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    Quote Originally Posted by warellis View Post
    What are Carmilla's powers in the book anyways? Was she just a vampiric lesbian or did she display feats of strength or speed or what?
    Turned into a cat I think and when they found her coffin was filled with blood
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    Quote Originally Posted by You View Post
    Turned into a cat I think and when they found her coffin was filled with blood
    Not a normal cat, though. She also displayed exceptional physical abilities - not superhuman, per se, but exceptional.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LegalLoliLover View Post
    No, but they should be able to turn into giant bat things, instead.
    Vlad can do that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LegalLoliLover View Post
    No, but they should be able to turn into giant bat things, instead.
    Nah, that's SUPER modern, like only to the 19th century. Early folkloric vampires were basically zombies that could suck blood, and they might have also been werewolves.

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    Also there's that Filipino one where a woman takes her head off and it flies around and her intestines are still attached

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    Might be Malaysian or Indonesian instead of Filipino, I forget which
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    Quote Originally Posted by asterism42 View Post
    Also there's that Filipino one where a woman takes her head off and it flies around and her intestines are still attached
    Technically not a true "vampire". Those come from Eastern and Southeastern Europe. Probably in the supercategory of vampires/bloodsuckers though.

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    Jiangshi are both vampires and zombies, change my mind.

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    How do you define which?

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    The Jiang Shi is like a corpse that has Rigor Mortis set in so they move about from jumping everywhere, thats the zombie. They also suck blood(also sometimes qi) so thats the vampire
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    I know what a jiang shi is. :-) What I asked was, how do you define what's a vampire and what's a zombie? For instance, there are legends in sub-saharan Africa of female sorcerers who drink the blood of infants through their feet; do they count as vampires, even though they're not undead?

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    Sure, why not.
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    vampires drink blood while being undead.

    zombies are all undead.

    so all vampires are zombies

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    though not all vampires are undead actually so the blood drinking is more important there
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    It's interesting how the living dead and the bloodsucker tropes exist across so many cultures with variations, reflecting fears of death and disease. Vampire folklore in particular flourished with tuberculosis epidemics in Eastern Europe, for example.

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    I'd say the closest anime depiction of traditional Eastern European vampires is actually JoJo zombies. That, and what I was trying to say earlier is that while all of the creatures you all have mentioned are bloodsuckers and/or undead who fall under the category of vampiric beings, actual "vampires" should only refer to those undead corpses specifically referred to as such in Eastern European folklore and the rest should be called by their own names.

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    There are as many types of vampire as there are disease; some are virulent and deadly, and some just make you walk funny and avoid fruit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by You View Post
    Turned into a cat I think and when they found her coffin was filled with blood

    See, she really is a-
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    A vampire is (the anglicized name of) a critter from Slavic mythology. If it's not based on Slavic mythological vampires or at least called a vampire or some cognate/corruption thereof, then it's not one.

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    The fear of the undead is common - maybe universal, I don't know. But to throw all blood-drinking or soul-sucking mythical beings into a category labeled "vampires" and then declare that "vampires are a universal concept" makes about as much sense as putting all giant mythological reptiles into a category you call "dragons" and then saying that everyone believed in dragons.

    Sorry to be a stick in the mud, this is just one of those things that bugs me.
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    Give up, fantasy cultural appropriation knows no boundaries and your flying lizard is a dragon now

    Though maybe that's not the best example, seeing how many nonsense categorisations fantasy dragons seem to be falling under: Dragons, Drakes, Wyrms...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Walnut Sparks View Post
    A vampire is (the anglicized name of) a critter from Slavic mythology. If it's not based on Slavic mythological vampires or at least called a vampire or some cognate/corruption thereof, then it's not one.

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    The fear of the undead is common - maybe universal, I don't know. But to throw all blood-drinking or soul-sucking mythical beings into a category labeled "vampires" and then declare that "vampires are a universal concept" makes about as much sense as putting all giant mythological reptiles into a category you call "dragons" and then saying that everyone believed in dragons.

    Sorry to be a stick in the mud, this is just one of those things that bugs me.
    That's basically what I was trying to say, but better. We should probably just characterize them as blood-suckers, and then put the undead ones in an undead subcategory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deathhappens View Post
    Give up, fantasy cultural appropriation knows no boundaries and your flying lizard is a dragon now

    Though maybe that's not the best example, seeing how many nonsense categorisations fantasy dragons seem to be falling under: Dragons, Drakes, Wyrms...
    Blame Tolkien for starting that trend, though he DID base it off of actual mythology and the like.

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    My language (as well as JP and CN) all used 吸血鬼 (literally blood-sucking demon) to call any blood-sucking mythical shit in general, and "vampire" is the shortest English word with closest resemblance to what the term is so it was chosen to be an acceptable English translation. If you ask me between "blood-sucking demon" and "vampire" which I'm gonna choose to translate kyuuketsuki into that won't make majority of the plebs on the planet think of me as a retard who did not use the "obvious term", I will go with vampire. After all being opposed by a few Western language experts here is better than the rest of the word.

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