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    Thanks Castor.

    No line for Archer Gil or Ko Gil? That's too bad. Also interesting that the profile doesn't say it's only singularity Gilgamesh that can be summoned as a Caster like I thought it would. Looks like he can normally be summoned as a Caster.

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    Thank you castor

    There's one thing that I find odd, why are Gil and Enkidu talking about polar bears?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zurvan View Post
    There's one thing that I find odd, why are Gil and Enkidu talking about polar bears?
    same

    like, the antarctica thing i get because we now know where chaldea is, but im confused to as to why enkidu wants them polar bears
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    Huh I didn't know that Gil's eyes are pretty much his only legitimate NP by IRL sources.

    Again thx Castor for the TL

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    same

    like, the antarctica thing i get because we now know where chaldea is, but im confused to as to why enkidu wants them polar bears
    Enkidu wants to be with fluffy friends.
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    Kinda hard to reconcile Caster Gil having all the abilities of the Archer version and more, yet still never get summoned despite Servants defaulting to their prime.

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    Thx castor, it was amazing that your tidbit about NP names and their legend legitimacy were more interesting than the actual mat itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 8000 View Post
    Kinda hard to reconcile Caster Gil having all the abilities of the Archer version and more, yet still never get summoned despite Servants defaulting to their prime.
    Prime doesn't necessarily mean most powerful
    To make a bad analogy, if you summoned Harry Potter as a Servant you'd get him as a 17 year old student even though he was technically more powerful as an adult Auror

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    Quote Originally Posted by 8000 View Post
    Caster Gil having all the abilities of the Archer version and more
    iirc he sealed his EE as a caster in babylon
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    Quote Originally Posted by castor212 View Post
    iirc he sealed his EE as a caster in babylon
    I vaguely remember that now, but I don't think that would apply to Servant Cas Gil. Granted it doesn't mention Ea in the mats but didn't the mats also omit Invisible Air? I think they just ignore obvious stuff if it takes up space sometimes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mcjon01 View Post
    Prime doesn't necessarily mean most powerful
    To make a bad analogy, if you summoned Harry Potter as a Servant you'd get him as a 17 year old student even though he was technically more powerful as an adult Auror
    That...actually is a kinda bad analogy and I don't get it lol. But I do understand prime doesn't always mean most powerful. Caster Gil would be his prime as a ruler and Archer Gil would be his prime as a hero, so I guess it would have to default to Archer being as "King of Heroes" is his whole shtick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 8000 View Post
    Kinda hard to reconcile Caster Gil having all the abilities of the Archer version and more, yet still never get summoned despite Servants defaulting to their prime.
    In Babylon he said he sealed Ea, also since his GoB only uses magic wands and his normal gear gets regulated to become expendable explosives in just one attack I don't think he's necessarily stronger.

    Snipe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 8000 View Post
    I vaguely remember that now, but I don't think that would apply to Servant Cas Gil. Granted it doesn't mention Ea in the mats but didn't the mats also omit Invisible Air? I think they just ignore obvious stuff if it takes up space sometimes.

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    That...actually is a kinda bad analogy and I don't get it lol. But I do understand prime doesn't always mean most powerful. Caster Gil would be his prime as a ruler and Archer Gil would be his prime as a hero, so I guess it would have to default to Archer being as "King of Heroes" is his whole shtick.
    How would that not also apply to CasGil? Yes he's Servant instead of a human but the thing with him sealing Ea was because he retired his skill-set to be more mage like, thus the seal despite as a living human Gil could use Ea more stronger then we ever saw before. This Caster Gil in Chaldea is the same, he has purposely changed his fighting style to be a Caster so it wouldn't pass me that Ea was still sealed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iceblade44 View Post
    In Babylon he said he sealed Ea, also since his GoB only uses magic wands and his normal gear gets regulated to become expendable explosives in just one attack I don't think he's necessarily stronger.

    Snipe.
    I thought that was the case originally but the profile says GoB is the same, he just uses it differently. It does seem odd that he can convert the weapon supply into ammo for miniguns of which there are at least several dozen and not have that aspect hampered is odd, but I guess that's a testament to how massive the treasury is?

    Although there's this line which I don't get:
    He guards his back more compared when he is as the king of heroes, and so his meagerness during battle has increased.
    Why "meagerness" of all words? I can't figure out what this means. I guess he doesn't attack as much?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iceblade44 View Post
    How would that not also apply to CasGil? Yes he's Servant instead of a human but the thing with him sealing Ea was because he retired his skill-set to be more mage like, thus the seal despite as a living human Gil could use Ea more stronger then we ever saw before. This Caster Gil in Chaldea is the same, he has purposely changed his fighting style to be a Caster so it wouldn't pass me that Ea was still sealed.
    Is it mentioned that Chaldea Gil has Ea sealed?

    Actually now I'm annoyed the mat doesn't say anything about this.

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    Ithink its safe to assume that at the very least, from the magic wand restriction alone Cas Gil is weaker in terms of fire power than normal Gil in that department.

    Maybe.

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    The ea sealing is about mentality as a Caster anw
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    Cas Gil is stronger in that he probably doesn't job as much.
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    He's just putting the bone of his sword into other people until it explodes and lets out parts of him inside them.
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    Genderswaps are terrible, but I think I and other people would hate them less if Fate didn't keep ignoring actual heroines throughout history and folklore. Like, why bother turning Francis Drake into a woman when Ching Shih and Grace O'Malley exist?
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    That's... probably true. All the treasure in the world will do you no good if you're an imbecile.

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    FWIW, I'm not sure if it's confirmed or not, but in my mind the strongest version of Gil is when he shows up to help fight Tiamat.
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    He's just putting the bone of his sword into other people until it explodes and lets out parts of him inside them.
    Quote Originally Posted by AvengerEmiya View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by asterism42 View Post
    FWIW, I'm not sure if it's confirmed or not, but in my mind the strongest version of Gil is when he shows up to help fight Tiamat.
    Yeah that's like Super Serious Gil plus AoG backup, which is going by what Enkidu said in SF that Gil's use of Ea is weaker when he's in the modern era.
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    Quote Originally Posted by castor212 View Post
    iirc he sealed his EE as a caster in babylon
    Yet when we came back with Ibaraki he basically switched back to Archer form and started pulling out all of his toys, including spamming golden rule and drop Ea on my party. So I'm sure his "sealing" here is similar to servants refuse to make use of their stuffs i.e Tamamo, Rama, not that they outright don't have the ability. IIRC mew briefly mentioned that kind of stuffs in this topic b4. It's "I have these all the time but I don't want to use, BUT if you piss me off I will make you pay". So if you want to make Caster Gil pull out Ea, just piss him off like Ibaraki aiming for his treasure vault.

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    yeah when i said mentality as caster above i mean that
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    btw slightly updated ozy's profile because i forgot abu hol kinda refers to all those sphinxes as a whole
    also add the presumable name origin for ozy's np (that i can gather) because apparently people like those
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