Originally Posted by FSF 5, Chapter 14: Gold and Lions IThough abandoned, forgotten, and scorned as out-of-date dolls, they continue to carry out their mission, unchanged from the time they were designed.
Machines do not lose their worth when a newer model appears.
Their worth (life) ends when humans can no longer bear that purity.
Also there's that Filipino one where a woman takes her head off and it flies around and her intestines are still attached
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Might be Malaysian or Indonesian instead of Filipino, I forget which
Jiangshi are both vampires and zombies, change my mind.
How do you define which?
The Jiang Shi is like a corpse that has Rigor Mortis set in so they move about from jumping everywhere, thats the zombie. They also suck blood(also sometimes qi) so thats the vampire
"Only in my company, will you not be a monster"
anywhere than here
I know what a jiang shi is. :-) What I asked was, how do you define what's a vampire and what's a zombie? For instance, there are legends in sub-saharan Africa of female sorcerers who drink the blood of infants through their feet; do they count as vampires, even though they're not undead?
Sure, why not.
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vampires drink blood while being undead.
zombies are all undead.
so all vampires are zombies
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though not all vampires are undead actually so the blood drinking is more important there
"Only in my company, will you not be a monster"
anywhere than here
It's interesting how the living dead and the bloodsucker tropes exist across so many cultures with variations, reflecting fears of death and disease. Vampire folklore in particular flourished with tuberculosis epidemics in Eastern Europe, for example.
I'd say the closest anime depiction of traditional Eastern European vampires is actually JoJo zombies. That, and what I was trying to say earlier is that while all of the creatures you all have mentioned are bloodsuckers and/or undead who fall under the category of vampiric beings, actual "vampires" should only refer to those undead corpses specifically referred to as such in Eastern European folklore and the rest should be called by their own names.
A vampire is (the anglicized name of) a critter from Slavic mythology. If it's not based on Slavic mythological vampires or at least called a vampire or some cognate/corruption thereof, then it's not one.
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The fear of the undead is common - maybe universal, I don't know. But to throw all blood-drinking or soul-sucking mythical beings into a category labeled "vampires" and then declare that "vampires are a universal concept" makes about as much sense as putting all giant mythological reptiles into a category you call "dragons" and then saying that everyone believed in dragons.
Sorry to be a stick in the mud, this is just one of those things that bugs me.
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Give up, fantasy cultural appropriation knows no boundaries and your flying lizard is a dragon now
Though maybe that's not the best example, seeing how many nonsense categorisations fantasy dragons seem to be falling under: Dragons, Drakes, Wyrms...
shit BL says
Once and always and nevermore.
That's basically what I was trying to say, but better. We should probably just characterize them as blood-suckers, and then put the undead ones in an undead subcategory.
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Blame Tolkien for starting that trend, though he DID base it off of actual mythology and the like.
My language (as well as JP and CN) all used 吸血鬼 (literally blood-sucking demon) to call any blood-sucking mythical shit in general, and "vampire" is the shortest English word with closest resemblance to what the term is so it was chosen to be an acceptable English translation. If you ask me between "blood-sucking demon" and "vampire" which I'm gonna choose to translate kyuuketsuki into that won't make majority of the plebs on the planet think of me as a retard who did not use the "obvious term", I will go with vampire. After all being opposed by a few Western language experts here is better than the rest of the word.