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    the red (?) strategists (???)

    Oda Nobunaga CMT BMCMIIW

    Class: Archer
    True Name: Oda Nobunaga
    Gender: Female
    Source: Historical fact
    Region: Japan
    Alignment: Lawful Neutral
    Height: 152 cm
    Weight: 43 kg

    STR: C
    CON: B
    AGI: C
    MGI: B
    LCK: B
    NP: ?

    Setting creation: Keikenchi
    Original character design: Keikenchi
    Character design: pako
    CV: Takahashi Rie

    Main works appearance: Koha Ace EX, Fate/Grand Order
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    Class Skills
    Magic Resistance: B
    Invalidate magic invocation with chant 3 verses or less.
    It is hard to damage her even with great thaumaturgy or ritual spells.

    Independent Action: B
    The ability to act independently for a period even if magic energy supply from the Master is severed.
    At B rank, even if he loses his Master he is able to stay materialized for a period of 2 days. Seriously Nobbu, that a scout ability ain’t it!

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    Personal Skill
    War Strategy: B
    The ability to perceive things such as diplomacy and logistic in a large perspective, assuring victory before the battle begin.
    In the history of Japan, during the Battle of Okehazama she had executed an unparalleled form of surprise attack; however, it had been a fluke.
    In Nobunaga’s lifetime, it had been the one great battle that overturn strategic defeat into tactical victory, but that fight had been a desperation on her part. Even now she still reflects on it.

    Charisma: B-
    The ability and disposition in commanding armies. Improves the ability of her own army during group battle.
    Charisma is a rare talent, and it can be said that B rank is sufficient for a leader of a country.
    It is B- rank due to the inconsistencies in its efficacy.
    (It is fundamentally not being utilized in FateGO)

    Tenka Fubu: A
    A unique skill belonging to Nobunaga, revolutioner of the era. A conceptual revolution that imposes the new upon the old.
    Grants advantageous corrections to an extent on herself if her enemies are those with high rank “divinity” and “mystery”, or Heroic Spirits that are guardians of the system. With this, Nobunaga is able to fight advantageously against Heroic Spirit and Noble Phantasm possessing “divinity” and “mystery”.
    On the other hand, against the likes of modern Heroic Spirits with thin mystery it displayes no effect whatsoever. The efficacy of her own Noble Phantasms and all of her Skills drops instead.

    Demon King: A
    A monster that had her past’s way of being distorted later on due to the image she had when she was alive. Her abilities and figures ended up transformed.
    In Archer’s case, it is possible to voluntarily activates and deactivates it due to it being her own self-proclamation while alive. She is able to receive all the benefits and none the demerits.
    A Skill falsely similar to Innocent Monster.
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    Sandanuchi
    Three Thousand Worlds
    *

    Rank: E~A
    Type: Anti-Army Noble Phantasm
    Range: 1~99
    Maximum target: 3000 person

    Three Line Formation.
    Nobunaga’s three line shooting formation. An anti-army Noble Phantasm that deploys 3000 matchlocks and fires a volley of shootings.
    From the exceedingly famous anecdote of her destroying the warring states strongest riding corps, its power is increased against Heroic Spirits possessing the Riding Skill.
    They are simple matchlocks against those without the Skill, but even so simply a volley of 3000 shootings is a threat of its own.

    (*can also mean the universe/all worlds)
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    Dairokutenmaouhajun
    Demon King of the Sixth Heaven Papiyas


    Rank: E~EX
    Type: Anti-Divine Noble Phantasm
    Range: -
    Maximum target: -

    Dairokutenmaouhajun.
    The true Noble Phantasm of Demon King Nobunaga, destroyer of gods and buddhas. A Reality Marble that transforms her into an existence wielding an absolute power against those possessing mystery and divinity. Visual-wise, it looks as if she took off her clothes. Yey!
    The severe deeds that she had done during her live, represented in her setting ablaze Mt. Hiei, turned into a Noble Phantasm.
    By means of the fear of Nobunaga that the people would embrace and accumulate in later years, and of the sense of awe for Nobunaga, it materializes as a great inferno.
    For those possessing a high divinity, it is hard to even maintain their existence within it.
    However, those with low divinity would as expected only felt a little hot.
    (In FateGO, it is fundamentally not utilized.)
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    Personage
    First pronoun: washi/ware
    Second pronoun: sonata/omae/kisama, etc
    Third pronoun: oyatsu/are, etc

    - Character
    The king of reform, who takes the title of demon for herself.
    Haughty and full of confidence in herself, she possesses the flexible mind that is fond of new things and isn’t enslaved by antiquated customs. Soft on those she likes in self-righteousness, thoroughly cold to those she hates, and indifferent towards those without any use.

    - Motives and attitude towards Master
    Specially favors the Master as her vassal. According to her: “You are the only vassal I have ever favored this much besides the Monkey. Rejoice!”

    The demon king’s end was by the rebellion of her vassal; however, she doesn’t regret it, as it in itself is something “inevitable”.
    She does not particularly hold any wish towards the Holy Grail, but it’s quite possible that she would use the Holy Grail itself for unprecedented ideas that is her forte and makes a mess out of everything.

    - Dialogue example
    “It is inevitable!”
    “I am the Demon King of the Sixth Heaven, Oda Nobunaga!”
    “I would allow jest, but not contempt. Never forget of this.”
    “H-How exhausting...” (guda guda)
    “Nobbu!” (*Small Nobu)
    “Nobbu~!” (Big Nobu)


    - Historical depiction
    A figure that had truly brought about ruin to the Muromachi Shogunate, and had bestowed great influence in the ending of Onin War to the continuing long period of Warring States. One of the three great heroes of the Warring States, It is no exaggeration to say that this personage is the most famous figure in the history of Japan.

    In early years he had been harshly known as the Fool of Owari, or the great fool, but became serious upon inheriting the position of family head and suppressing his brother and crushing the war daimyo “Imagawa Yoshimoto” who had been known as a Kaidouuchi no Yumitori* with a somewhat desperate surprise attack. He then jumped out to the top in the race of unifying the country.

    Afterwards, he completely demonstrated a natural eye for strategy, beat the hell out of the other daimyo in her surroundings, put them under her control and well extended her influence, and finally proceeded to the capital. After taking it as an easy game and putting on the composure that the warring state period is laughably complacent, as everyone would know, he would then meet her death at the age of 49 at Honnouji, just one step awaw from the unification of the whole country. The figure who unexpectedly embodies a man's life of 50 years.**

    In FateGO, as can be seen Nobunaga is a woman. From the beginning, her father Oda Nobuhide had planned on giving the position as the head of family to her brother, Oda Nobukatsu. However, the time being the period of war, Nobukatsu’s caliber was judged to be impossible to protect House of Oda from then on, and so Kipposhi (later known as Nobunaga) who had an unusual hint for greatness despite being a woman was placed as the family head instead. Eh? It’s impossible for women to become the family head? Even the Dragon of Echigo*** seems to be a woman as well, what’s the problem then!? Don’t underestimate the warring states.

    After inheriting the position of family head, she continued to behave as a male would. But the information regulation on that matter would then be transmitted in the later years as Nobunaga’s eccentricity in her younger days, such as being “the Great Fool of Owari”. It can be said that the concealment of Nobunaga’s various amusing episode was that of a woman was thanks to her retainer’s effort of information manipulation.

    “Well, it is inevitable!”

    (*https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%B5...8F%96%E3%82%8A
    Basically a title for Sengoku warlords, usually referring to daimyo of Tokaido)
    (**lyrics of Atsumori, said to be Nobunaga’s favorite song)
    (***aka Uesugi Kenshin. Which is apparently a girl in GO.)
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    General weaponry
    Matchlock
    Japanese sword (Heshikiri Hasebe)
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    Connection with other characters
    Okita Souji
    Competed against her in a certain Holy Grail War. Being a modern Heroic Spirit with weak mystery, she should have had bad compatibility against her, but in FateGO suddenly their compatibility is reversed. Wowzers, Nobbu! Tomorrow is Honnouji!
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    Comment from Illustrator
    She was so cute in Gudaguda Order…. while feeling that, I was charmed by how her design combines between cool factor and her unbounded manner, and (ok can someone help me with this sentence :描いたら好き勝手何故か公式で描く羽m。。。描かせていただくことに。The m is actually there, I dunno if this is a typo or what)
    Be it being serious or being amusing, she is always so cute that I always enjoy it whenever I’m drawing her. Personally I think that she acquired the Heshikiri Hasabe after materializing. Together with the clothes. (pako)

    Zhuge Kongming CMT BMCMIIW


    Class: Caster
    True Name: Lord El-Melloi II / Zhuge Kongming
    Gender: Male
    Source: Annals of the Three Kingdoms historical novel
    Region: Chinese
    Alignment: Neutral Good
    Height: 186 cm
    Weight: 68 kg
    (Third ascension has his height at 157cm and weight at 50kg)

    STR: E
    CON:E
    AGI: D
    MGI: A+
    LCK: B+
    NP: A

    Setting creation: Higashide Yuuichirou
    Character design: Takeuchi Takashi
    CV: Namikawa Daisuke

    Main works appearance: Fate/Zero
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    Class Skills
    Territory Creation: A
    Creation of a "Workshop" territory that is advantageous to himself as a magus.
    It’s possible to create the “Sh Bīng Bā Zhn” that surpasses “Workshop”.

    Tool Creation: B
    By borrowing Zhuge Kongming’s power, he is capable of creating various arms and tools from his legend, such as the repeating crossbow. However, only the drug of immortality that Kongming had failed to acquired cannot be created.
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    Personal Skill
    Discerning Eye: A
    A narrower version technique of Human Observation.
    He is exceedingly outstanding in judging in what manners a human target would acquired usefulness in the future.
    However, in order to do that it is necessary for him to understand the target’s weak and strong point by means of conversation and looking at the target’s appearance to an extent.

    Advice of the Strategist: A+
    A Skill bestowed to Servants of the strategist type.
    By means of understanding and analysis of the situation, he is able to grants correct advice to allies.
    The higher the rank, the higher the chance of said advice to be correct. On A+ rank, no matter what sorts of unforeseen circumstances is included, said advice will always hit the mark 100%.
    Opposing it requires a luck on the level that can defeat any and every kind of analysis, or possession of the Skill*.

    Command of the Strategist: A+
    A Skill bestowed to Servants of the strategist type. It brings forth the maximum power of an army one belongs to.
    On A+ rank, it possesses the power equal to that of death troops determined to fight to the death as they exhaust their life.

    (*basically opposing a guy using this Skill requires another guy using this Skill)
    (i personally think of advice and command like wider and narrower MilTac. Advice is wider because it took account the surroundings, command is narrower because it specifically boost power)
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    Kaerazu no Jin
    Sh Bīng Bā Zhn
    *
    Rank: C
    Type: Anti-Army Noble Phantasm
    Range: 50
    Maximum target: 500 person

    Formation of No Return.
    A formation laid by a certain famous strategist upon deciding his army’s retreat.
    The formation of huge rocks bewilders invaders and drives them to death.
    As a Noble Phantasm, it is a great thaumaturgy that compulsorily alters the location of the enemy into the Sh Bīng Bā Zhn.
    As long as they do not escape from within it, the enemies becomes targets of additional damage that accumulates every turn.
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    Suishi no Hyou
    Chu Shi Biao
    **
    Rank: EX
    Type: Anti-Army Noble Phantasm (his own army)
    Range: 0
    Maximum target: 100 person

    Table of Expedition.
    The report for the throne that Zhuge Kongming left behind for the still young emperor when he organized the army for the subjugation of the enemy nation. A text that composed ardently his readiness to completely devote himself for loyalty, it would then be praised as most famous amongst famed literary composition in later years. Its effect as a Noble Phantasm is unknown.
    (In FateGO it is fundemantally not utilized.)


    (*Sh Bīng Bā Zhn: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stone_Sentinel_Maze)
    (**Chu Shi Biao: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chu_Shi_Biao. Table as in chart table.)
    (My chinese friend said translating the name of this 2 NP is like trying to translate a japanese name; certainly possible translating individual kanji but you know, theyre names. Sh Bīng Bā Zhn is mostly known in the western as Stone Sentinel Maze, but even then its not 100% accurate. Meaning and context wise my chinese friend said that for Chu Shi Biao’s closest rendering is Memorial Upon War.)
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    Personage
    First pronoun: watashi
    Second pronoun: omae
    Third pronoun: kare/kanojo

    - Character
    His personality is that of Lord El-Melloi II.
    He is a slightly moody sort of magus with a meddlesome nature at the root, which ends up giving heavy influence to the people on his surroundings.
    He is particularly good at deciding courses of action; countless people have discovered their own ability thanks to him.
    Although, it can’t be denied that at the same time he himself possesses a complex in regards to his own powerlessness….

    - Motives and attitude towards Master
    He mostly looks after the Master basically as one of his student.
    El-Melloi II, who had taken in Kongming’s knowledge, have an overwhelmingly abundant experience on his hand compared to the many magi in this world. Consequently, the Master becomes his student from the beginning.

    - Dialogue example
    “Servant, Zhuge Kongming. ...Hm, you think I’m not him?
    Indeed I am not. I am El-Melloi II. Nevertheless, I do inherit his power. There is no problem.”
    “Things I am fond of? Let us see… Pupils with good perception, classroom filled with silence, and colleagues whose head are not clogged with tofu… I suppose.”
    “As you can see, I am in the middle of my game. We can speak, but don’t tamper with my hair. It’s distracting me from levelling up.”
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    Historical depiction

    The description below is not of Zhuge Kongming, but of the basis of his outer shell, Lord El-Melloi II.

    Lord El-Melloi II is the representative head of House El-Melloi, one of the twelve nobles that rule over and manage the Clock Tower that is the center of Magic Association. A lecturer of the department of Modern Magic, all of his pupils had managed to grow into excellent magi.
    It is said that should he ever recruit his pupils to his own faction, the Clock Tower’s influence chart would easily change; but he himself has no intention to do so.

    His insight in observing the true nature of a human has reached the point of being sublimated as a Servant’s Skill. No matter how much a famed magus may conceal his or her thaumaturgy, he possesses the terrifying ability to divulge it without any constraint.

    Normally, even if the outer shell is El-Melloi II, in the inside is still Zhuge Kongming and he should have conduct himself as Zhuge Kongming. However, upon the agreement of the goal of protecting the Human Order, there is no problem whichever between the two that holds the reign of the body; in the end of the discussion, Lord El-Melloi with his discernment of the modern world was decided to become a Servant.
    Although he himself is dissatisfied of being unable to do something with his own power, he do understand that he would not be able to do anything alone. He vows that he will protect the Human Order together with the other Servants.

    Furthermore, there is no change of his very power as a Servant or in his knowledge quantity upon his repeating spirit foundation’s ascension, which in the end returns his form to that of a young boy (roughly 19 years old).
    According to a certain ill-natured goddess, the situation of him fighting as the leading part being his form as a young boy is most fitting. Perhaps for Lord El-Melloi II himself, the unforgettable battle in which he shines the most is the one of this moment.
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    Character relationships
    Alexander
    A man of great talent, still unfinished in his growth. And yet, there is already enough of his charisma that it reminds me of his dignity back in the day. ...Well, in that case, I would like to see with my own eyes of what would happen that changes him.

    Iskander
    Things like the memory when he had been summoned are haziness, not even a dream for the current him. I know that much already. I know, and still.
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    Comment from Illustrator
    The idea of the third ascension being Waver felt like a good idea when it struck me, but upon the implementation I felt somewhat anxious if it would be a disappointing development for those who like El-Melloi II. I am really relieved that I don’t need to worry about that thanks to the option of being able to choose the ascension stage. (Takeuchi Takashi)

    (You know, it really is kinda a shame we didnt get to know how Zhuge actually is
    perhaps in the future)
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    Wonder if Takeuchi even knew Waver was supposed to be Zhuge possessed.

    -cries in kaerazunojin-


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    Thanks castor.
    His insight in observing the true nature of a human has reached the point of being sublimated as a Servant’s Skill. No matter how much a famed magus may conceal his or her thaumaturgy, he possesses the terrifying ability to divulge it without any constraint.
    That's a pretty useful skill.
    Furthermore, there is no change of his very power as a Servant or in his knowledge quantity upon his repeating spirit foundation’s ascension, which in the end returns his form to that of a young boy (roughly 19 years old).
    According to a certain ill-natured goddess, the situation of him fighting as the leading part being his form as a young boy is most fitting. Perhaps for Lord El-Melloi II himself, the unforgettable battle in which he shines the most is the one of this moment.
    I like this.

    Iskander
    Things like the memory when he had been summoned are haziness, not even a dream for the current him. I know that much already. I know, and still.
    That's so sad, they were such good friends. Certain Servants remember their former Master's just fine, but given the opportunity to actually talk to him again, Iskander can't remember Waver.
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    > Einzbern

    > Making smart decisions


    Pick one


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    Palingenesis just sounds like we're creating Sarah Palin.


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    By a little hot, did they mean desert hot or normal burning flame hot? This is important

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    Zhuge having zero lines for Chinese servants, but has lines for Iskandar and Alex cuz FZ reference. Stupid.

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    > Einzbern

    > Making smart decisions


    Pick one


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    Palingenesis just sounds like we're creating Sarah Palin.


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    >tfw you betray your ideals to get some


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    A chinese man instead of a british duh

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    pseudo-servants were a mistake

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    Still probably going to roll like mad for Muramasa though.
    I hope we can get the non-pseudo servant versions of some of these heroes soon.
    I think they're hinting at Galahad being important in the Lostbelt part so perhaps we can summon him later?
    I get the appeal but I admit I'd be annoyed if the only version of EMIYA I could summon was Kuro.

    I can see one justify it for gods (but then again Euryale and Stheno don't need to go pseudo) but for other heroes I find that it's harder to do so.

    I mean Muramasa is a rather famous figure, I honestly think he'd count as Heroic spirit if someone like Mata Hari could get in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gray View Post
    Still probably going to roll like mad for Muramasa though.
    I hope we can get the non-pseudo servant versions of some of these heroes soon.
    I think they're hinting at Galahad being important in the Lostbelt part so perhaps we can summon him later?
    I get the appeal but I admit I'd be annoyed if the only version of EMIYA I could summon was Kuro.

    I can see one justify it for gods (but then again Euryale and Stheno don't need to go pseudo) but for other heroes I find that it's harder to do so.

    I mean Muramasa is a rather famous figure, I honestly think he'd count as Heroic spirit if someone like Mata Hari could get in.
    Muramasa is fine because it's still his personality, Zhuge being literally just Waver is the problem.

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    How is that a problem?
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    > Einzbern

    > Making smart decisions


    Pick one


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    Palingenesis just sounds like we're creating Sarah Palin.


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    Really? Would you be happy if a historical/legendary character you like became a servant but it's actually just Kayneth using their powers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinetree View Post
    Muramasa is fine because it's still his personality, Zhuge being literally just Waver is the problem.
    What's your opinion on the others then?
    Parvarti, Ishtar, Ereshkigal and Jaguar Man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pinetree View Post
    Really? Would you be happy if a historical/legendary character you like became a servant but it's actually just Kayneth using their powers?
    But on the other hand, I'm thinking about the person whose body is being used as a vessel giving up complete control of themselves to that character.

    I totally get what your saying. I don't exactly like the idea of pseudo-servants because of what I said. I'd rather they just make a new character instead of sticking a Heroic Spirit or god into a familiar face.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laserman View Post
    How is that a problem?
    Imagine if you have Pseudo Servant Babbage, but it turned out to be 100% Liz.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GundamFSN View Post
    Imagine if you have Pseudo Servant Babbage, but it turned out to be 100% Liz.
    no because Liz doesn't like confined spaces y u make me imagine this

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gray View Post
    What's your opinion on the others then?
    Parvarti, Ishtar, Ereshkigal and Jaguar Man.
    They're all fine because their ratio is not 100 : 0. Plus their outfit shows them being influenced.

    Hell, I'd be fine if they just gave Waver chinese inspired outfit, but noooo Takeuchi is a hack.

    Wait

    Maybe Takeuchi is aiming for businessman Zhuge in his 2nd outfit

    Uuuuu
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