a mistake in the location of her attack, her opponent will immediately die. Whether it was inherited from her father, who is worthy of being a malevolent god, whether it was inherited from her cannibalistic mother, or whether it is an ability that originated from Shuten-douji herself, it is unclear. Now that she exists as a Heroic Spirit, this ability – or technique otherwise – has been transformed into an Anti-Personnel Noble Phantasm. One should not necessarily assume that the purpose of doing this is to kill her opponent, but if she feels like doing it, this operates as a Noble Phantasm with an exceedingly high probability of causing instant death.



    Character

    First Person Pronoun: uchi
    Second Person Pronouns: anta-han / danna-han (sir) / ○○ / ○○-han
    Third Person Pronouns: an hito / ano hito / are


    Personality

    Under the moonlight, a man-eating flower is glamorously in full bloom to the extent that it is stealing away the eyes of those watching. An Oni wearing a girl’s form, narrowing her eyes and licking her lips with her seductive tongue. It may not be known that although her outward appearance properly resembles a human girl, Shuten-douji is not a human being. Even though she seems to communicate with words like a human being, she is essentially different from human beings. Her preferences are similar to a human’s, but for her to love something is especially said to be a theory, from the idea that if she suddenly killed the things she loved with her own hands, it could not be understood by humans as love. Although she knows love, requests love, and clasps love to her breasts, it is impossible to overlap that love with the right people. Her love is accompanied with blood;
    Her love spreads death;
    Her love tears one’s heart.
    The impulse hidden below her white naked body is surely swelling up, being twisted, and rolling over from side to side.
    Therefore one can say with confidence that she is an Oni.


    Motive / Attitude towards the Master

    Shuten-douji does not speak of her wish for the Holy Grail. Just like how she was when she was alive – going wherever her fancy takes her, she thinks and behaves as she likes, not being any different whether she is in the bygone days or in the present days.
    In addition, Shuten-douji is also a collector of antiques and rarities, even having a keen interest in the Red Dragon’s ulna dwelling in Kintoki’s arm. It appears that she attaches an importance to an article’s rarity and the elegance of their appearance, so she is incompatible with, for instance, the Hero King who attaches an importance to an article’s performance/history.


    Speech Examples

    Fufu. Thank you very much… for summoning me. Although I’ll be doing things as it suits me————There’s no problem with that, yes?
    Thank you… very much.
    Though you don’t need to be afraid of me to such an extent; I won’t pull out your… bones, y’know? Fufu. Good child, good child.
    Yesterday as well as today, you’re quite a… fairly busy person. Although it’d be fine if you lounged around a bit instead of working so busily.
    Yes, that’s right————It’d please me if you died.


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    The boss who governed the Oni within the castle structure on Mount Ooe during the Heian Period. There are various theories about Shuten-douji’s origins. There is a theory where she is considered the child of a human and the Great Shining God of Ibuki from Mount Ibuki (- Yamata no Orochi), and there is another theory where she is considered the heaven-sent child of Mount Togakushi (- Kuzuryuu). At any rate, she is the child of a Dragon God, possessing a shared background with Sakata Kintoki.

    Because of the disappearances of young men and princesses at the Imperial Capital happening one after another, Abe no Seimei was in the process of doing a divination to find out the culprit, and he ascertained the matter to be the deed of Shuten-douji. Raikou’s Four Heavenly Kings, lead by Minamoto no Raikou himself, was ordered to subjugate her, arriving at the Oni’s castle while dressed in itinerant Buddhist monk attires. At the banquet, Raikou and the others made Shuten-douji and her group drink poisoned sake, then attacked them while they were asleep, punishing them. Shuten-douji’s removed head attacked Raikou, but it is said that the attack was thwarted due to the latter’s helmet that was given by a god.

    In this work, it was “Ibaraki-douji” who was the ringleader/boss of the Oni on Mount Ooe, and Shuten-douji was perching on the Oni palace of Mount Ooe as some kind of house guest————That was the taken point of view. However, the one who was viewed by the gods as the ancestor of the Oni, Ibuki-douji – that is to say, the existence of Shuten-douji – was certainly adequate enough to draw the attention of the authorities of ancient Kyoto, Abe no Seimei, and the others. Surely, the most dangerous existence among the Oni of Mount Ooe was no doubt Shuten-douji, so to speak.

    Whether she is the direct “child” of the Great Shining God of Ibuki, or whether she is a “descendant” who inherited its blood, it is not clear. In the end, Shuten-douji herself does not speak about her origins. The alias called ‘Ibuki-douji’ is just something attached to her by Ibaraki-douji, who saw the true nature of Yamata no Orochi’s powers in her. It may not be discovered that Shuten-douji herself has forgotten her past and the likes of it. As long as there is beguiling alcohol, brilliant banquets and enjoyable performances, she has no regrets.

    And yet… from the way it seems, one cannot conclude that Shuten-douji had completely forgotten her past in regard to the existence of Sakata Kintoki – one who possesses origins similar to her own (being the child of a man-eating witch and a Dragon God), the man hanging in her mind ever since the time when he was young.

    Shuten-douji’s connection with Sakata Kintoki continues on since that time. Given that this companion was easy to tease on some occasions, she had a good time while being accompanied with snacks and alcohol. As far as Shuten is concerned, they are nothing more than drinking bouts, but as far as Kintoki is concerned, they are demonic banquets that would kill him if he took the atmosphere lightly.
    To struggle for life while intoxicated in alcohol. Isn’t it romantic to cheat each other while hugging our bodies?
    Such is Shuten’s eloquence.


    Connections to Other Characters

    Sakata Kintoki
    Fufu. That blond-haired, blue-eyed youngster Still the same as usual…
    As a matter of fact, Shuten-douji thinks it is better for Kintoki to take off those sunglasses. If she sees a chance, she will take them off.

    Ibaraki-douji
    "On the occasion where my head was decapitated at Mount Ooe, while like that, I thought, ‘This is my final farewell to Ibaraki.’ ’Twas a strange relationship we had. Sharpening my horns like that even during this morning That naughty kid hasn’t changed, you know.

    Minamoto no Raikou
    What, a cow is mooing? Fufu, I wonder what it is.

    Raikou’s Four Heavenly Kings
    Ibaraki would be delighted if Master Tsuna came around, no? Oh, Ibaraki, your face is deeply red from hearing this sort of thing? What, what, are you spouting out blood from your forehead in that much rage from having heard Tsuna’s name? Yes, that’s… good.

    Abe no Seimei
    (Laughing) “Eh? What? After all, it can’t be helped that it’s amusing.

    Tamamo-no-Mae
    Ohhhhhhh. Hmm. That fox… So she’s that kind of woman here. Well, thats very… you know…?"

    Ura / Otakemaru / The Akuro Lord
    Come to think of it, I don’t see them appearing around here. Yknow, we are all said to be Anti-Heroes, so it seems to be difficult to summon them. Ah, that’s not true. There’s a way to summon them, yes.

    Kouga Saburou and his family line
    For me to utter about them… theres no reason to. Truly… intolerable————



    Comment from Illustrator

    I requested to draw a lolibaba who speaks in a Kyoto dialect and who acts lively yet restrained, so Im thankful to get the OK to only put on a kimono over her practically naked body for her appearance. Her equipment seems to be a collection of shops making a sudden visit to Kyoto, but I wanted to include a multicultural design to give somebody the impression of the Silk Road, so it might have been nice to incorporate some more. Also, her magnificent voice is alluring, and its also the best that her dialogues create a smokescreen by mixing together truth and falsehood; I’m melting~ (Honjou Raita)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clyton View Post
    So being tired while reading Kyoto dialect is quite troublesome for me, so I'm going to leave that part for tomorrow unfortunately. For now, you can have the rest of the profile.

    Shuten-douji
    True Name: Shuten-douji
    Class: Assassin
    Source: “Otogizoushi”, etc.
    Region: Japan
    Gender: Female
    Alignment: Chaotic Evil
    Height: 145cm
    Weight: 46kg

    Scenario Writer: Hikaru Sakurai
    Character Illustrator: Raita Honjou
    Character Voice: Aoi Yuuki
    Appearance in Main Works: Fate/Grand Order



    Parameters

    Strength: A
    Endurance: B
    Agility: B
    Mana: A+
    Luck: D
    Noble Phantasm: B

    Class Skills

    Presence Concealment: C
    A Skill to erase one’s presence. As for the person herself, she does not have much of a motivation to erase her presence.

    Divinity: C
    She is a child of Kuzuryuu = Yamata no Orochi. Because she falls under the Oni Kind, the rank has dropped.

    Personal Skills

    Alcoholic Fruit: A
    A target can be made dead drunk from a sigh, a tone of voice, or even a gaze that possesses an aroma of a tipsiness of a fruit, similar to being enchanted. In the case of beings that do not have the means for magical defense (common people and animals), their thoughts end up melting in an instant. Originally being Fascination and Charisma, it is a Skill that combines both these Skills. Even in the case of Servants, her nature as a dragon can make them feel charmed if they do not have ways to defend against this. In the end, it is also possible to trick the target into Insanity.

    Oni Kind Demon: A
    A Skill to represent the demonic nature and superpower of an Oni. With the exception of Oni Kinds and mixed-race beings, one is not able to acquire this Skill. It is a mixed Skill of the Mana Burst Skill, Charisma Skill, Monstrous Strength Skill, Natural Monster Skill, etc., but in Fate/Grand Order, the effects are adjusted. The form of Mana Burst is commonly associated with “Heat”.

    Battle Continuation: A+
    The ability for the continuation of combat. Combat is possible even after receiving a decisive fatal wound, even if her head is decapitated, as it is based on the folklore where she attacked Minamoto no Raikou.

    Noble Phantasms

    Multitude of Colors – Providential Oni Poison
    Rank: B
    Type: Anti-Army
    Range: 1~50
    Maximum Number of Targets: 100 people

    It is originally the poisonous sake drank by Shuten-douji because of Minamoto no Raikou and the Four Heavenly Kings. Now that she became a Heroic Spirit, this poisoned sake has sublimated into the general existence of Shuten-douji. The “sake’s” single purpose to her is to pollute the surroundings with poison at once. By manipulating its concentration, she can bestow every bad status aliment. As for its concentration, it decomposes all of the living body, leaving nothing but a few bones behind. The gourd for the sake, carried in a pouch, is said to be a cage to lock up her spoils, fascinating Shuten-douji, and also, it is a weapon that can turn into a sword, held in the mouth of the gourd.

    Bone Collector: Riot of Flowers (Nickname)
    Rank: B
    Type: Anti-Unit
    Range: 1
    Maximum Number of Targets: 1 person

    An ability Shuten-douji possesses naturally, or a super-high grade special move. She literally “debones” the opponent. She extracts the bones without spilling blood————if she does not make a mistake in the location of the attack, the opponent will immediately die. Whether it’s inherited from her father who is worthy to be a malevolent god, or whether it’s inherited from her cannibalistic mother, or if it’s an ability that originated from Shuten-douji herself, it is unclear. Now that she exists as a Heroic Spirit, this ability or technique has been converted into an Anti-Unit Noble Phantasm. The purpose of doing this isn’t always to kill the opponent, but if she feels like doing it, this operates as a Noble Phantasm with an exceedingly high probability for instant death.



    First Pronoun: uchi
    Second Pronoun: anta-han / dan’na-han / ** / **-han
    Third Pronoun: an hito / ano hito / are

    Personality

    Under the moonlight, a man-eating flower is glamorously in full bloom while stealing away the eyes of the people watching. A demon wearing a girl’s form, narrowing her eyes while licking her lips seductively. It may not be known that although her outward appearance properly resembles a human girl, she is not a human being. Even though she seems to communicate with words like a human being, she is essentially a different being. Her preferences are similar to a human’s, but for her to love something is but a theory, from the idea that if she suddenly put her hand on the things she loves, it would not be understood by humans. Although she knows love, requests love, and embraces love, it is impossible to overlap that love with the right people. Her love is accompanied with blood; her love spreads death; her love tears one’s heart. Her impulse hidden under her white naked body is surely rising and swelling, being distorted, and turning around. Therefore, she is a demon.

    Motivation/Attitude towards the Master

    Shuten-douji doesn’t talk about her wish for the Holy Grail. Like how she was while alive, she thinks and behaves as she likes, not being different, either in the present or in the past. Also, she is a collector of antiques and rarities, even having a keen interest in the Red Dragon Ulna dwelling on Kintoki’s arm. She appears to attach an importance on rarity and on the elegance of their appearances regarding those items, so she is incompatible with the King of Heroes who attaches an importance on the items’ history and performance.

    Dialogue Examples

    “Fufu. Thank you so kindly for summoning me. I’ll largely be doing as I like————you wouldn’t mind, would you?”
    “Thank you kindly, thank you.”
    “Now, no need to tremble so, I won’t take your bones. Fufu. Good boy, good boy.”
    “Yesterday, today… you’re so very busy, no? It would be so nice if you could just relax, instead of working so hard.”
    “Ah, that is right————Go on and die now.”

    Character Picture

    The boss that governed the Oni within the castle structure on Mount Ooe during the Heian period. There are various theories about Shuten-douji’s origins. There is a theory where she is considered the child of a human and the Great God Ibuki of Mount Ibuki (= Yamata no Orochi), and there is another theory where she is considered the heaven-sent child of Mount Togakushi (= Kuzuryuu). At any rate, she is the child of a Dragon God, possessing a shared background with Sakata Kintoki.

    Because of the disappearances of young men and princesses at the imperial capital happening one after another, Abe no Seimei did a divination and ascertained the matter to be the deed of Shuten-douji. Raikou’s Four Heavenly Kings, lead by Minamoto no Raikou himself, was ordered to subjugate her, arriving at the Oni’s castle while dressed in itinerant Buddhist monk attires. At the banquet, Raikou and the others made Shuten-douji and her group drink poisoned sake, then attacked them while they were asleep, punishing them. The removed head of Shuten-douji’s attacked Raikou, but it is said that the attack was thwarted due to the latter’s helmet given by a god.

    In this work, it is Ibaraki-douji who is the boss and ringleader of the Oni on Mount Ooe, and Shuten-douji was perching on the Oni palace of Mount Ooe as some kind of house guest————that was the taken point of view. However, Ibuki-douji, who is viewed as an ancestor to the gods, that is, the existence of Shuten-douji, is certainly adequate to draw the attention of the authorities of ancient Kyoto, Abe no Seimei and the others. Surely, the most dangerous existence among the Oni of Mount Ooe is no doubt Shuten-douji, so to speak.

    Whether she is the direct “child” of the Great God Ibuki, or whether she is a “descendant” who succeeded its blood, it is not clear. In the end, the person herself does not speak about her origins. The alias called Ibuki-douji is just something attached to her by Ibaraki-douji who saw the true nature of Yamata no Orochi’s power in her. It may not be discovered that the person herself has forgotten her past and the likes of it. As long as there is beguiling alcohol, brilliant banquets and enjoyable performances, she has no regrets.

    And yet… it seems that she had not completely forgotten her past regarding the existence of Sakata Kintoki, one who possesses origins similar to her own (being the child of a man-eating witch and a Dragon God), the man hanging in her mind ever since the time when he was young.

    Her connection with Sakata Kintoki continues on since that time. Given that this companion was easy to tease on some occasions, she had a good time while accompanied with snacks and alcohol. As far as Shuten is concerned, they are no more than drinking bouts, but as far as Kintoki is concerned, they are demonic banquets that would kill him if he took the atmosphere lightly. “To struggle for life while intoxicated in alcohol. Is it not romantic to cheat each other while hugging our bodies?” That is Shuten’s eloquence.



    Comment from Illustrator

    I requested to draw a lolibaba that speaks in Kyoto dialect and who acts lively yet restrained, so I am thankful to get the OK for her appearance to only put on a kimono over her practically naked body. Her equipment seems to be a collection of shops making a sudden visit to Kyoto, but I wanted to include a multicultural design to give somebody the impression of the Silk Road, so it might have been nice to incorporate some more. Also, her magnificent voice is alluring, and it is also the best that her dialogue creates a smokescreen by mixing together truth and falsehood; I’m melting~


    Credits to Master of Chaos and his original translation of Shuten-douji's FGO profile and the translated dialogued at Fate/Grand Order Wiki, as I referred to them when I wanted to make sure I captured the meaning of the sentences, etc.
    Thanks Clyton, wow Shuten is really mysterious ain't she, also noted that her perspective is different from humans.
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    Are there any additional details on Kintoki's Noble Phantasm, by any chance? Like how he actually got the bike.

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    a bit sudden but im kinda disliking bedi's Vow of Protection skill

    like ok it raises defense for allies but how

    mash version is better for me because the how is clear for her
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arashi_Leonhart View Post
    He got the bike by sumo wrestling it into submission
    Thanks for the joke response? Though it's a nice mental image.

    I just recall Kintoki mentioning somewhere that he got the thing after having slain the tsuchigumo with Raikou and the rest, though I can't find where I read that bit anymore-- so I was curious about if the event's mentioned at all, or not. Not like I'd be too surprised considering his Berserker self's Noble Phantasm isn't detailed on it's origin either, but whatever.

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    Why the fuck Casgil's Golden Rule effect is star gen buff for the entire party? Did they got it mixed up with Return of the King? And why the fuck Ozy's sun blessing is just fluff that he has blessing from Ra??? Not like this!!!

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    Also if someone can get me Alolan Tamamo scans I'll translate it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by castor212 View Post
    a bit sudden but im kinda disliking bedi's Vow of Protection skill

    like ok it raises defense for allies but how

    mash version is better for me because the how is clear for her
    Not satisfied with metaphysical buffs or its simple & direct meaning? Need game like visual sparkles around the buffed defense targets?

    Sounds nitpicky. Seems like your overthinking/over analyzing stuff again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rue View Post
    Not satisfied with metaphysical buffs or its simple & direct meaning
    Not what i was talking about. I dont mind simple and direct, but I do mind lacks of reasoning.

    Mash's is do X because Y. Simple. And good enough for me.
    Bedi's is just do X. Simple but lacking. I want the Y.

    I mean the name Vow of Protection implies a mechanism behind the defense buffs so its a shame they didnt explore it further, even if one can theorizes.
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    What all is said about Tiamat?

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    Quote Originally Posted by castor212 View Post
    Mash's is do X because Y. Simple. And good enough for me.
    Bedi's is just do X. Simple but lacking. I want the Y.

    I mean the name Vow of Protection implies a mechanism behind the defense buffs so its a shame they didnt explore it further, even if one can theorizes.
    But from that, Bedi's even simpler; his vow & intent has such conviction that it tuned into a skill with such an effect, that's it. There doesn't seem to be any need to expand or explain it further.

    Hence, why I think its overthinking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mizukume View Post
    fluttering thing.
    Thx, fixed
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    Think of it as a spread-out Guardian Knight(?).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rue View Post
    But from that, Bedi's even simpler; his vow & intent has such conviction that it tuned into a skill with such an effect, that's it. There doesn't seem to be any need to expand or explain it further.

    Hence, why I think its overthinking.
    I think you misunderstand what i meant

    This is not me overthinking it because this one as you said is a simple skill. I dont think too deep about the logical reasoning behind it.

    But its not about the reasoning or the cause itself. Its about not writing down the cause.

    I cant quote it for internetbattle lore purpose if it doesnt exist in mats and exist only as logical speculation.
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    The cause is, he has the skill
    What exactly do you want here

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